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Permanent bans

Only Fenrir·7/19/2017, 12:45:17 AM·3 votes·968 views

Alright so lets start this off by me saying I am scum, I ruined many games and have been banned d around 3 times before I got my finally permanent ban, did I deserve it? Hell fucking yes I did. Before we start let me say I am sorry to everyone's game I was ruined everyone's day I have ruined and even worse to everyone that I have ever flamed. I know u probably don't even remember me but I'm sorry, when I was younger I was rude had anger management issues and was extremely explosive, this resulted in the perma ban of my account of 3 years with over 15,000 hours played and around 600 or more dollars sunk into it. When I was permanent banned I was devestated and I turned my self around, I went to anger manament classes as well as read many books on anger management and haven't even touched the game in awhile. I spent a long time playing rugby focusing on school and learning to control that rage that's built up inside of me due to family issues with my father being a drug addicted and brother following his footsteps. After a year of training I feel like I have learned to control my anger and even learned how to diffuse arguments with my self as well as with others. I've learned a lot of self control. Now I figured I was ready to come back as a reformed player and benefit the community and game that I once terriozied only to find out that perma bans are 100% indefinite and the experiment to allow players to reform was destroyed by people like the old me. So my question to you as the community that I once flamed but still loved, to the game that I once ruined but still was addicted to, do you think there should be a system in league where after a year or more u can come back and get your permanently banned account resolved if you pass a certain reform sheet or maybe even something like where the next ban with negative activity results in an immediate perma ban as if your name is on a black list or something that can never be wiped? I feel like I deserve another chance but Maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm still scum but I think they should give players like me a chance to reform and be an asset to the community instead of someone who wants to hurt it thank you for your time have a great day

32 Comments

Deep Terror Nami7/19/2017, 1:44:11 AM5 votes

I do agree there could be some slight changes to the punishment tiers, but not revoking a permanent ban. Riot had a program for this and it failed horribly, as 95% of the players went right back to their toxic behavior. I'm glad you were able to turn around and become a better person through this, but you're a rarity. You may not be able to get your account back, but I encourage you to stick around and share your experiences with others on the PB board so maybe others can learn from it.

Geauxx7/19/2017, 12:58:20 AM2 votes

That's the point of the 14day ban proceeding to the perma ban.

Why didn't the thought of trying to reform start after the 14 day ban? why does it have to be after the perma ban?

Legit are told that if you mess up anymore you're done, took it for granted and got the perm, but thats when actions were regretted...

Hell and the second chance you talk about is being able to make a new account with a clean slate.

Edit: not second... more like 3rd or 4th chance

daniel01247/19/2017, 1:02:35 AM1 votes

I believe that u have had enough warning however I do like the idea of a one year ban or one year before u can begin to reform as it gives toxic players a long time period to actually think about what they are doing and weather or not they want to change

Chermorg7/19/2017, 1:10:13 AM1 votes

The point of a permanent ban is that it is permanent.

If there was a system to retrieve a permanent banned account, it would be gamed. Riot gives you the chance to start fresh, on a new account, with no prior punishment history. That's more than many games do.

If permanent bans were made less permanent, it would remove the incentive to reform like you truly did for most people. People would just wait the time then game whatever test, come back not having truly reformed. And they'd go right back to their old attitude and behavior because they haven't reformed.

Chibi Bronzlife7/19/2017, 3:42:16 AM1 votes

So here is my 2 cents. If we equate your behavior's consequence to a real world scenario, say mouth off to the wrong people, they warn you a few times then you keep doing it and they fatally wound you and you die, do you get a reprieve from that? No. We must learn to accept our mistakes, sometimes we become better people because of it sometimes we don't but in the end our mistakes are what allow us to grow (those that don't kill us at least). You made something from your mistakes so look for ways to improve the community, maybe do analyst work, coach, or just advise other players it may not be the way you want to help out the community, but maybe it could lead to finding something you enjoy doing.

awholepie7/19/2017, 5:14:25 AM1 votes

ahhh. we dont want trannies in our bathrooms and they dont want us toxics in the game. isnt life just full of stupid conundrums.

YerroFever7/19/2017, 5:21:03 AM1 votes

People are free to make new accounts after a permaban on an account. Just make sure you don't repeat that behavior and get your new account permabanned.

FightORFlight7/19/2017, 6:11:15 AM1 votes

If permabans are lifted after 3 months after they arent perma are they? Enjoy the ban... youre lucky you got 3 chances before getting perma one.. looks like you arent going to change your behaviour

hells1447/19/2017, 12:57:52 AM1 votes

I agree with this to some degree maybe the t st will have to be getting max honour with the new honor system or something of the sort

Siegfriedx17/19/2017, 7:27:29 AM1 votes

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Alright so lets start this off by me saying I am scum, I ruined many games and have been banned d around 3 times before I got my finally permanent ban, did I deserve it? Hell fucking yes I did. Before we start let me say I am sorry to everyone's game I was ruined everyone's day I have ruined and even worse to everyone that I have ever flamed. I know u probably don't even remember me but I'm sorry, when I was younger I was rude had anger management issues and was extremely explosive, this resulted in the perma ban of my account of 3 years with over 15,000 hours played and around 600 or more dollars sunk into it. When I was permanent banned I was devestated and I turned my self around, I went to anger manament classes as well as read many books on anger management and haven't even touched the game in awhile. I spent a long time playing rugby focusing on school and learning to control that rage that's built up inside of me due to family issues with my father being a drug addicted and brother following his footsteps. After a year of training I feel like I have learned to control my anger and even learned how to diffuse arguments with my self as well as with others. I've learned a lot of self control. Now I figured I was ready to come back as a reformed player and benefit the community and game that I once terriozied only to find out that perma bans are 100% indefinite and the experiment to allow players to reform was destroyed by people like the old me. So my question to you as the community that I once flamed but still loved, to the game that I once ruined but still was addicted to, do you think there should be a system in league where after a year or more u can come back and get your permanently banned account resolved if you pass a certain reform sheet or maybe even something like where the next ban with negative activity results in an immediate perma ban as if your name is on a black list or something that can never be wiped? I feel like I deserve another chance but Maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm still scum but I think they should give players like me a chance to reform and be an asset to the community instead of someone who wants to hurt it thank you for your time have a great day

Man, I believe in you. I'm sure this was all a big experience and you took it to the best direction now. However your previous account was marked by many people as the source of their sadness.

You are not even allowed to have the same name as an account that have been permanent banned. Ever.

I would see your old account as a mark of the past and the money and time you spend as the price you paid to get to this better experience.

A friend advice would be to not try to reform to fix things up (getting your account back), as a lot of things in life we mess up and there is no fixing to that, but reforming because you want to fix yourself up and move on.

Be grateful you only had to pay 600 to understand more yourself and help yourself with your case. Some people spend 20 years and 100.000 dollars on clínics and continue stuck in the dark and being banned from many other things different than league.

There is nothing good there to go back to and people feel more secure when everybody think this way. Start fresh and proud of having a new account and we will all support you.

Carteeeer7/19/2017, 1:00:34 AM1 votes

after 14 day ban i think it should escalate to 3 month ban then perm

unban players banned for toxicity, give them chat restrict for a while, and give them one last chance to be nice to people :)