The Issue with Joining a Premade Team of 3 or 4.

wren620··1 votes·2,278 views

After smurfing on my new account, I came across a problem that occurs the most on normal matches, and occasionally, on ranked matches. I sometimes run into (toxic)premade teams of 3 or 4. Now this problem happens mostly on normal matches because of the role call system.

     For example, in one game i called top as Renekton; but being in a premade team, someone apparently already has that role, even though they did not call it. Then, entering the game, he would call come top, and take all my farm, forcing me to move to jungle without smite. I played the whole game as jungle Renekton, and ended up losing. My score ended up being 1/8/3. I'm pretty sure the whole (premade) team reported me for trolling and going jungle without smite, because i got put into a queue  shortly afterwards. 

     I thought that was pretty unfair for me, because I got put into a Queue just because 4 people reported me. I don't know whether this happened because of the amount of people that reported me, or if Riot actually thought i was trolling. I personally believe that riot will believe in reports more if more people did it, as opposed to if only one person reported it. 

     Now I played a lot of games with premade teams of 3 to 4, rarely to my enjoyment. This causes a lot of problems such as a whole team harassing the player, or like the one i faced, where the whole team was able to get the player wrongfully reported.

    There could be many solutions to this, like adding the lane selection to normal games so that you get the lane you want even if you cant call it fast. Or a way to ask the player if they feel comfortable being in a premade team. 

    Now here is the question: What is the best way to fix this, or should Riot even do something about this? Please share below. Also, if you have had similar experiences, I am open to hear it. If you are opposed to anything I said, I would love to hear that as well.

    Finally i would like to state that I am not opposed to premade matches, and i myself love playing with my friends and boosting them, however, we let players who call first get the lane they want, and let them have fun when playing with us. I just do not like when the other player on the team feels uncomfortable, pressured, harassed or left out during the game due to premade games.

15 Comments

GatekeeperTDS6 votes

Are you talking about blind pick?

Unfortuantely, there are no rules for lanes in blind pick. You could have 5 people go top.

like adding the lane selection to normal games

There is a game mode that does this already - draft.

wren6201 votes

Yeah I meant blind pick, which lower elo or low level players play more. i dislike draft pick because you can ban champs, and the champ you want to play might be banned. Also the draft in blind pick thing was only one way to solve the issue, and i am open to other suggestions

wren6202 votes

the main issue i wanted to address here is that a lot of times players feel left out or even harassed when joining premade teams, and I feel premade teams should be more respectful to the person outside of the group.

GatekeeperTDS2 votes

premade teams should be more respectful

Everyone should be respectful. That does not, however, mean that anyone is entitled to get their way in blind pick.

wren6201 votes

I dont think players should always get their way either. However, if you call a role before someone else, it is rightfully yours. Everyone should call their role in the pregame lobby, and many dont get what they want. When a there is a premade team, however, the team might have already called roles before they accept the game, giving the other player no chance. What im saying is even a premade team should have every individual call their own role in the pregame lobby.

rujitra2 votes

I do think there's a place for Riot to maybe add more modes. There's no reason that we have to have a "one size fits all" normal mode. I feel that having a normal "solo queue" - with literally no duos whatsoever - would be an option. They also could have a normal "blind pick, role preferences/calling honored". All this would take is to have a time delay from when lobby started until when role calling was "enabled" to ensure people with lesser computing resources aren't screwed by loading in later.

Yes, this would make normal queue times a bit longer for those not participating in these queues. But normal queue times are pretty short as it is in lower MMRs especially, and I doubt higher MMR players particularly care enough. I don't see any reason that Riot can't expand normal to be beyond "blind" and "draft" pick games - but it may very well be prohibitive on queue times.

wren6201 votes

That is a great Idea! Even though queues would would get longer, I think this would be a great way to go. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

rujitra2 votes

This may be something you could start a thread about on either Gameplay or General Discussion boards to get more focused opinions from other players!

wren6201 votes

Due to the reception im getting, i think ill just leave discussions here. Thanks for the suggestion tho.

GatekeeperTDS2 votes

if you call a role before someone else, it is rightfully yours.

Unfortunately, the rules of the game don't agree with you. Nobody is entitled to anything specific in blind pick.

wren6201 votes

thats why i agree with rujitra and think there should be a new game mode where people get to play the champ they want without it getting banned, but also playing the lane they want.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Stop playing blind pick if you have an intended role. Its anything goes in blind pick.

wren6201 votes

Well what if you wanted to play a champ in ranked or draft, but the champ got banned? Yasuo and Zed players can play blind pick so that their champ doesnt get banned. I think riot should add a mode where you can pick your role, but no champ gets banned.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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Well what if you wanted to play a champ in ranked or draft, but the champ got banned? Yasuo and Zed players can play blind pick so that their champ doesnt get banned. I think riot should add a mode where you can pick your role, but no champ gets banned.

Then you have to accept that its a team game, and when playing with teams, you dont always get the exact position and champion you want. Thats just my personal opinion though. It is just a video game, after all. If they implemented a game mode to satisfy all your needs, I would have no problem with it. But even if there was a draft mode without bans, you could still get autofilled. You could still get your secondary. Theres never a guarantee that youre gonna get everything you wanted your way.

wren6201 votes

Well when you look at it that way, I do agree with you. Playing a video game as a team shouldn’t satisfy everyone’s needs. There is some things one has to sacrifice. Personally, I’m comfortable with top or mid, or X out of the lobby but enter a queue. I do feel like they need to make the queue for Exiting the lobby shorter tho.

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