Does this thing even work anymore? Like honestly i have had so many games with etremely rude and toxic players that i report but nothing ever happens. It seems that almost every game i have had somebody has had at least one negative thing to say about me. Not just my team but the enemy too. Reporra seem to do nothing so i might as well not report anymore. Let me tell you, it's hard to farm in the jungle when a toxic ashe follows just to take your monsters
Magical Player2 votesthis board exists because the report feature works
Revelstoke1 votes[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jtQsEcEb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-21T05:47:19.193+0000)
this board exists because the report feature works
Acutally there's 100's of people posting things like;
Bring back tribunal I just got death threats Just had 5 games with trolls Someone just followed me and stole cs Please do something about trolls Do something better about inting Etc etc
So I'll concede it must ban some people, but its shit, just plain shit, its not catching trolls, its not catching feeders until they have ruined 100's of players games.
A big portion of the community want Riot to implement better troll and feeder detection as a priority.
We've been ignored for years, the forum posts have been stacking up that long..
No we dont care about shiny new client graphics, No we dont care about how wonderful your naughty word filter was.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesAcutally there's 100's of people posting things like;
Bring back tribunal I just got death threats Just had 5 games with trolls Someone just followed me and stole cs Please do something about trolls Do something better about inting Etc etc
Those issues were exacerbated by the Tribunal because it was excruciatingly slow and voting was not consistent. The IFS is many magnitudes faster and is actually more accurate; manual reviews are still done to handle fringe cases and randomly to ensure accuracy. Punishing players accurately and within 5 minutes of the case review has proven to be more effective for reforming negative behavior.
However, that is not to say the system is perfect or that Riot is done working on it. Riot actually has work on player behavior systems lined up after the LCU is finished and they can spare the resources.
Revelstoke1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jtQsEcEb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-21T14:06:34.501+0000)
Bring back tribunal I just got death threats Just had 5 games with trolls Someone just followed me and stole cs Please do something about trolls Do something better about inting Etc etc
Those issues were exacerbated by the Tribunal because it was excruciatingly slow and voting was not consistent. The IFS is many magnitudes faster and is actually more accurate; manual reviews are still done to handle fringe cases and randomly to ensure accuracy. Punishing players accurately and within 5 minutes of the case review has proven to be more effective for reforming negative behavior.
However, that is not to say the system is perfect or that Riot is done working on it. Riot actually has work on player behavior systems lined up after the LCU is finished and they can spare the resources.
This can be faster this can be more accurate IFS is incredibly slow, so unless you have some metric on how its faster or how its more accurate you are just making unsubstantiated claims. There's a lot of evidence people can Feed non-stop for weeks and not trigger the system.
There are plenty of metrics on the automated system for CHAT TOXICITY but I am yet to see ANY for INTENTIONAL FEEDING. Perhaps this is what your actually talking about.
Actual trolls who are being a little bit smarter than walking down the lane, well there is no automated system so, we are infinitely worse off than when we had Tribunal, which did detect and punish trolls.
Hurray they lied about Tribunal being the next project after dynamic queue! Hurray the new client will be being bug fixed for months! Hurray we get something nobody was asking for! Good Priorities!
If they had actually had kept the teams working on the new Tribunal perhaps it would be out by now and the issues with speed and consistency would be being worked on.
Don't give Riot a pass on this issue, they have shitty priorities and are not listening to what the community wants.
**If you have any info that they will be working on PB Systems after the LCU I would love to do some reading, please post a link!! **
Deep Terror Nami1 votesIFS is incredibly slow, so unless you have some metric on how its faster or how its more accurate you are just making unsubstantiated claims.
The Tribunal took weeks or even months before a case that was already prepared was able to be processed as it waited on review. The IFS does it within 5 minutes of the case being triggered.
Edit: sry preoccupied, I will respond to more in a bit.
This can be faster this can be more accurate
You seem to be misinformed about what the IFS actually is. It reviews cases, it doesn't build or trigger them. Reports, the same exact ones that were used to build Tribunal cases, are the ones that build and trigger the reviews.
There are plenty of metrics on the automated system for CHAT TOXICITY but I am yet to see ANY for INTENTIONAL FEEDING
By "metrics" do you simply mean "people posting their logs on the boards"? Because if you spend much time reading PB&M posts you will see intentional feeding bans almost daily; however there will obviously be much fewer posts about inting bans than chat offense bans because they are A) far less common of an offense, and B) the very fact that it's intentional means that the player almost assuredly knows they were in the wrong, and is very unlikely to come crying about a ban for it.
Actual trolls who are being a little bit smarter than walking down the lane, well there is no automated system so
Intentional Feeder Detection is a relatively new system and it is already notoriously difficult to prove the malicious intent even in a manual review. I will absolutely agree with you that it can be better, and so would Riot; I recommend you stay tuned for (updates to the player behavior systems](http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/02/ask-riot-where-is-butchers-bridge/). It's also important to note that manual reviews to still happen random to ensure accuracy of the systems, and targeted for fringe cases like people intentionally trying to avoid detection; the system is a learning one, which improves through accurate reports from the community.
In the end, people say they want the Tribunal, but refuse to accept that it was inconsistent and god awful slow.
Revelstoke1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jtQsEcEb,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-22T04:51:08.450+0000)
or how its more accurate you are just making unsubstantiated claims.
The Tribunal took weeks or even months before a case that was already prepared was able to be processed as it waited on review. The IFS does it within 5 minutes of the case being triggered.
Edit: sry preoccupied, I will respond to more in a bit.
You seem to be misinformed about what the IFS actually is. It reviews cases, it doesn't build or trigger them. Reports, the same exact ones that were used to build Tribunal cases, are the ones that build and trigger the reviews.
Riiight, so its no better than the triberunal voting system, and as can be shown, I've seen 50+ games of trolling, I've seen people "testing" the system by trolling for two weeks, with no action taken.
You seem to have some unsubstantiated idea that its faster or more accurate, the data is still sourced from players, so its no more accurate, unless your saying its waiting until theres a overwhelming number of reports (which seems to be the case) hence, its no faster....
but I am yet to see ANY for INTENTIONAL FEEDING
By "metrics" do you simply mean "people posting their logs on the boards"? Because if you spend much time reading PB&M posts you will see intentional feeding bans almost daily; however there will obviously be much fewer posts about inting bans than chat offense bans because they are A) far less common of an offense, and B) the very fact that it's intentional means that the player almost assuredly knows they were in the wrong, and is very unlikely to come crying about a ban for it. well there is no automated system so
I'm talking about metrics comparing Tribunal to the current IF system. Forum posts are not relevant for comparing the speed or accuracy of the systems.
Less common? You seem to have ignored that there is no system to detect trolls whereas there is a system to detect poor behaviour in chat.
You know the other thing you will see, and you see WAY more of it than people contesting ban's? Its people asking Riot to DO SOMETHING ABOUT FEEDERS AND TROLLS.
Intentional Feeder Detection is a relatively new system and it is already notoriously difficult to prove the malicious intent even in a manual review. I will absolutely agree with you that it can be better, and so would Riot;
In the end, people say they want the Tribunal, but refuse to accept that it was inconsistent and god awful slow.
New? as in Nearly two years old?? or over 14 months since it was upgraded in any way?
Also I reject your claim its "notoriously difficult" 20 seconds of watching another player;
Follow the jungler around and take his farm. Start a fight then walk under turrets. Eat another player and spit him into the enemy team(tahm) Wall off half the team and run away during teamfights (anivia) Etc etc etc.
These are really easy to spot for a person, and in my experience most trolls also try to stir up things in chat which helps clear up if their actions are intentional.
Humans using a tribunal system can spot this behaviour easily.
I recommend you stay tuned for (updates to the player behavior systems](http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/02/ask-riot-where-is-butchers-bridge/). It's also important to note that manual reviews to still happen random to ensure accuracy of the systems, and targeted for fringe cases like people intentionally trying to avoid detection; the system is a learning one, which improves through accurate reports from the community.
Ahahhaha, ahhahhahah gold.
Sorry but..
Stay tuned, I've been tuned for 14 months brother.
The only news in that time is confirmation they took people from PB projects to move them onto LCU and the release of the remake system.
Thats it.
To quote the article you linked - "We don’t have immediate plans to address champ select trolls."
Stay tuned.. man that some pro-riot bias you have going on there.. :)
We don't have a faster or more accurate system, we have one that cannot detect or discern when people are trolling, is very slow in triggering a review of feeders and a company that some people seem willing to give a free pass to the fact they have not done and are not doing anything about it
PS. If you have any info that they will be working on PB Systems after the LCU I would love to do see that, please post a link!!
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Magical Player1 votesThe fuck it does lmao nerd get out of your moms basement and get a life
Player Behavior and Moderation. -people post their chat logs if they question why they were punished for some reason
Confused as to why you think this board doesn't exist because of the report feature
scazzman1 votesonly for chat
Kei1431 votesit works, they just do a horrible job in telling you its working.
DarïanEX1 votesGet used to it. League is a shit game and youre playing it. Your hands are covered with shit now :3
CodyBear 1 votesIt doesn't work anymore lol. Just a placebo button. That's why people are taking advantage of afking and intentionally feeding.
