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Why are people so toxic?

Toxicate13··21 votes·28,907 views

Hey guys, I just wanted to take a moment to rant about people.

So I am currently Silver I, but I was placed in Bronze IV this season (first placement matches ever, don't judge me please). Anyways, it seems like every game I do, people are just complete assholes. When one thing goes wrong, everyone points fingers at one person. I've seen it a lot in 4 man premade queues when I'm playing Solo Queue. It's so annoying. If I do one thing wrong, my entire team flames and reports me, even if I don't say anything. And keep in mind, this has been happening to me since BRONZE FUCKING 4. To anyone who is reading this that is higher elo, is it the same in Gold+? Is it worth it for me to keep climbing if all I'm going to do is encounter these toxic, feeding, trolls? Please let me know, because I'm debating whether or not I want to waste time climbing when I'm just going to be flamed. And by the way, Riot's report system isn't doing shit for me. I have been called many really bad things, whether it be general pejoratives or racial slurs. And this happens all game. I don't mute people because I need to actually communicate with my team, but ignoring it isn't very easy when they're spamming shit in chat because they macroed it to their keyboard. Anyways, thanks for reading my wall of text.

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SexyBabyJesusZ5 votes

because a good amount of players are used to companies not caring about toxicity in chats, so when riot wont allow that its really hard for them to not be toxic

just pick your battles, words are words and you can choose what words mean to you, just ignore them or mute them.

dYW7w6mjp13 votes

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because a good amount of players are used to companies not caring about toxicity in chats, so when riot wont allow that its really hard for them to not be toxic

just pick your battles, words are words and you can choose what words mean to you, just ignore them or mute them.

Wrong about the first part, Blizzard is anti-toxic, and most games try to influence players not to harass others. Where League is different is how they punish you. Blizzard may give you temp bans from 1 day to 1 year, etc. But Riot is not afraid to perm ban your account.

scazzman1 votes

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Wrong about the first part, Blizzard is anti-toxic, and most games try to influence players not to harass others. Where League is different is how they punish you. Blizzard may give you temp bans from 1 day to 1 year, etc. But Riot is not afraid to perm ban your account.

however blizzard won't punish you simply for being passive aggressive. riot will

dYW7w6mjp11 votes

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however blizzard won't punish you simply for being passive aggressive. riot will

Because Riot is over sensitive, which was my point. Being passive aggressive most of the time won't get in trouble in the real world. If you get someone pissed it could get you in danger because that's how the real world works, but passive aggressive content isn't even as bad as hate speech or player harassment so why ban for it. It's in a different league from the other ban reasons

scazzman1 votes

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Wrong about the first part, Blizzard is anti-toxic, and most games try to influence players not to harass others. Where League is different is how they punish you. Blizzard may give you temp bans from 1 day to 1 year, etc. But Riot is not afraid to perm ban your account.

except blizzard has a clear "line" of what is and isnt ok, that isnt dictated by the safe spacers of the community. you wont get restricted/banned from wow or hots for calling someone bad.

KVbqbFsC8e5 votes

Combination of the ridiculously low standards of what is considered "toxic" these days and basic human nature.

MagicFlyingLlama21 votes

Repeatedly telling someone to kill themselves or what a horrible, worthless person with no friends, life or hope they are for building a zeal before DFS seems pretty toxic. So does running down lane on purpose because someone asked you to ward and not expose yourself to ganks. So does any unneeded passive-aggressive comment about how bad your teammates/the other team are.

If it has no constructive purpose, intent is to annoy or enrage: toxic, intolerable, punishable. Zero excuses.

dYW7w6mjp15 votes

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Repeatedly telling someone to kill themselves or what a horrible, worthless person with no friends, life or hope they are for building a zeal before DFS seems pretty toxic. So does running down lane on purpose because someone asked you to ward and not expose yourself to ganks. So does any unneeded passive-aggressive comment about how bad your teammates/the other team are.

If it has no constructive purpose, intent is to annoy or enrage: toxic, intolerable, punishable. Zero excuses.

Responding to toxicity with sarcasm or passive aggressive content (not about how bad they are, but telling them to "fuck off" or "fucking stop") should be understandable though because it's human nature, but no. Riot has a 0% tolerance policy. Also some things like asking for reports being harassment is silly, if Riot just straight up came out and massively reminded the community for a month that more than one report is not necessary that action would stop. Instead, it's a bannable offense because they expect players to know that more reports won't get their report seen faster. Some of their rules are high shooting and a lot of players get banned for minor mistakes. And you're right about it getting worse up OMG I've heard tales of people in Challenger throwing fits worse than a Bronze V player. Because they are good, and they think they're perfect because they're top 1%.

o Maui o4 votes

"Understandable" is not the same thing as "acceptable."

dYW7w6mjp11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mars Ragnarok,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mVITdeJf,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T13:17:31.955+0000)

"Understandable" is not the same thing as "acceptable."

Not always. If you beat someone in self defense your punishment will be a lot lower than if you just beat someone. If you're passive aggressive instead of toxic to a toxic player it should be self defense. However, Riot does not see context like people in the real world, yes there are things you can't do that are unacceptable (like bombing a building, even if you have a reason). Actually in context that's okay as well, if you're a deconstruction worker you can blow up a building set to be deconstructed, because of context. Riot doesn't look at context which is their main problem. Context is the difference between understanding and acceptable.

o Maui o4 votes

There isn't a context in which it is appropriate to verbally abuse someone. This is something we learned in grade school. Again, that knee-jerk response is understandable, but that doesn't make it acceptable.

One of the things to bear in mind is that these situations don't just affect you and the person who insulted you. There are a bunch of other people stuck in the game with you, and you have a responsibility to your fellow players not to take a bad situation they are stuck in and make it worse. When you respond with aggression (passive or otherwise) you are contributing to the situation, not resolving it.

dYW7w6mjp13 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mars Ragnarok,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mVITdeJf,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T14:11:31.008+0000)

There isn't a context in which it is appropriate to verbally abuse someone. This is something we learned in grade school. Again, that knee-jerk response is understandable, but that doesn't make it acceptable.

One of the things to bear in mind is that these situations don't just affect you and the person who insulted you. There are a bunch of other people stuck in the game with you, and you have a responsibility to your fellow players not to take a bad situation they are stuck in and make it worse. When you respond with aggression (passive or otherwise) you are contributing to the situation, not resolving it.

I didn't say that verbally abusing someone was acceptable, I was saying being passive aggressive to someone who's toxic doesn't deserve a ban. Society loterally teaches people to stand up for themselves when getting discriminated against, and it's always acceptable to be passive aggressive sometimes even aggressive towards the person discriminating against you.

o Maui o2 votes

Society loterally teaches people to stand up for themselves when getting discriminated against, and it's always acceptable to be passive aggressive sometimes even aggressive towards the person discriminating against you.

Riot disagrees with you. More importantly, so does the League of Legends community at large.

People can stand up for themselves without resorting to aggression or retaliation. If you cannot, then League is not the game for you.

dYW7w6mjp11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mars Ragnarok,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mVITdeJf,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T14:32:48.268+0000)

Riot disagrees with you. More importantly, so does the League of Legends community at large.

People can stand up for themselves without resorting to aggression or retaliation. If you cannot, then League is not the game for you.

Again, passive aggressiveness is not full aggression. It's aggression on the low key which is the same as shouting at your computer screen IRL.

o Maui o2 votes

It is not the same as shouting at your computer screen, as the other people in your game do not have to listen to you shouting at your computer screen. Low-key aggression is still aggression and it still needlessly contributes to a toxic situation.

howareyouthisbad1 votes

Keep talking like you've never said a bad word in game

o Maui o3 votes

Ok?

dYW7w6mjp11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mars Ragnarok,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mVITdeJf,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T14:11:31.008+0000)

There isn't a context in which it is appropriate to verbally abuse someone. This is something we learned in grade school. Again, that knee-jerk response is understandable, but that doesn't make it acceptable.

One of the things to bear in mind is that these situations don't just affect you and the person who insulted you. There are a bunch of other people stuck in the game with you, and you have a responsibility to your fellow players not to take a bad situation they are stuck in and make it worse. When you respond with aggression (passive or otherwise) you are contributing to the situation, not resolving it.

Sometimes giving someone genuine advice consistently throughout a game is sometimes considered harassment. Honestly if you're telling a player how to play better and they report you for harassment, if Riot takes it as harassment you can be banned for it. Just trying to be helpful in the game can get you banned in other words.

o Maui o1 votes

Sometimes giving someone genuine advice consistently throughout a game is sometimes considered harassment. Honestly if you're telling a player how to play better and they report you for harassment, if Riot takes it as harassment you can be banned for it. Just trying to be helpful in the game can get you banned in other words.

This is entirely incorrect.

dYW7w6mjp12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mars Ragnarok,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mVITdeJf,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-04-19T14:34:43.626+0000)

This is entirely incorrect.

I've been reported for a this and talked to Riot support about it. Where's your evidence?

o Maui o1 votes

I read it again after a bit of sleep. If you're just trying to be helpful, you won't run into any trouble at all. But if your genuine advice is being delivered in a way that doesn't look or feel like genuine advice, or if the genuine device is given along with belittlement or bullying or other abuse, then certainly you can run into an issue.

MagicFlyingLlama4 votes

It gets worse all the way up, because people are trash, take themselves too seriously, and are pissed off over the reset and balance issues. Ranked is not remotely worth playing, unless you need that victorious skin so badly.

Toxicate131 votes

{quoted} Ranked is not remotely worth playing, unless you need that victorious skin so badly.

Well I got it lol. Now I got placed gold 4 and I'm just not going to play ranked

Vith3 votes

A lot of the time you can find yourself playing a game and you're doing well, and your bot adc for instance is dying left and right. Not to ganks, just dying over and over again and you think: "ah well, it's fine; going to do my best to try and win." So there you are carrying early to mid game keeping your team in the game best you can as say the jungler for example.

Late game comes and you make ONE mistake and suddenly that adc from before just starts laying into you out of everyone else. You think: "I could have said so many things to that guy about 20 times before, wtf is he serious?"

This process happens over and over and over. It can be easy to get fed up from time to time. I'm not justifying toxicity at all, some people are really infectious with it though. Best to play some tunes you enjoy and mute whomever tries to spray their toxic garbage all over your game.

It can be really diffusing to them when you don't react to their negativity and you go on communicating with the rest of your team. If you mute them they can still hear you. If they've proven to be toxic I'm willing to doubt they are going to have anything helpful to say.

I ryuka I2 votes

that just happened to me today, and i'm so pissed, i was playing adc and there was always 3 or 4 on botlane and there was 2 times where we were being ganked (again..) and our jungler just stood on drake not doing shit and as if nothing was happening on botlane he went for the enemy's jung.. result: we were always ganked and i ended up 1/10/12 because on late game i was straight focused by fizz and full cc making my whole team flame me and reporting me at the end. Note that i was not toxic; i didn't flame; and did not int; so unfair.. seriously.. how can i have fun on this game seriously...?

sarkazum22 votes

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Hey guys, I just wanted to take a moment to rant about people.

So I am currently Silver I, but I was placed in Bronze IV this season (first placement matches ever, don't judge me please). Anyways, it seems like every game I do, people are just complete assholes. When one thing goes wrong, everyone points fingers at one person. I've seen it a lot in 4 man premade queues when I'm playing Solo Queue. It's so annoying. If I do one thing wrong, my entire team flames and reports me, even if I don't say anything. And keep in mind, this has been happening to me since BRONZE FUCKING 4. To anyone who is reading this that is higher elo, is it the same in Gold+? Is it worth it for me to keep climbing if all I'm going to do is encounter these toxic, feeding, trolls? Please let me know, because I'm debating whether or not I want to waste time climbing when I'm just going to be flamed. And by the way, Riot's report system isn't doing shit for me. I have been called many really bad things, whether it be general pejoratives or racial slurs. And this happens all game. I don't mute people because I need to actually communicate with my team, but ignoring it isn't very easy when they're spamming shit in chat because they macroed it to their keyboard. Anyways, thanks for reading my wall of text.

I know this an old post, but just figured I'd give you an update in case you chose not to play. Instead of reading this post and trying to do anything about any toxic players. Riot has chosen to implement a emote system to help further the toxicity. sooo, hope you didn't waste to much time.

FedPik2 votes

Have a bit of the same problem. My relationship with league is a little bit on/off due to the same problem. People are just way to toxic. I come back from a league break starts playing the game, but then after a week or so I can't look through the toxicity anymore and starts to hate playing. I've played since like season 1, but toxicity was not even nearly a big a problem for me as it is now. But people also seem to have become way more toxic, and it alrdy starts in champion select. It feeds me up and ruins the fun. I love to play league, but I feel like it's come to a point where its just not worth it anymore, because at the end of the day, we all just play to have fun and get a a break from daily stuff. However league is losing its appeal and its so annoying, because there is literally no reason to be so toxic, and you just ruin your own mood and everyone else mood, period...

The Highest Noon1 votes

Probably because EVERYONE has to deal with that, not just you, and the more you deal with it the less you're able to tolerate. When you're doing your best trying to climb, overcoming the nonsense of low elo, then someone makes an obvious error, a novice mistake, it reeeeally irks you when you've done everything you could to secure a win.

A similar situation would be that people put so much practice and effort into learning how to play with the greatest skill level, only to be held back by those who didn't put in as much effort as them.

Basically, it's team game nonsense. The problem with team games is individual effort does not matter if everyone else doesn't apply the same amount, and that too frustrates people. Personally, I've yet to see someone be toxic for the sole sake of toxicity. It's always "I told you" or "I'm tired of this elo" or "You should've done this". Sad, but understandable.

Mephisto31 votes

People who play LOL are the same people you see every day - they are neither more nor less "toxic" than anybody else. The reasons they react in a toxic way while playing LOL are quite simple:

(a) you get stuck with trolls / feeders on your team, who don't take the match as serious as you do, and they ruin your team's chances...

(b) you get boosters / smurfs on the enemy team, who are simply that much better than you are, that they ruin your team's chances of winning

(c) there is NOTHING you can do about either. You are stuck, for at least 20 minutes, with (a) or (b) - you cannot leave (Riot bans your account), you cannot complain (Riot bans your account), you cannot punch them in the face (obviously... it's an online game) - all things you could EASILY do in a football / basketball / any other team sports court where you are physically present.

Simple. Has nothing to do with the people who play LOL, only with the system around it. Solutions are ALSO quite simple, however, they will make the game less addictive (i.e. "less money"), so they are not implemented.

scazzman1 votes

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People who play LOL are the same people you see every day - they are neither more nor less "toxic" than anybody else. The reasons they react in a toxic way while playing LOL are quite simple:

(a) you get stuck with trolls / feeders on your team, who don't take the match as serious as you do, and they ruin your team's chances...

(b) you get boosters / smurfs on the enemy team, who are simply that much better than you are, that they ruin your team's chances of winning

(c) there is NOTHING you can do about either. You are stuck, for at least 20 minutes, with (a) or (b) - you cannot leave (Riot bans your account), you cannot complain (Riot bans your account), you cannot punch them in the face (obviously... it's an online game) - all things you could EASILY do in a football / basketball / any other team sports court where you are physically present.

Simple. Has nothing to do with the people who play LOL, only with the system around it. Solutions are ALSO quite simple, however, they will make the game less addictive (i.e. "less money"), so they are not implemented.

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CrumblingAway1 votes

This is a competitive game, people are going to be pissed at you when you make mistakes. Grow a thick skin and play better. I am a Plat 5 support main and I rarely get flamed because I rarely make mistakes (ADC don't count, they are all babies).

Edit: from the comments below, I'd like to add something: I flame, not a lot, not a little, but I definitely do, I just don't cross certain line like tellying someone to kill themselves. Basically I just don't veer off point, the flame is always aimed at their repeated mistakes. Giving FB is not flameworthy, fighting your fed counterpart when you're 2 levels and an item behind after you've already given him 3 kills? Yes, you're gonna hear about it, and you're gonna deserve it too, whether or not you take it to heart is entirely up to you.

Toxicate133 votes

"Play better" doesn't really help anything lol. I can play as well as the division I'm in. I can't all of the sudden just develop Faker skills and trash everyone in gold. But yeah, I don't get flamed for "doing stupid things" if that's what you thought. I get flamed for making mistakes that barely affect the game. I realize everyone gets flamed, and I'm not the only one. But Riot needs to step it up because only 0.006% of league accounts are banned (I have a perma banned account, it shows this statistic on there). And at least 50% of people I've seen have said something worth being banned. You might call me a hypocrite because I've been banned before, and I'm not saying that I'm not toxic (well not anymore, but I was very toxic back then). But the amount of assholes in this game is kind of sad. I've received death threats for feeding first blood, and then silence when I carry the game later on. It's kind of funny actually, but some people take this very seriously. Like me (back when I made this post anyways).

WinterGhost1001 votes

This is my opinion and not fact please do not hate on me. People become toxic when something in their life is going downhill. For an example will be losing around 2 - 3 games in a row. The player loses hope thinking that they will win the next game but something goes wrong like the JG ganking under the tower and dying. This cause the layer to be a little mad and see something about it, which in turn causes the JG to talk back and so on. This does not always happen but its what I believe causes a lot of the verbal abuse in the game.

CodyBear 1 votes

Poor match making system. There is no fun in being at a losing streak because of poor teams. Afkers and trolls who grief other players are not punished enough. I guess it’s Riots way to make people play often by being frustrated in climbing the ranked ladder. People are driven to become toxic because of this. They need to fix their Match making system.

TheClicker1 votes

I have had two games now where bot lane was 0.9.3 / 0.6.0 and 0.7.2 / 0.8.1 not a single kill between them in each game. Yet they blame jungle or mid in their team or someone else not realising thats its THEM that needs improving. But no... they blame others and become toxic. And if you defend the person they blame they start to be toxic towards you as well. No logic.

PogoJumpFizz1 votes

It's because the game is frustrating as hell. Like a project that you build over a period of time, small mistakes accumulate to cause major consequences, and with it being a team game and all, people tend to get frustrated with the fact that they can't interfere, and basically what happens is that the inch of glass seperates you from the other player, basically to the point of objectification by champion. You don't ever see any reports asking to report a certain username, it's always the champion (except in one4all) that takes center stage. You wouldn't feel bad for screaming insults at a rock, or your pen, or that lamp in your room. However, try saying it to a stranger you just met. If you're fun, make jokes, or talk and connect with the people in your game, high chance is, they'll be nice and accepting of your mistakes, or at least won't tell you that you're a degenerate pile of severed bull penises covered in shit I have been called those exact same words. They don't see you as a person unless you are going out of your way to be one. Everyone's focused on the game way too much. Nevertheless, it is subjective to the person and their experience. You might be the nicest person in the world, but we all have a boiling point. Could be working your ass off, having time for one game and having it be ruined by a troll or a flamer. Or it could be facing an extremely irritating teemo zed darius champion. But there's always the bad apple in the mix, who can't see his own error and only focuses on your tiniest of mistakes, and the toxic sludge. These are probably younger gamers, with bad judgement and a hotheaded attitude. Either that or they're sociopaths, either way, tell them to calm down and ignore them, but if they're really bad just mute them.

Geners1 votes

Because people don't realize that it's Just a game. Like any other it's meant to be enjoyed for the experience. If you're playing non-ranked games it's especially pointless to be toxic. You're just trying to make someone else feel bad so you can feel better about yourself. No Acceptable at all.

Uhm Actually1 votes

Apparently riot has a 0 tolerance policy against flamers and toxic slurs. But whenever you report someone, no action takes place. So obviously riot's punishment system is screwed up. I've reported 20 people the passed 1/2 weeks, I've taken screenshots of them flaming and uploaded it with the reports. Yet they don't provide any feedback. So they are basically encouraging toxic behavior.

But no worries, Riot will soon realize when their player base drops -that it's not a joke.

SenoirMeow1 votes

Can confirm this is happening. Someone told me to kill myself because i chose Diana. Another team mate agreed and suggested I was better off dead. The person saying these things barely done any better than me in game and reported me because I didn't press "lock in" quick enough on champ select because i opened by bedroom window. He literally asked the whole team to report me. Obviously me saying "calm down its a game" didn't help the matter. It was my first ever ranked game haha.

ocha boi1 votes

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Can confirm this is happening. Someone told me to kill myself because i chose Diana. Another team mate agreed and suggested I was better off dead. The person saying these things barely done any better than me in game and reported me because I didn't press "lock in" quick enough on champ select because i opened by bedroom window. He literally asked the whole team to report me. Obviously me saying "calm down its a game" didn't help the matter. It was my first ever ranked game haha.

people are control freaks on here and you're not allowed a bad game without being called a feeder or worse, to kill yourself. but again, you don't know these people and you probably never will irl so that's a good thing. they're just spewing hate and having an aneurysm because being hateful feels better to them than letting shit go. trust me, i know what it's like to be that angry and it's always a place of insecurity.

Mathgodpi1 votes

It's due to a buildup of frustration from losing a number of games. We all experience frustration, but different people have different ways of handling it.

Jonesybones1 votes

It going to take effort and time to turn this community around. Report anyone you see in game that is toxic. And don't be toxic back. just mute/all

Magical Poop1 votes

becouse they have no influence what you do and they're triggering becouse they think that one mistake can lead to lose

Swixtie1 votes

People are so toxic because of the way the game works. Especially in lower elos, below plat I mean, people just don't understand basic macro and don't understand snowball system of league. As if for instance you have Jax who plays vs Fiora and fiora gets 1 or 2 kills. In lower elos instead of giving up farm and keeping the tower alive this Jax will just feed harder and harder and lead to a situation in which you play 4 vs 6 because Jax is 3 levels behind Fiora. This is the most apparent reason why people especially in lower elo flame so hard because other players might even unconsciously ruin their game singlehandedly. I know it's a team game but it's not a game like R6 Siege or Counter Strike where rounds last for 3 to 4 minutes and every round you more or less have equal chances of winning. In league the game usually snowballs out of control in addition to existence of super hard carry champions like Yasuo, Master Yi or Kassadin which are best picks for smurfs because are the easiest to 1 vs 9 them the game.

Another very triggering thing is the amount of AFKs in low elo. When I was in Gold 2 I remember that I had a match where I was playing Fiora vs Gnar and my jungle and mid went simultaneously afk in 4 min of the game. We lost in 21 mins and I lost -25 lp because of that and even though everybody reported them, nothing happened they didn't get banned or anything. They received the same penalty as the people that actually played the game 3 vs 5 and lost.

I get it that Riot can't just be permissive of not giving a penalty in lp when you lose a game but I personally believe that there is a huge amount of players who are just really good at the game and have their skill much higher than their elo suggests but because of the certain issues that Riot ranked system has they are hardstuck and as the time goes they become really frustrated and start flaming and may become oversensitive to other players feeding, not smiting well or just over that they play vs smurfs.

Not to mention the fact that even though you might go 0/10 and be completely useless in a match you may still be promoted to higher tier because of luck that your team is carrying you or just that you duo with a Grandmaster tier friend who boosts you while playing in duo.

Another thing are winning streaks that can get you in 30 matches from Silver to Diamond. This is a big bullshit because nobody is that good that they win every match even though they might just crush their opponents in lane or gank extremely well cause how you gank when your 3 lanes are 0/5.

It's nearly impossible to make a perfect match making and ranked system but there are so many evident error in Riot's that it's no surprise that people that want to climb as the time goes on become tilted and start flaming, trolling, afking etc.

In my opinion competitive scene in LoL is really healthy and developing but the balance in the game and just the attitude of people makes the game in the longer run unenjoyable, stressful and tilting. Especially if your favourite champion doesn't get skin in 4 years and Yasuo, Zed and Lux get one every month or when you main Aurelion Sol that just gets destroyed by the rework comparing to newly reworked diana which is completely broken and in high elo has permabanned status.

Arammus1 votes

NEKROOOO!!!

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