http://kotaku.com/thousands-of-overwatch-players-have-already-been-banned-1780109893
Cheat once? Banned. Buy an new account/game? Ban transfers. Cheat in China? Your username is also released.
Your move, Riot.
Sona Ping7 votes"Linking Kotaku" Can Blizzard or Riot ban you for this as well?
Either is fine.
Whiteeye Avelyn1 votesThis brought a smile to my face.
Wolfess6 votesoverwatch is pay to play League is completely free
since people pay to play overwatch, blizz takes this VERY seriously since it has to ensure fairness for all the people playing the game that are playing fairly without cheating. there are obvious ways to get around that blizz permaban, but the drawback is that it CAN/WILL cost you to get around it which most will prefer to avoid and just skip overwatch altogether.
Riot is free to play with their income being from players purchasing RP. they DO try to keep cheaters and rule breakers out, though being that they rely mostly on their shop for income, they allow offenders to return since it can be potential income for them hoping that the offender learned their lesson and stop being a jerk.
I don't think it's fair to compare both just because the games are a similar genre. Blizz has been around for a good number of years and have solid foundation and income from multiple games. they can afford to permaban people like that, whereas riot has been around for what 6-7 years now which is still relatively fresh and only has one game out so far from where their income flows in and it's from a completely free to play game at that where the majority of their cash-currency is used to buy cosmetic items that have no actual gameplay effects and are only visual (with the potential exception being rune pages and runes, however those can still be acquired using in-game currency, IP, by everyone for free)
Troll Armada1 votesThey don't HAVE to do anything, they could just do like Treyarch and Activision and use the cheaters as part of their product lifecycle, to push players into their new version.
Wolfess3 votes[{quoted}](name=Troll Armada,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nlsHkF3A,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2016-06-03T22:29:39.538+0000)
They don't HAVE to do anything, they could just do like Treyarch and Activision and use the cheaters as part of their product lifecycle, to push players into their new version.
uh.... not do anything to prevent cheaters from ruining their game that just came out of beta and is on sale? I'm pretty sure they WANT to sell copies to make money as opposed to let cheaters deter people from buying it. That plus they might attempt to take overwatch into the esports scene like starcraft, except moba genre and if they do, having cheaters in their game is NOT a good place to start their publicity. Though the esports scene is just a big IF at the moment.
Troll Armada1 votesRiot ignores cheaters all the time, and doesn't seem to affect their e-sports scene. Try again.
Time to stop drinking the kool-aid http://www.banklawyersblog.com/.a/6a00d8341c652b53ef0133edb7714d970b-800wi
If a company decides to stop cheating then it's just as much of a moral/integrity issue as anything else.
The point is, they can choose to completely ignore the issue and act like nothing is happening, just like Riot does now, and they will be equally successful.
M Dragon141 votesWhat cheating does riot ignore exactly?
KVbqbFsC8e5 votesHow often do you actually see cheaters in League?
MaQUiNitA2 votesAparently I was one since I got a permanent suspension 1 month ago. The patetic thing is that I didn't know about "scripts" till I started a Ticket and reading this forums. It sucks
Troll for Trump5 votesRiot has a zero tolerance policy on cheating too ( I believe, they just have to detect it. Their system for cheat detection is probably worse than Blizz's. I know their bot detection is definitely bad).
On toxicity, I'd say Riot is a bit more lenient, which can be good or bad; Let some small bits of toxicity slip, or punish the innocent?
Vistha Kai4 votesTo make it funnier an average online game in China requires you to login with... your irl ID.
Troll Armada3 votesBye Felicia!
lol. that's hilarious.
fortunately for cheaters Riot doesn't have the inclination nor the balls to do this.
you are more likely to be asked to become a riot employee than you are to be banned for cheating.
IcyPepper7 votesConsidering the occasional 3rd party app banwaves, I do doubt that. Not to mention the people who post here whining about their perma only for a Rioter to mention how they shared accounts and whatever else...
Riot ain't perfect, but claiming they don't ban for cheating is a bit of a hyperbole.
Troll Armada2 votesOne has only to experience Riot Support incompetence once to know that this is crap. You can only use that 'not perfect' excuse so many time s...
IcyPepper7 votes"Not perfect" isn't an excuse, it's just that Riot is made of human beings. Not even the automated systems are perfect.
No system, especially ones that involve humans, is perfect. Except the Playstation 4.
MaQUiNitA2 votesThey shouldnt perma ban or suspend permantly someone unless they are absolutly certain. In my case I know from fact they are wrong. I will be here claiming for years for my account.
ModAcademy Kayn3 votesWanna show your chat logs/reason for being banned?
MaQUiNitA1 votesI wasn't banned for that. So they say.
Aparently I used scripts, or exploits, hacks or whatever nonsense they call a 3º party software.
Which I do know about them, now.
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesThat's an interestingly specific way to say that. "Which I do know about them, now."
That seems to imply that you didn't know that Scripts were not allowed.
MaQUiNitA1 votesunless you are mocking me, that's an interesting way of missinterpretation. I wasn't worry about them because I didn't know they existed, or I even didn't want to know. Since the moment you find out, game loses the joy.
What I meant, by saying now I do, is that I have being reading about them since I got banned. Now I do get why RIot is so hursh and I agree with them. Except when they have a glitch in the detection or make a mistake. In my case, support tells me I exploited something. (That is absolutly false)
If you use your brain, if I were lying with all that. You can trust me, I wouldnt risk this account, not at all. You can always make a new one to try dangerous stuff. At least, that what I would do. Simple logic.
dapositiveviking2 votesI've sent in two tickets and had them both handled extremely proficiently and professionally. your move
Soldier of 4Jhin2 votesYour the kind of person that I dont like, a person dedicates their time in a game to be good at it whether it be call of duty or league I hate to see some kid winning just because he is cheating its ruins the game for the other player** (for me personally takes the fun/satisfaction away)** people that get a good rank in a game full of cheaters dont get recognized for their skill because they're dwarfed in score or rank by cheaters.
Troll Armada1 votesExcuse Me? You seem to be the typical kind of person who jumps to uninformed conclusions based on little to no evidence whatsoever.
Where do you get off implying that I have in any way condoned or taken part in the use of cheats? Nowhere.
I wish that League was free from cheaters and others, however, I unlike you, live in a little place, you may have heard of it before, called, Reality.
Soldier of 4Jhin1 votesWhat is reality but a game called life no one truly knows if this is "real" or not I just happen to go with the flow
but besides the point you saying riot doesnt do anything when they actually do but they have to ban cheaters in waves usually so they dont know how it was detected and if it is blatantly obvious you can send an actual ticket to have it investigated if you feel so if your not lazy, also this
"They don't HAVE to do anything, they could just do like Treyarch and Activision and use the cheaters as part of their product lifecycle, to push players into their new version."
you made it seem as you say they dont need to get rid of cheaters if I misunderstood then well okay thats my fault, but saying riot shouldn't do anything is really bad idea because a lot of people like to spend time on a game and have it last a long time instead of getting a new game or dealing withcheaters every year it only hurts the player base instead of letting it grow.
Troll Armada1 votesI haven't passed any normative judgement upon Riot Games. I am simply pointing out that companies like people can choose the dark side vs the light side.
Soldier of 4Jhin1 votesTry to keep it simple and/or explain a bit more
saying riot doesnt have to do it is not a good statement vs. riot should do (ban hackers/cheaters) but they prob wont because (call of duty hacking problems how it pushes people to the next game)
Demacry2 votesThe only difference being that Bnet has had anti-cheating software that Blizz has been working on for almost 30 years. Riot has had Lyte's science project direction and anti-toxicity software for 3 years and not a day goes by that someone isn't questionably punished. Riot doesn't have to security of being one of greatest modern publishers to just start cutting off large portions of their player base. They have 1 lightning-in-a-bottle game and years poor customer relations.
Telephone Booth2 votesWell do people go on the overwatch forums questioning their bans or do they all feel it was justified?
Void Nargacuga2 votesDamn! Blizzard is putting it's foot down!
stealthfox942 votesYeah I find it funny how Tyler 1 said he would stream Overwatch. Wonder how fast he'll get banned.
shyv2 voteshe's already perma muted i believe
stealthfox942 voteshe's already perma muted i believe
good lord.............
EvilDustMan2 votesThey already have feeder buster and cheater detectors, I don't understand what you are trying to get at.
Pandemic Punch2 votesThis is odd as most threads I see around here are complaining about Riot being too strict.
Cenobite Azaziel1 votesrito: " Cheats what cheats? There are nothings like scripters and botters in this game. It is all your imagination!"
Sythriel Draken1 votesthe difference is, blizzard actually acts on it immediately and rewards those players who were the victim of these cheats. They don't wait and do it in waves, they do it the moment that the cheat is found and that you are using it. Riot just shrugs and says "oh well" when a cheater is caught and punished. Blizzard rewards lost matches or compensation for it, and I know because I was rewarded in heroes of the storm because a cheater who had impacted my high ranked game was caught and punished.. it was a little bit of gold, but it was enough that I didn't feel like they didn't care.
Right now, even if they go through a ban wave, riot doesn't even reward those that reported even with ip, their free currency.. I mean, they have a match log for a god damn reason and yet, they don't feel the need to go back and look at the initial report and then reward those players from that report on for what that person's action had caused..
The moment riot pulls their head outta their asses and implements a system for this is the day I will start spending money again. They can't focus on just punishing "naughty chat" and "unsportsmanlike conduct (a joke of a report)" and almost ignore cheating, and intentional feeding like they are doing now.. hell, they dodge those types of questions about cheaters and feeders in all these Q and A's they've been having.. but hey, we know they've put their money grabbing chroma skins on hold! (like anyone really cared)
TheRealBaz1 votesmeanwhile if you cheat here riot will let you play again and for free
Soldier of 4Jhin1 voteswell you do have to pay 60$ for a copy of overwatch and league well you have to make a new account and hand level it otherwise you get banned again
Dukues1 voteshaha damn and I thought the Overwatch threads were people just bitching about hackers. Looks like people have actually been hacking. Good screw hackers! Fun game, I still enjoy league more (since no ranked in Overwatch but is DQ really considered ranked?). I guess once competitive play is released in Overwatch in July I might be making a permanent switch. Only time will tell.
Dominick Destine1 votesThat's a great advertisement for Overwatch.
I'm tempted to do the switch... but I am holding out some hope that Riot will reflect on their horrendous error..... I am really hoping they do. Like REALLY hoping they do.... and bring back solo queue, like they should have done from the beginning.
Firu1 votesYou do realize Riot also bans people who cheat.....?
EpsteinDidntKHS1 votesHow to stop toxicity, and make trolling easier to detect. If you say anything toxic, you get teleported under the enemies fountain turret 10 times (they don't get gold, you respawn instantly), so it ruins your KDA so you shut the hell up about how your ADC is 1/3, cause now your 2/12
71883083DEL11 votesThey've always been like that.. Have you ever played WoW?
Ada Wong1 votes[{quoted}](name=Grand Eleven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nlsHkF3A,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-03T03:39:40.319+0000)
http://kotaku.com/thousands-of-overwatch-players-have-already-been-banned-1780109893
Cheat once? Banned. Buy an new account/game? Ban transfers. Cheat in China? Your username is also released.
Your move, Riot.
But there is a huge difference between Blizzards MMO Moba vs League..
1.) Toxic players get banned by Blizzard, or Restricted from chat in both MOBA Fast if reported.
. However you can Quit The Game without any penalty if players are going to be retards, or idiots, in League OF Legends you can't do this, therefore making League OF legends more toxic.
2.) Blizzard Bans Hackers Fast which is great compared to "Black Desert" with rampant client side hackers ruining the game and a dev team who does nothing about it.
3.) The difference that makes League Toxic...
. You are forced to play with stupid players, you can't leave when you feel someone is a retard it creates a negative experience. . Both Games Blizzard & LOL Don't have any team play unless you Queue with 5 friends.
The only difference is you aren't forced to stay in the game when playing Hots, or Overwatch you can drop out any time really no penalty which keeps toxicity at a minimum.
Example of what I am talking about I just did like first game in a week or two and I had a player pinging the map like an idiot in my game really screwing me over early I just had to mute everyone, and turn off my sound to even focus on the game it was awful. (one thing over-watch doesn't have.)
