Is it wrong to spam jokes and laughs in league..?

Doofs··2 votes·727 views

I'm at a weird position right now, I've made countless friends in League for spamming laughs and taunts, Singed and Zed are great examples. Now I recently just got reported by my whole team for spamming the "don't worry- don- don't worry.." on Heimer in aram. Was I wrong..? Doing stuff like this is why I play League, is this a sign to quit..?

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DJColdCutz3 votes

Well, rito has made it clear that saying "gg ez" is punishable because it is a form of taunting. So it follows that all of the following are also punishable:

  1. Using a champion's Taunt emote even once at any point in the game.
  2. Using a champion's Taunt skill even once at any point in the game.
  3. Spamming a champion's Laugh, Dance, Joke, Mastery, Emblem, Backing animation in a taunting manner (decided by the offended party, just like offensive language/offensive summoner's names are)
Doofs2 votes

Thanks you really cheered me up there. :>

Blazing Tenshi2 votes

Rito only looks at chat logs when banning and not in game actions, so even if spamming taunt was a reportable offense they wouldn't care. So go spam taunt and laugh and intentionally feed until your hearts content as you will never be punished for it and then after the game report everyone yelling at you to stop for verbal abuse.

DJColdCutz2 votes

While I agree getting banned for intentionally feeding is a much harder accomplishment than is getting banned for toxic language, there is still a report option for "Intentionally Feeding" so I wouldn't risk it while trolling.

I do agree that trolling your team and reporting them for verbally abusing you for it is fun to do though. The only time I have ever gotten the "Successfully punished a player you reported" notification came after I troll picked a double jungle. Never said a word, just took the rage from the team.. We ended up winning, and they even said "wow, the least toxic person on our team was the troll double jungler, he didn't even say anything" and honored me.... Then I reported them all and someone got banned haha...

Jubbinaut2 votes

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Well, rito has made it clear that saying "gg ez" is punishable because it is a form of taunting.

Care to cite this? I've seen them indicate that it's considered negative, but I've also seen them state (in the same post, no less) that no one's ever been punished for it.

I've you've got evidence to demonstrate otherwise, I'd love to see it.

DJColdCutz1 votes

No I don't because I don't save threads. But if it's considered negative, it's punishable. Just because someone hasn't been punished for it doesn't mean it isn't punishable. They've probably never had to punish someone solely for it because the punished player used other toxic dialogue. You've already provided a link that shows emote spamming of all things is punishable, so I don't have any doubt someone could get punished for saying something aggressive like "gg ez."

Jubbinaut2 votes

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No I don't because I don't save threads. But if it's considered negative, it's punishable. Just because someone hasn't been punished for it doesn't mean it isn't punishable. They've probably never had to punish someone solely for it because the punished player used other toxic dialogue. You've already provided a link that shows emote spamming of all things is punishable, so I don't have any doubt someone could get punished for saying something aggressive like "gg ez."

My point is this: Riot has never stated that it's punishable - in fact, Lyte's gone out of his way to indicate that a) it's never been punished, and b) they've explicitly not said that it's possible to be banned for it.

Given that, I think it's rather misleading to claim that they have "made it clear" that it's punishable. Especially when the only statements I can find are things like this:

I've never seen a player banned for just saying "BG" or "GGEZ."

We're not saying that's even possible, just that those phrases are considered more negative than positive. GGEZ is clearly negative almost all the time, but the system agrees "BG" varies in context but can be misunderstood.

DJColdCutz1 votes

I'm not sure how you can by definition explicitly not say something.. That comment is just me being difficult though, sorry.

More to the point, having read through the post you linked earlier where Riddler sums up the Code with the golden rule of "Don't be a jerk," it seems clear to me that if something is "clearly negative almost all the time" it's breaking the golden rule. It's my personal opinion that emote spamming is a much grayer area of jerkiness than saying GGEZ, so if you can be punished for emote spamming, it makes sense, explicitly stated or not, that you can be punished for saying GGEZ.

Maybe I should have chosen my opening words better. To be honest, I didn't expect anyone to take my post seriously given my second point was "Using a Taunt ability is punishable........" OP found it amusing, and that was all I was trying to be.

Jubbinaut1 votes

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I'm not sure how you can by definition explicitly not say something.. That comment is just me being difficult though, sorry.

By the definition of explicit that read as follows: "leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal."

In other words, stating that you are not stating something is explicitly not stating that thing.

Though, that's just me being pedantic. :P

More to the point, having read through the post you linked earlier where Riddler sums up the Code with the golden rule of "Don't be a jerk," it seems clear to me that if something is "clearly negative almost all the time" it's breaking the golden rule. It's my personal opinion that emote spamming is a much grayer area of jerkiness than saying GGEZ, so if you can be punished for emote spamming, it makes sense, explicitly stated or not, that you can be punished for saying GGEZ.

Sure. And, like I said, it's certainly considered negative. But the question is, is it negative enough by itself to break the "punishable" threshold?

Lyte says it hasn't been so far.

Maybe I should have chosen my opening words better. To be honest, I didn't expect anyone to take my post seriously given my second point was "Using a Taunt ability is punishable........" OP found it amusing, and that was all I was trying to be.

I didn't take anything else seriously, by any means. And honestly, my posts haven't really been for your benefit, but rather for that of others who may go through the conversation. My intent was merely to provide clarification and prevent any misunderstandings due to a misleading statement.

Sorry if it seemed otherwise.

Akenero3 votes

Here's the secret to becoming plat: •Main taric •Set his joke on right click •Tell your adc you cant stop doing so because your little brother effed with your league •Let them know the only way to make it stop is by winning faster

Jubbinaut3 votes

Yes. Spamming emotes and pings is punishable. From WookieeCookie (posted regarding a similar case):

I've seen this case emote spamming case before. And he fails the test. He was being a jerk.

You can see in his matches that other players ask him to stop. They even do so nicely at some points. But this player doesn't care. He doesn't care because he's being a jerk.

Is he using a feature of our game which has many legitimate purposes? Of course!

But is he abusing this legitimate feature to be a jerk? Yes. He is literally spamming the same phrase throughout the entire duration of the game.

Could other players fiddle with their sound settings to disable this? Sure.

Should we expect other players to adjust their player experience because a jerk is harassing them?

No. Never.

ModUlanopo3 votes

It's worth pointing out that the threshold is generally when people ask the person to stop.

Jubbinaut2 votes

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It's worth pointing out that the threshold is generally when people ask the person to stop.

Oh, absolutely. I figured, though, that since it was referenced in the quote, I didn't need to add it.

Korillo2 votes

It's pretty annoying and you can't mute champion emotes. If they ask you to stop and you continue anyway then yes it's wrong.

runedara1 votes

If they ask you to stop maybe but I would just mute you personally.

Wolfenstin1 votes

I absolutely despise Heimer spam.

Not only because it's obnoxious, but also glitched. It can't be muted via muting the player, same with Nasus and a few others. It's stupid annoying and I usually tell people to knock it off. They usually don't listen to me and/or get fussy with me for finding it annoying. I didn't even know it was reportable.

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