Reminder: Number of reports per game does not matter.

StarTorched · 2016-09-06T16:27:45.429Z

Pardon my language. If you got dainty eyes/ears, close them for a second. Number of reports Don't. Fucking. Matter. So quit your bitching about how the premade screwed you and that's the only reason you got banned and that the ban system is broken because you are innocent. No you are not. Report or reports in a game just flags the game. It doesn't matter if you get one report from the game or nine, nothing would happen unless you been a toxic little shit. The system does not care how many reports was made in a game. It doesn't say "oh look, there are four reports that game, that makes it more believable then just one report!" If you were banned for it, it's not because the four man premade "screwed you over", it's because you fucked up. You aren't innocent, especially because one game could not get you banned by the automated system. Edit: I made this post in a rush, so here's some more information. A helpful link from Nobody1111: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/tvviuURj-multiple-reports-and-other-misconceptions And another from TheArtifacts: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/9VrUtrJo-being-solo-and-having-a-team-report P.S. Personal anecdotes about how you were banned because "premade" (fill with whatever grievance here) is a fallacy. If you are going to argue against this, saying that the information provided by me is false, please send me some proof from either forums from Riot or other valid information that might make me eat my words. Thank you.

SchàdenfreudeSep 6, 20162 votes

Exactly. People must be deluded these days to think that with many posts complaining about premades false reporting them and getting punished the number of reports still does not matter.

GaleWinUnleashedSep 6, 201610 votes

Funnily enough, almost every time we ask for chat logs from these "victims" it turns out that they let the premade get to them and started firing back with the same behavior.

A premade group does have more ability to frustrate you and try to lure out a response. But it doesn't make a difference if you just don't rise to the bait. It's really that simple. They may not like you for whatever reason, but as long as you don't fall into the mold they're building for you they can't do anything more than talk.

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KarunamonSep 6, 201628 votes

No, really, it doesn't. 9 reports in one game is less serious than 1 report per nine games. One report flags a game for review. The results of the review is completely independent of the number of reports.

Meanwhile, one report every game for 9 games means you're coming up for review quite a lot.

Great MutaSep 6, 20167 votes

1 report is all it takes. No one actually reviews these games, a program does it.

And due to Riot's "it's not what you did this game, but what you did in past games" policy, you can always find justification for punishments.

KarunamonSep 6, 201619 votes

Given the frequency with which people come here to complain that they were permabanned without following the escalating punishments, something that can only be done by Riot staff, this can't be true.

Great MutaSep 6, 20164 votes

Riot cannot check every report. I probably report 3-4 people per 5 games or more. Even if everyone did half of that, they'd have to review millions of reports per day.

The only cases that get reviewed are 1) cases that get enough traction on here or 2) cases with support tickets.

KarunamonSep 6, 201610 votes

All permabans are reviewed by Riot staff. The automated system cannot mete those out.

Great MutaSep 6, 20164 votes

I'd like to see proof of that.

KarunamonSep 6, 20168 votes

It's been that way since at least 2012

Caustic KapaSep 7, 20161 votes

I have been only baned once for a week in 2014 for telling a guy to f himself in very detailed form, but anyway how does this escalation ban system work? I keep seeing all these posts that OMG OMG BANED UNFAIR, but dont they get some certain amount of bans before its permanent to warn them?

DODAR47May 29, 20171 votes

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I have been only baned once for a week in 2014 for telling a guy to f himself in very detailed form, but anyway how does this escalation ban system work? I keep seeing all these posts that OMG OMG BANED UNFAIR, but dont they get some certain amount of bans before its permanent to warn them?

He right like Wt*. i have been baned for 20 min for 5 matches.thats like 1 hour and 40 min. And if you count The time you Need to Pick a champ it Will take 2 hour Wait for 5 matches. Do you have something that called warning

DODAR47May 29, 20171 votes

He right

StarTorchedSep 6, 20162 votes

You just proved my point.

DODAR47May 29, 20171 votes

Thats so unfair Warnings Can stop people if Not then you have The right to Ban. Not just ban Someone becouse he been reported

DODAR47May 29, 20171 votes

20 min i dont Think i Can Wait 20 min. ItWill take so much time. I could prople start a match and close champ and play for 12-10 min then waiting for 20 min

DODAR47May 29, 20171 votes

Learn how to warn people

Supreme Senpai69Sep 6, 20162 votes

What he's saying is if someone reports a lot their report doesn't matter anymore. So if 9 people report you, there's a higher chance of the report actually being sent in. So for me, who reports an AFK or a troll or intentional feeder 1-2 times every single game, my reports probably don't matter. When I see somebody toxic I privately ask my friend to report them as well just to make sure the report is actually being sent in.

Now that's a bit different than saying more reports = higher chance of being banned, and if you're banned you deserve it most of the time, but I think it's important to point out still.

StarTorchedSep 6, 20164 votes

Your report weighs less if your reports are invalid.

Also considering his wording is "4 people who want to report you = Stronger chance 1 of them actually does." I take it to mean that if four people desires to perform the act of reporting, the chances are that one of them will actually go through with it. Which means yes, it is far from what I'm saying.

My point is that it doesn't matter how many people report you because games are flagged the same way.

Supreme Senpai69Sep 6, 20161 votes

I know what your point was, I read the thread and your numerous posts lol. Even before that I already knew being banned is due to number of games reported and not number of reports, Riot's said that more than a few times. I was just pointing out an important distinction that was related to the thread, no need to use bold.

StarTorchedSep 6, 20161 votes

But that's not what he said either.

Supreme Senpai69Sep 6, 20161 votes

Ok.

StarTorchedSep 6, 20162 votes

I'm not trying to be aggressive towards you, simply frustrated. And for that I apologize. Yet when I responded, I did my best to read his comment and found my own interpretation. But I'm pretty sure your reports aren't considered invalid just due to the person not being punished.

I honestly don't know what to say, I was pretty angry and I'm sorry for my rudeness.

KarunamonSep 6, 20161 votes

What he's saying is if someone reports a lot their report doesn't matter anymore.

Based on what? Riot only says your report weight goes down (and/or you get banned) if you submit bogus reports.

theArtifactsSep 6, 20164 votes

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Based on what? Riot only says your report weight goes down (and/or you get banned) if you submit bogus reports.

You wont get banned for submitting bogus reports. You just won't have your reports taken seriously by the system.

Gary B EnkelisSep 7, 20161 votes

Like the story of the kid who cried wolf.

StarTorchedSep 6, 20166 votes

And this is against my argument how? Number of reports don't effect the actual judging is my meaning, and you are here telling me about the possibility of reports. Which means you are taking my post the wrong way and here I was thinking I was being clear.

And if you got suspended it isn't because they told people to report you, it's because you did something.

theArtifactsSep 6, 20161 votes

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It does matter. 4 people who want to report you = Stronger chance 1 of them actually does.

Both times I got suspended it was due to people pandering for reports.

No it doesn't. This has been confirmed already by the Rito Gods.

KarunamonSep 6, 20161 votes

Any idea where? I've had no luck finding anything to that effect from an official source.

theArtifactsSep 6, 20162 votes

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Any idea where? I've had no luck finding anything to that effect from an official source.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/9VrUtrJo-being-solo-and-having-a-team-report

KarunamonSep 6, 20162 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/9VrUtrJo-being-solo-and-having-a-team-report?comment=000000000002

Here is a Rioter explicitly saying that multiple reports mean nothing.

Great MutaSep 6, 20162 votes

Again, as he says, it only takes 1. 1 person asking 8 people to report you? 1/8 chance of you getting a mark on your discipline record. A couple of bad games like that? Banned.

StarTorchedSep 6, 20162 votes

Yes, it only takes one, which means additional ones don't matter, so group reporting to get someone banned is not a thing.\

I still don't understand what you are arguing for. If you are talking about how the the more people report the more likely it is to go through, then I'm just gonna tell you that games are flagged regardless of how many reports, which means it goes through no matter what. And if you are getting banned that just means it's not just a couple of bad games and you are just getting consistently reported.

Great MutaSep 7, 20161 votes

Again, as he says, it only takes 1. 1 person asking 8 people to report you? 1/8 chance of you getting a mark on your discipline record. A couple of bad games like that? Banned.

This should answer most of your post.

StarTorchedSep 7, 20162 votes

And again I'm just gonna tell you you only got banned cause you did something ban worthy.

Great MutaSep 7, 20161 votes

1 report is all it takes. No one actually reviews these games, a program does it.

And due to Riot's "it's not what you did this game, but what you did in past games" policy, you can always find justification for punishments.

StarTorchedSep 7, 20162 votes

So, people punished did do things that are worth punishing. You'll have to forgive me for not believing that everyone is just fine and dandy. There's also the fact that reports have to be often, which means obviously something is fishy.

And no, there's no one report that gets you banned unless you manually reports someone for something heinous. One report might be the one that finally catches you, like the straw that broke the camel's back, but unless something really intolerable has been done, one report is not ALL it takes.

Great MutaSep 7, 20161 votes

When you are fishing for reasons to uphold bans, you're gonna find something in _____ games. No one could possibly hold it together with the stupid shit I see on a daily basis in Bronze. Last 24 hours alone:

We are behind and go for baron. Jungler instead goes to blue side's blue. It takes us a while and enemy Sion comes in and swipes it out of our hands 1v3 while our full health jungler is god knows where.
Jungle Kassadin.
While I did die too many times, I had double the CS of our jungler and was 3 levels ahead, while I was being told by the whole team that I was, quote "the worst gnar NA".
"I didn't take 6 of your camps, I took 10" ADC Lucian.
"What's Thornmail?"
"The farming phase is over" - Support to my Veigar

It only takes one.

StarTorchedSep 7, 20163 votes

I have faced plenty of those without raging at those people.

I got placed in B1 and I play normals, there are plenty of silly/stupid things, but it's no cause for rage. Why? Because after you relieve your desire to say shit, you realize it helps nothing, not even your own mood.

It's a matter of self control, sure there are times I lose it, but apparently I do so less often and with less intensity, or something of the effect.

Charles The CatFeb 25, 20181 votes

If Summoner 1 is telling everyone to report Summoner 2, then does report Summoner 2, then that's it. That's all that's required.

I really doubt that Summoner 1, who's raging hard, asking everyone to report Summoner 2, is going to just up and leave without reporting Summoner 2. In the event that they don't, then sure, if Summoner 3 reports Summoner 2 because Summoner 1 asked them to, then it was "worth" it.

Reminder: Number of reports per game does not matter.

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