"Tribunal Down for Maintenance"

fisox··16 votes·2,107 views

Whats up with this thing and why? I really want to join the Tribunal and help the community somehow It says "We are busy making changes to the Tribunal and expect to have things up and running again in the future. Thank you for your patience!" for how long? Is this this even working and when is the last time it worked?

Edit 1: The last time they said something about the Tribunal was 1 year ago A WHOLE YEAR. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/new-player-reform-system-heads-testing

Not sure what changes but I feel like they forgot about it

Edit 2: I removed my comments because they doesn't have any impact on the topic.

                                                                     **Riot's Answer**

Hello Summoner,

I’m sorry, but I can’t provide any information beyond the announcement of any new or upcoming content or >promotions. Anything we haven’t officially released is still subject to change, so we try not to discuss too many >details.

At the moment we have the Instant Feedback System in place. Generally speaking, players who are toxic in game >will receive a punishment shortly after their game has ended, provided a report has been made. The punishment can >be a chat restriction, temporary suspension or a permanent suspension, depending on the severity of the negative >behavior displayed in game.

More offenses on an account means a stronger punishment:

First offense: 10 games chat restriction Second offense: 25 games chat restriction Third offense: 2 week ban Fourth offense: Permanent ban Players are now able to review their reform cards within the client via pop up notification. If a player leaves the >notification for any reason, they can review it again by logging back into the client. Keep in mind that these chat logs >will only show the punished player’s chat, as their purpose is to help that player reform directly.

Responding to toxic behavior with negativity is not something we tolerate, so if other players were also being >negative in the game, they will get their own punishments and reform cards to review.

I hope this general information was helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions!

Kasiim Player Support Specialist Riot Games "Ah, the sweet tones of misery."

36 Comments

Zarvanis8 votes

It's probably in the same ditch as Aatrox's rework.

GULAG 4 U3 votes

^^^ UPVOTE GUN

Fondling Gems6 votes

It will come back soon never. It has been down for longer than I have been playing, and I started at the end of season 4. Don't expect it to come back.

dragon1xx2 votes

Soon TM

Big Tiddy Fox GF1 votes

So that's why there's less ban on unlegit players, and more bans on legit players that did nothing?

Eh.

That's only a theory.

Kei1434 votes

the tribunal has currently been replaced with a automated instant feedback system.

The tribunal had a problem at that time where there were way too much back log and people weren't getting punished fast enough.

The automated system has a much lower falsely punished rate and punishes people within 5 mins of their game ending, but keep in mind you won't receive a notification unless it was the game that they got punished (not when it was building towards their case).

Riot did mention that they have an idea for tribunal 2.0 and it'll compliment the current system plus interact with the honors system. However that is far down the road in terms of priority to be implemented.

General Esdeath 1 votes

It also didn't ban the guy giving death threats to all of us on his team and calling us "%%%got %%%%%% %%%%s" every few seconds.

General Esdeath 1 votes

oh shit Riot's on to me.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

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It also didn't ban the guy giving death threats to all of us on his team and calling us "%%%got %%%%%% %%%%s" every few seconds.

Did you report them?

General Esdeath 1 votes

Yep, told me they got punished but I check their history and they're still playing. Someone told me it's prob a 15 game chat ban >_>

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

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Yep, told me they got punished but I check their history and they're still playing. Someone told me it's prob a 15 game chat ban >_>

Ok, they got punished and now they're reformed? If it happens again maybe their punishment will be less light? I don't know. Get off their case?

General Esdeath 1 votes

Dude he was threatening people and asking for their address. You wanna see a video I recorded of him? Guy was nuts. I don't think you CAN reform that. Even if you could, a chat ban is light. Not even a 2 week ban?

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

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Dude he was threatening people and asking for their address. You wanna see a video I recorded of him? Guy was nuts. I don't think you CAN reform that. Even if you could, a chat ban is light. Not even a 2 week ban?

I don't know man. It's not my call. It sounds like he got punished. You got what you wanted. You want way more? It sounds like he's not being punished anymore so now the problem is solved. Yeah he said some bad stuff, but he got punished and now he's not saying it anymore I assume.

Maybe he got off light but if the problem is forever gone then that's good for everyone yeah? I don't know.

General Esdeath 1 votes

I don't know, bans/suspensions take time from what I heard. They're set out in waves. We have to wait.

Kingnewgameplus3 votes

Soon™

Rakvir2 votes

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Soon™

Sorry; pretty sure Blizzard already owns that trademark.

But, in all seriousness, I agree we aren't going to get it back within any reasonable time period. I think they are just hoping people either forget about it or just give up. It's not as though they haven't known how well-received it was. Sure, some people voted specifically to side with clearly passive-aggressive players to spite the system or target more well-known figures to "take them down a peg" but it was generally a good system.

Meta Phyton3 votes

Well, if you want to help out, why not join the efforts of already many players who are taking on the duty to set a positive, untiltable role model for others in League of Legends? In many cases, that's just as valuable.

fisox1 votes

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Gary B Enkelis1 votes

[{quoted}](name=NiXoul SiNiCi,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mxwn0quy,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-08-15T17:52:49.559+0000)

Fiddle supp in ranked and bot goes 0/14 -> my reaction in chat :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) , My reaction in real life -> fukinghellillfindyouandillkillyoupiceofriotloveforaatroxihopeyougetbanned. some people just deserve to be banned.

nothing can make me feel better helping ban some toxic people or trolls after a bad game.

I don't see the problem here. Fiddle support is fine and sometimes going 0/14 happens. By the way, supports don't take kills so putting the 0 there means little, unless you're leading with deaths? 0 deaths / 14 assists? I say honor the support. Kidding.

fisox1 votes

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Gary B Enkelis1 votes

[{quoted}](name=NiXoul SiNiCi,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mxwn0quy,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-15T18:52:53.481+0000)

Maybe he is... but he needs to know that this pick may tilt 4 people in his team... even if we had only one tank because of him but that's not the idea... I'M DEAD INSIDE oh and you had too see the chat between our ADC and SUPP.

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Bro you never know what's going to tilt one person let alone 4 people.

Kei1432 votes

fiddle support is a very niche pick and can work in specific scenarios.

keep an open mind, sometimes it works.

Meta Phyton1 votes

You are so not an example of a good positive role model if you're doing that. You'd just be hiding your feelings behind a reeaaally transparent mask if you wrote that.

I'm talking about .. developing decent thoughts on the inside first, and not having to make that kind of dumb fake grin that is only funny on Youtube but is exhausting to everyone else, even the person who's doing it.

Also considering that, I really don't want you to have any kind of power to make decisions that impact others' lives. You're not stable for the job. You'd make a scary arbiter and I think you already know that you'd very have little patience for people who "go Fiddle sup and feed".

Awkward Couch2 votes

Wondering if you can speak towards tribunal 2.0 ? Sneak peak pretty pleasseeee? - Just curious what are the upcoming behavior features.

We are talking about next steps. To set expectations, it won't be soon, because there is a lot of work there. One thing we would like to do is let you honor sportsmanlike behavior and not just punish negative behavior.

This is the last I've heard about the new Tribunal. Source

Hacked by mom2 votes

This game is so horrible with feedbacks. I'm constantly getting afkers and abusers during ranked games. Even IF I REPORT, it looks like there is nothing being done. I always see them playing next game without any problems. This RIOT's system is so awful.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hacked by mom,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mxwn0quy,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-08-15T22:44:01.365+0000)

This game is so horrible with feedbacks. I'm constantly getting afkers and abusers during ranked games. Even IF I REPORT, it looks like there is nothing being done. I always see them playing next game without any problems. This RIOT's system is so awful.

Today I got a message about a player I reported a day or two ago. I haven't seen that player since I reported them, but the system is doing something. Something is better than nothing? And it seems like it's a positive something too.

I don't care if that player is still playing. I care that their behavior has changed.

vampirekid131 votes

last seen reports of "Tribunal" state that riot walked Tribunal behind a shed.

a single shotgun shot was heard.

no one knows what happened behind that shed.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

Have some patience and wait. :)

xomp1 votes

It was often abused. Those who want it back are merely looking to enact what they call "justice" on others (aka. rage vote punish someone cuz they had a bad game). It's giving the community the ability to be passive-aggressive anonymously.

#SoLongTribunalYouWereAwfulAnyways

ARequestOfDeath1 votes

it had multiple people and riot checked your account to see if you had any previous punishments

Jari1 votes

I kind of want to back because I currently don't feel like my report leads anywhere, and would rather see it happen before my own eyes that someone either got punished, or spared.

By the way, 100% accuracy rate with both punishments and sparing.

MonkeyMadness1 votes

Lyte (ie the single most corrupt, manipulative, and purely self-righteous asshole that Riot ever hired) announced a long time ago that the tribunal was never coming back. Not sure why they have that notice about it being in maintenance, but it's gone for good. The actual single best method to correct toxicity was removed in favor of a bot that has proven it's ineffectiveness time and again. The only actual downside to the Tribunal was that it took too long to dole out punishments, and this caused players to potentially be banned upwards of a month after the offence in question.

However, given that he recently "resigned" we may yet see a resurgence of the tribunal. I sincerely hope so, it was a much more fair system that allowed players to judge each other based entirely on the context of the situation, instead of a banbot highlighting key words in a chat log in the complete absence of other players' chat.

Eternal Colossus1 votes

All you need to know is that RIOT is lying, the Tribunal is not down for maintenance (as it has been for over 3 years). It's gone. In it's place is a really flawed automated computer system, which will become the new Tribunal soon. Aka, it's gone, period.

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