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High SchooI DxD·Apr 16, 2017·1 votes·718 views

why is swearing and toxic bannable when there is a fat mute button? i get more toxicity in this game then DotA 2 (and there is like 2 rules in dota, chat restrictions is like half of one) toxicity only works on toxic people, because toxic people need to rebuttal. Non-toxic people just mute or tell them to stfu and then mute. i've always been generally curious because i've seen some friends be stupidy mean to some people but remain unpunished, so whats the point in this system? riot states that like 0.02% or 0.002% of all players get banned because of being toxic, but i think its just that many people get caught being toxic.

15 Comments

SarutobiApr 16, 20175 votes

The mute button is there to stop the problem right then and there. The report is there so people dont have to put up with them in the future (assuming they are punished) Seriously this has been said time and time again. The mute button isnt there to justify harassing your teammates. Riot assumes everyone can be civil when playing a game. It is not their fault you cannot have any sense of control!

High SchooI DxDApr 16, 20171 votes

Thanks for the logical reply first of all. But it still does not solve the problem of wide scale toxicity. I have reported sooooo many people flaming me because I accidentally fed, but never got the notification. Like unbelievably how many toxic people that swear at me and call me names because i did bad. They rely on their players to report, but I've probably gotten two notifications out of a couple hundred. A lot of players have down right quit just because they rebuttal a toxic player and get themselves banned for toxicity, but the other player gets away with no punishment. Riot will never control toxicity unless they do something with the chat options. There is too many toxic people. Why would riot assume people are civil? The mute button is there to make the toxic players go away, because they are inevitable. They are unavoidable and will happen once every few games. Reporting one doesn't mean you wont see any more for the rest of your life, it will just make that player one game less of being toxic.

Deep Terror NamiApr 16, 20177 votes

You only receive the notification when your report triggers a punishment from that game. Even if this does not happen immediately, your accurate reports will count against them so that should they form a continuous habit of this behavior they may be punished later (most negative behavior doesn't warrant a punishment from one game).

BeatzBoyFTWApr 16, 20174 votes

Because if toxic people can't shut themselves up, then they deserved to be punished. Even victims of these toxic players can mute them & then report them afterwards.

High SchooI DxDApr 16, 20171 votes

they deserved to be punished because they are mad? yes, victims can mute people, which is what half my point was...but i'm willing to guess you down voted because you're ignorant, so whatever :^)

BeatzBoyFTWApr 16, 20174 votes

they deserved to be punished because they are mad? yes, victims can mute people, which is what half my point was..

Just because League has a Mute button, does not mean that toxic people has all the free rights to whine/complain/insult as much as they want with no consequences. Having a Mute button means that toxic people should know when to limit their toxicity if they do not want to be punished.

but i'm willing to guess you down voted because you're ignorant, so whatever :^)

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I didn't even touch the downvote, but since you want it so much, let me give you a -3 then.

[zombie-brand-facepalm] [zombie-brand-clap]

High SchooI DxDApr 16, 20171 votes

Just because League has a Mute button, does not mean that toxic people has all the free rights to whine/complain/insult as much as they want with no consequences

okay...but...why not? what is a mute button for then? aesthetics? talk some sense into them, if they are not sensing properly, mute them lmao. you sound like one who has to deal with getting yelled at a lot but instead of muting you sit there and suck your thumb, waiting for that juicy report button.

Having a Mute button means that toxic people should know when to limit their toxicity if they do not want to be punished.

players don't know when you muted them so they shouldn't or wouldn't know anything about their limits
they do not care about being punished at the moment, they are mad
this just doesn't make sense lmao, having a mute button doesn't 'mean' anything other then to mute the annoying person.

I didn't even touch the downvote, but since you want it so much, let me give you a -3 then.

well even if you weren't irked then, you're irked now ;^)

BeatzBoyFTWApr 16, 20173 votes

okay...but...why not? what is a mute button for then? aesthetics? talk some sense into them, if they are not sensing properly, mute them lmao. you sound like one who has to deal with getting yelled at a lot but instead of muting you sit there and suck your thumb, waiting for that juicy report button.

Mute button is something for victims to rid of the annoyance toxic people spews at them. Why would the victims want to stoop at their level simply by talking more crap back? What would it solve anyway?

players don't know when you muted them so they shouldn't or wouldn't know anything about their limits

It's common sense. Once the victims stop replying out of the blue, there's your hint, or they can just straightly state "muted".

they do not care about being punished at the moment, they are mad

If they don't care about being punished, why do they even bother making a "I got chat restricted/suspended/permaban" thread?

this just doesn't make sense lmao, having a mute button doesn't 'mean' anything other then to mute the annoying person.

Exactly. The victim won't have to hear any more crap, but it also doesn't mean that the annoying person gets to walk away scot-free. Reports will still be an option depending on how much crap the toxic person has been spewing out.

well even if you weren't irked then, you're irked now ;^)

That's your opinion. I mean you're one of those rare people who takes upvotes/downvotes seriously.

High SchooI DxDApr 16, 20171 votes

Why would the victims want to stoop at their level simply by talking more crap back?

followed by the

It's common sense. Once the victims stop replying out of the blue, there's your hint

If they don't care about being punished, why do they even bother making a "I got chat restricted/suspended/permaban" thread?

i said at the moment. They are enraged and do not care about consequences because they are mad. Everybody gets mad. Banning people because they are mad doesn't make sense.

The victim won't have to hear any more crap, but it also doesn't mean that the annoying person gets to walk away scot-free. Reports will still be an option depending on how much crap the toxic person has been spewing out.

implying every annoying person deserves ban

That's your opinion. I mean you're one of those rare people who takes upvotes/downvotes seriously.

of course they are serious, it shows how ignorant people are lmao. just downvote because I insult poor riot games. Just downvote and leave.

EvilDustManApr 16, 20173 votes

People forget that just because someone was toxic in your game doesn't mean that person is regularly toxic.

High SchooI DxDApr 16, 20171 votes

Most people get mad at least once while they play league over a long time, causing them to flame. Toxicity cant be measured like we think it can by saying "X percent of all players are toxic" because everybody gets mad and will flame. This is why we should depend on our mute button more then our report button.

KarunamonApr 16, 20171 votes

Most people get mad at least once while they play league over a long time, causing them to flame

Judging by the stats Riot has shared a few times, most people can exercise the self control necessary to not flame into the chat box. Riot doesn't care if you yell IRL, pound your desk, or scream. (At least not until you're in LCS..)

They care that you're forcing 4-9 other people to deal with it in their back yard.

scazzmanApr 16, 20171 votes

its because the system is designed to work around the majority. and the people who actually report dont report people for being toxic. they report them for being toxic and having a bad score

High SchooI DxDApr 16, 20171 votes

if we are thinking about this statistically, toxic people usually get mad at the players that are not doing so well. Is it really justified to abuse the report somebody just because somebody was having a bad game? If thats the case, then the toxic player has just the right to report back.

nerak23Apr 16, 20171 votes

Tigyr2G (NA) - about 2 hours ago Most people get mad at least once while they play league over a long time, causing them to flame.

I never flame in-game, EVER ! I will ask for people to stop being Jerks but I do so in a nice way, I don't use "Mute" either. It isn't because I don't get frustrated sometimes though. I don't flame because it does no good. In you opining statement you say "toxicity only works on toxic people, because toxic people need to rebuttal."

Isn't this what you are discussing right now? The mute button is Not a "I can say whatever I want button" because others can mute me.

Let me just make it easy, don't say rude crap in-game and don't break the very simple rules and then players won't get the punishment or banns.

I am curious what exactly you are asking or complaining about? Are you punished, or is this something you are asking to understand the rules, Do you need to know why their is a Mute button or punishments? We can help with those questions. I will try at least.