Please read this log and tell me why i deserve a 10 game mute

Otzy·Mar 25, 2018·1 votes·698 views

sadly i can only access what i said, not what they said. Im a jungler, team was hard core flaming me for not gaking, when all 3 lanes were losing pretty hard, bot legit fed 5+ kills in the first few minutes of the game. Im not going to gank a lane that can kill us 2v1. So Yes I was negative, but i was also stating the truth? If a lane is 0/5 and keeps aggressing fights without wards, saying that they're feeding isnt that nice, but it is objectively true. Last part of the chat was in all chat, after i muted the whole team. Also I did ask for garen to be reported because he griefed and afked in fountain while still typing last 10 minutes of the game. Not illogical to ask for people like that to be removed from my future queves. Bot was also a duo, so im sure they both reported me, top probably did too, but they were just toxic, and i dont see what i did thats report worthy as far as communication goes. Maybe im just too full of myself? Idk

Could I have handled this better, for sure! I should have just ignored everyone and mute alled off the get go.

ps, first few lines someone asked about favorite pokemon lol.

log: "Game 1 Otzy: lickitung Otzy: or lickitongue? idk anymore Otzy: i only know like the old school shit Otzy: ty Otzy: top flash Otzy: gj Otzy: soon Otzy: eh worth Otzy: janna has to move up with us Otzy: play safe Otzy: and farm Otzy: dont aggro at all Otzy: youre so behind Otzy: stop pinging at me like we can fight lol Otzy: bot Otzy: go farm Otzy: stop fighting Otzy: you guys are feeding Otzy: not if people keep trying to skirmish with 1/3 their cs Otzy: ? Otzy: no one was there Otzy: easy kill if people are there Otzy: youre alone Otzy: were in jungle Otzy: wake uop Otzy: definitely the guy whos 1/4, not 4/2 Otzy: 1/5* Otzy: wc Otzy: inner team conflict Otzy: ? Otzy: what did you want me to do there Otzy: it was 2v45 Otzy: 4* Otzy: im just gonna mute all, you guys have no game sense Otzy: garen just decided to afk -.- Otzy: should be over soon lol Otzy: ik and my teams been flaming me all game cuz i cant come when they feed Otzy: i mean 50% of all games are lost, i dont get why people have such toxic attitudes while losing Otzy: youll never enjoy this game Otzy: gg report garen plz"

17 Comments

VenompawMar 25, 20182 votes

I don't think a chat restriction is appropriate in this case.

KanzlerMar 25, 20181 votes

Game 2 and 3?

ModThe DjinnMar 25, 20181 votes

{quoted} Otzy: you guys are feeding Otzy: not if people keep trying to skirmish with 1/3 their cs Otzy: definitely the guy whos 1/4, not 4/2 Otzy: 1/5* Otzy: im just gonna mute all, you guys have no game sense Otzy: garen just decided to afk -.- Otzy: ik and my teams been flaming me all game cuz i cant come when they feed

So a 10-game chat restriction is the lowest penalty Riot has, and it's likely to tell you that reminding people how poorly they're doing, commenting negatively on their game sense, and accusing them of flaming/feeding isn't appropriate. Even if they ARE doing all those things, it just makes the environment worse when you talk about it like that.

OtzyMar 25, 20181 votes

i feel like if its in response to them asking me why we shouldnt fight its justified though. granted thats on my word and with no chat logs, so i guess take it for what its worth lol.

I do agree with you though based on whats shown.

ModThe DjinnMar 25, 20184 votes

{quoted}i feel like if its in response to them asking me why we shouldnt fight its justified though.

Observe the two ways do do this, assuming the context is "who will win."

"definitely the guy whos 1/4, not 4/2"

"He's just too far ahead right now."

The former puts the onus on the ally being behind, and subtly implies their score is bad. The latter just acknowledges that an enemy is scary, without placing blame on who, how, or why.

OtzyMar 25, 20181 votes

while i definitely agree with you that there are tons of nice things to do, my question is was this mean enough to justify punishment? If the goal of the game is to treat everyone like a snowflake, in such that they cant handle objective facts that you just have to hit tab to see, then this punishment meets that purpose. But imo theirs a difference between being punishably mean and being blunt. If life was regulated like this, no one would talk ever lmao.

ModThe DjinnMar 25, 20181 votes

{quoted}while i definitely agree with you that there are tons of nice things to do, my question is was this mean enough to justify punishment?

If you got punished for this, it likely means there was a bit of a trend in your behavior.

But imo theirs a difference between being punishably mean and being blunt. If life was regulated like this, no one would talk ever lmao.

"He's ahead, don't fight him" is blunt. It's direct and to the point. So is "You can't fight him until you farm more." "You're 1/4, stop fighting" is equally blunt, but also belittling. You can be blunt and direct all day without belittling anyone else.

OtzyMar 25, 20181 votes

I was honor level 4 before this, and get honored most games. I think I was just reported by 3 griefers and an automatic bot muted me, no person. Because it happened almost immediately after this game. So no I dont think its due to a trend whatsoever.

ModThe DjinnMar 25, 20181 votes

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I was honor level 4 before this, and get honored most games. I think I was just reported by 3 griefers and an automatic bot muted me, no person. Because it happened almost immediately after this game. So no I dont think its due to a trend whatsoever.

The honor system and the report system are entirely separate, and it's possible you had enough reports against you (despite the honor) that the system, upon identifying this behavior, felt it appropriate to give you a warning.

OtzyMar 25, 20181 votes

well i agree with all your points but still dont think its worthy of a mute ahaha. but thanks for stating your views so well and presenting some new info!

GeauxxMar 25, 20181 votes

If you want to use "feel like it's in response"

Then you need to work on your wording.

also "you guys have no game sense" has no use at any point other than to talk down on someone.

As far as getting the chat restrict... i would HAVE to assume that you mildly harass/insult teammates on a consistent basis, be happy most people skip straight past this step and get a 25chat/14 day ban.

OtzyMar 25, 20181 votes

GeauxxMar 26, 20181 votes

being honored most games is a weak argument, considering most people get honors just for doing the best in the game, while at the same time can be the most toxic person ever.

DolynaMar 25, 20181 votes

It's a bit negative, but I certainly wouldn't have reported you. It seems like something that would need a number of other cases of similar behavior to (maybe) warrant a chat ban.

But don't ask for reports. That's useless.

OtzyMar 25, 20181 votes

yeah i only ask when its a blatant afk, as that just makes the game unwinnable. idc what people say lol, but if i cant win a game by default, i ask

DolynaMar 25, 20181 votes

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yeah i only ask when its a blatant afk, as that just makes the game unwinnable. idc what people say lol, but if i cant win a game by default, i ask

There's no point in asking for reports, because the other reports are just discarded. Only one report triggers the system to check the player's logs.

OtzyMar 25, 20181 votes

ah didnt know this, thanks!