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How to Make League Less Toxic

Minulfur··1 votes·647 views

-After 7 min of someone being afk, everyone in the game is free to leave. (Dota cred) -Upon being down 20 kills or maybe 15k-20k gold allow ff of 2-3 or let players leave game. -Actually punish players that are purposefully putting the team at a disadvantage. -Chat restrictions should be chat prohibition for 10 and 25 games. Not talking to ur teammates at all is very discouraging and might deter further toxicity. -Have in game champ guides made by pro players with detailed itemization explanations for varying situations.(No more full ap blitz sup please.) -FIX THE JUNGLE. -Hire 50-75 high elo players to do actual balance testing on new patches 3-5 days a week. -Nerf or rework things that are frustrating or super oppressive to play against.Akali Fizz JarvanIV Sion Teemo Warwick Vladimir Zed

  • FINALLY LET US DODGE MORE. Most of the time you can tell how the game is gonna play out in champ select: team attitude, comp, etc.. Only being able to dodge twice in 16 hours is awful. For a solution I recommend lose 5 lp on Every dodge, but have no time penalty for dodging or successive dodging. Lp loss can scale or go up idk just an idea.

These are the things that I find most frustrating in LoL rn that make me incredibly toxic. Being stuck on team for 40+minutes with people that don't want to win or are just flat out trolling is the most aggravating part about a MOBA imo and after a bunch of games like that, which we know happens frequently in low elo, you cant help but succumb to your anger.

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Imperial Pandaa10 votes

.1. What happens in ranked? Who gets lp who loses? What prevents it from being abused?

.2. Super majority is fine. We might have the better scaling and can get back in. If you allow part two then refer back to point 1.

.3. Define purposefully putting their tram at a disadvantage. How do you even decide that? Riot won't enforce a meta.

.4. Back when infinite chat restrictions/band were a thing. People who couldn't chat resorted to gameplay toxicity trolling/inting.

.5. So you want the game to automatically identify and recommend a guide based on a situation that can quite possibly change on a dime?

.6. What a well thought out and descriptive point. From it I can exactly understand what problem you have with the jungle.

.7. Are you trying to get rid of the pbe? Because that is the point of the pbe.

.8. I'll let you in on a small secret. When they do nerf or do whatever to those champions, new champions will simply take their place.

.9. I think being able to dodge twice is more than reasonable.

.10. Sounds more like a you problem than a game problem. Also, why cater to your whims exclusively? Someone else may have the exact opposite opinion of you and doing what you want will make them toxic instead.

Minulfur1 votes
  1. Obviously the team that loses, if u have an afk ur probably losing anyways unless ur in silver or bronze. (Less lp loss for the ones that stay maybe.)
  2. If you are down by that much scaling doesn't matter lol ur gonna lose the game before you can scale or its gonna be an hour long clown fiesta that I don't wanna be in even if we end up winning.
  3. Shitty picks, letting teammates die, etc.. Riot should enforce a meta for ranked in the current game state or make less of a meta overall like dota.
  4. Okay then ban them?
  5. It is an overall guide detailing why certain items are good for certain champs in certain situations. Dota did this and its just fine.
  6. I don't jungle so I don't want to speak to harshly cuz I would just nerf tf out of jg and make them farm mobs all game
  7. The pbe is shit lol. Anyone can get access it and the ping is god awful for most people even in NA. So keep PBE idc, but in addition have an actual team dedicated to testing balance changes throughout patches exclusive to ex pro, or high elo players.
  8. Id rather haveAhri then Akali
  9. If you didn't get increasing time penalty then yes
  10. Then don't feed 8 times in lane and put the whole team behind.
Imperial Pandaa7 votes

.1. If me staying means I lose less lp, why would someone leave? .2. Hey, hour long clown fiesta that can be won because there is a point when gold lead doesn't matter? I queued knowing a game could take that long. If it is ranked I'm going to stick to it. .3. Who determines if a pick is shitty? Rip every adc who lets their support die for them. How can they make less of a meta even less than not actually forcing a meta? Players are the ones who determine a meta. .4. Then why not just keep chat restricts as they are? .5. So... More detail then what is currently in shop. Because if I am in the middle of a game I really rather play and not spend time reading/watching why an item is best on a champ. .6. That is how we get Farm Junglers. Do you want the farm junglers back? .7. Testing throughout patches? You mean collecting data through gameplay like they do? .8. Because she is a foxy mama? xD but really. You say it now, but eventually she would hit the point of being too oppressive to face. .9. Time penalty is more connected to leaverbuster. It would have to be changed there. .10. Sometimes it can't be helped? At a certain point diving becomes super simple and effective.

Chermorg8 votes

Virtually all of your points amount to "it doesn't fit my idea of the meta and strategy thus I should be allowed to leave/be toxic or they should be punished".

As I've said (and others as well), it's time you stop trying to act like you're the pro and it's your way or the highway.

Minulfur1 votes

The only thing I mentioned about meta at all was champs that I think could use a nerf or most likely a rework for most the champs I put up. Everything else is how to make the game more enjoyable for a base of players that like to win and not waste 40 minutes in a 4v5 loss.

Chermorg5 votes

-Actually punish players that are purposefully putting the team at a disadvantage.

This is your opinion, and you trying to enforce your "advantageous" team on others.

-Have in game champ guides made by pro players with detailed itemization explanations for varying situations.(No more full ap blitz sup please.)

This is you trying to enforce what you think is "pro" on others. Players are not obligated to follow you, nor are they obligated to follow what pro players do.

-FIX THE JUNGLE.

The jungle is honestly fine right now. Unless, of course, you want a gank-gank-gank meta or some specific meta in it.

-Hire 50-75 high elo players to do actual balance testing on new patches 3-5 days a week.

No, because the game isn't just balanced around high elo, nor is it balanced around a particular meta.

-Nerf or rework things that are frustrating or super oppressive to play against.

Again, your opinion on the meta (which isn't a thing).

Let's look at you wanting permission to leave games or be toxic:

-After 7 min of someone being afk, everyone in the game is free to leave. (Dota cred)

You agree when you queue that you're going to finish the game. If you cannot agree to that and/or if you're only going to play when it's easy, then don't queue.

-Chat restrictions should be chat prohibition for 10 and 25 games. Not talking to ur teammates at all is very discouraging and might deter further toxicity.

So, you'd rather players not be able to communicate at all? Even to let their team know that they can't communicate? That's... not very helpful and borderline toxic in and of itself to remove all text communication.

  • FINALLY LET US DODGE MORE. Most of the time you can tell how the game is gonna play out in champ select: team attitude, comp, etc.. Only being able to dodge twice in 16 hours is awful. For a solution I recommend lose 5 lp on Every dodge, but have no time penalty for dodging or successive dodging. Lp loss can scale or go up idk just an idea.

Again, you're trying to enforce your meta on others, or enforce who you want your teammates to play on them, and be given a free pass to leave when it doesn't go your way

Your problem is not others - it's you. You have your ideas about what's effective, what's appropriate, and what's viable, and that's fine. What's not fine is that you are consistently looking for ways to force others to abide by your ruleset instead of allowing them to do what you do and play what they think will work. Just as you think a certain meta is appropriate, they are allowed to have their own opinions and pick based on their opinions. You do not get to force your meta on others, and you do not get to leave just because others do not do exactly what you want them to.

Minulfur1 votes

Literally everything you say is just as much as an opinion as everything I said fuck off

Chermorg8 votes

My opinion happens to be that everyone is entitled to his or own opinion.

Your opinion is that only your opinion matters.

Minulfur1 votes

Your opinion happens to be I don't care if the game is 25-3 the one guy on our team with 3 kills has to be at the mercy of us fucking idiots while we run around feeding some more

Chermorg5 votes

Yes, because I signed up to play the game until the end, if they don't want to surrender, they aren't forced to. That's the rule of the game. If you can't accept it, don't play the game (you mention DOTA - maybe that's a better fit for you).

Minulfur1 votes

And this post is citing changes that could be made to the rules to make a less toxic community. My point. The rules are shit

Chermorg5 votes

Again, your opinion.

The vast majority of the community is not toxic. You yourself have proven yourself to be a part of this "toxic community" (you've been punished for being so). I don't think Riot would want to take suggestions for how to "improve" the community from someone who's been punished for being toxic. Your "improvements" would lead to a much more toxic community.

The rules as they are now work for well over 80% of players who never get punished once, and the other 10+% of players who only get one chat restriction before realizing their behavior is inappropriate. Your inability to follow the rules, behave, and allow others their free thoughts and opinion, and your necessity to act like the boss and be the boss, does not mean that the rules are bad.

Minulfur1 votes

nah you are ignorant and wrong

zPOOPz5 votes

great counter-point!!!

Jo0o4 votes

I hate this.

Xidphel2 votes

https://i.imgur.com/WpXhF74.png

Jo0o1 votes

WAH.

Minulfur1 votes

I hate when my bot lane is a combined 0/12 and they wont ff because they "scale."

Jo0o3 votes

Sure, we all lose games, but all of your suggestions work towards the goal of allowing you subjective control of abandoning matches that aren't going perfectly for you. You haven't considered any potential abuse/misuse for any of the features you're suggesting, nor the impact on matchmaking that things like extended dodge privileges might have. Half these ideas aren't even explained. What the fuck does "fix the jungle" mean?

Minulfur1 votes

0/12 bot lane or 20 k gold lead is far from "perfect" I don't mind playing from behind but that is just horrible, Id rather start fresh in a new game and shouldn't have to be stuck with idiots for 60 minutes. Misuse of these would only make the player misusing it go down in rank lol. You still lose lp and everything but you don't have to be at the mercy of team of idiots

ModPeriscope3 votes

I don't have any matches that both A) get that out of hand or B) have a team that won't surrender. If it really bothers you that much/happens that frequently to you then your options are to either afk or don't queue up. 1 afk isn't going to get you leaver buster.

Minulfur1 votes

AFK 100% gets you leaverbuster lol

ModPeriscope5 votes

Only if you do it repeatedly. If this happened as often as you say, your match history would reflect that.

Minulfur1 votes

Because this is my only account. Lol I love kids that actually look up ppls match history on here lololol

ModPeriscope3 votes

Oh I haven't. But figured you'd say "well what about this game" and it probably wouldn't support your opinion.

Minulfur1 votes

idk man maybe u haven't leveled that many smurfs and new accounts but it happens pretty often

ModPeriscope5 votes

Really? New players have varying amounts of skill in league? WHO KNEW?

Minulfur1 votes

Then let me leave the fucking game if a "new" player is 0/10 in my game and not surrender. That's all I am saying

Leylania2 votes

Why is it always the actual toxic assholes who make post about how to make the community less toxic? Are you that delusional?

heroikc1 votes

There are so many problems with your suggestions, but let me talk about the champions you picked:
Akali is flimsy and lackluster in teamfights, being easily bursted, particularly by Juggernauts. Fizz is no longer a pain, mostly a tough tank can bully him away. Teemo is strictly cheese and tanks can beat him more easily than Fizz Sion can be kited. Warwick is uber dependent on help to be dangerous; one wrong or miscalculated dive and he's toast. Vladimir and Zed just need some means to avoid burst...or just burst them faster. Besides, they each have limited escape that are easily wasted. JarvanIV I have no thoughts on.

Heck, most of your "problem champs", I can beat to a pulp with Poppy.

I'm more appalled with Nasus and his E, AP Blitzcrank, Vayne, Kayle's wonky kit, and daffy bot-laners/supports.

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