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XxLolzftwxX··35 votes·4,560 views

Why's Tyler still banned? I may sound like a Tyler 1 fanboy but, he has actually changed for the better even after those 24 banned. (Please note that some of his accounts were banned just because he was indefinitely banned) Also, I would like to encourage you that do not like him to provide criticism instead of saying: "Tyler 1 fanboy he has no place in the league community LOL". Don't be toxic for disagreeing with someone's opinion. I want to see what everyone thinks of that situation (Riot, Tyler 1 fans, those that dislike Tyler etc.)

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Oleandervine18 votes

Someone who stole a car and went to jail got punished. If he'd never stolen another car again, I would have said that he was reformed. HOWEVER, If he then went on to steal another 20 cars and went to jail after each one, and THEN claimed he was reformed and wouldn't steal a car again, I'd call it horseshit.

Tyler1 is the same way. If he had claimed he was reformed after getting 1, or even 2 accounts banned, sure, I might have believed him. But to repetitively get more accounts banned, up into the double digits, AND to do it while streaming is just uncalled for and shows everyone how he truly is. He may claim reform now (or at least his rabid fan boys do), but everyone thinks it's nothing but a steaming pile of shit. He's cried wolf too many times, that there's no one left to believe him.

Fargo7912 votes

Why do people think he needs ANOTHER chance?? how many accounts has he had banned?? someone said 24 earlier in this thread.. does this seem like a person whom has learned their lesson?? no... i say go 1 step further and start banning his IP address from their server... its streamers like him that makes the sheep think its ok to flame and be toxic in this game.. sure he is a good player.. but we dont need his shit in this community..

Smitty Manjensen9 votes

Didn't he throw a tantrum in his last video about quitting LoL? Kinda showing us he actually didn't change, but just acted that way to get unbanned.

Fargo799 votes

sorry but i dont feel he needs "another Chance" if he has been banned 24 times already... regardless if he has reformed himself.. he burnt his bridges about 22 bans ago.. i could careless that he is entertaining.. he sets a bad example for others in the community.. if Riot unbans him it also opens the door for other players as well who are just as or even more toxic for the game to come back.. sorry i dont think he needs a 25th chance to prove his worth to the community.. he can go stream and talk his talk in CS:GO or COD..

RlP K0BE8 votes

Those who say he hasn't changed simply do not watch him at all. He has changed A LOT but there are still things he needs to work on. I still think he should be unbanned though. The guy got honor 5 and a lot of well known streamer/names such as Dyrus, MikeYeung, and VoyBoy have all said he's changed for the better.

I also think it's a little sick how Riot handle him. He was banned right before reaching Masters and he was banned right before reaching challenger very recently. This may be coincidence but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

As a huge fan of his I would love to see him unbanned but like i said he still needs to work on some things. He did show some flashes of toxicity like spam pinging/passive aggressiveness which isn't anything crazy but I think he needs to be on his absolute best behavior before getting his ban lifted.

UnboundHades8 votes

it doesnt matter how good he is hes a toxic pile of trash that got over 20 chances and wasted them all and please dont try to say hes changed he recently got a ban due to being toxic on an account then they found out it was his

Jet Sett2 votes

Source?

UnboundHades8 votes

search phreak stream tyler 1 ban

Bob the Toastr8 votes

He had plenty of chances to reform and he threw all of them away. The worst part about him IMO isn't his individual toxicity, it's the fact that it encourages his fans and followers to be toxic as well. It's like the saying 'if you want to kill a snake you have to cut of it's head'. Not saying that he is the root of ALL toxicity, just that he is a major contributor.

Also, our society has recognized that there are some people who mess up so badly that they don't get the chance to reform: in the form of life sentences or capital punishment. Riot has the right to do similarly as they feel is necessary to try to keep their community as wholesome as possible.

ImTheSideKick8 votes

indefinitely banned

he had like 24 chances and blew them all

I believe in a second and rarely a third but are we really going to give him a 25th chance? I hope not

Rykagnar7 votes

Lol, this is funny. Just posted something on this and got 3 downvotes...hopefully this thread will stay alive. I, personally, am not really a "fan" of Tyler1, but I do enjoy his content. I believe he has changed quite a bit since his permabans, and I do think Riot should maybe allow him a second chance. However, if they don't, it's ultimately their decision and fine with me either way.

Dextix LT4 votes

Second chance? He had OVER 20!

Garekk7 votes

He's still banned because he was a toxic piece of trash who went out of his way to troll games on 15+ accounts despite numerous temp bans, warnings, and chances to redeem himself. He never improved, he always did what he had been doing on his previous accounts, and when Riot flat out nuked his ability to play the game at any point from now on he went on a psycho rampage and had his fanbase blow up Riot's messageboards demanding he be unbanned, which only made them more determined not to.

Stop supporting this annoying manchild, please. He's an idiot, an asshole, and doesn't deserve to be paid attention to, let alone be paid for being a degenerate. He's like the lowest brow entertainment imaginable, and that's taking Family Guy and Larry the Cable Guy into account. He's had numerous chances to reform and didnt do it, now he's being punished for it. If he didnt want the punishment to be permanent then he should have reformed any one of the dozen times he was told to before he got shut down forever. Good riddance to that asshole.

Dukues3 votes

I mean... your not wrong but it's not that simple. Calling the dude manchild and names is no better than him raging at people. He may be immature.... but hell most of society these days are. I sound like a fanboy, which is strange because a year ago I felt the same way you do. At this point I am more neutral and realize why people enjoy watching him although I will admit I find it difficult to watch his stream and usually can only watch parts of his Youtube videos. But there are some entertaining moments for sure. But also moments where he sounds like a complete dick. The dude definitely not perfect but he also not as bad as you described.

Garekk6 votes

He's worse than I described. He had a literal "Int List" of names of players who had pissed him off that he would watch for, and if they ever got in a game with him he would immediately feed until his team lost.

He trash talked people nonstop, insulting and swearing at them for such horrible infractions as "Not fighting with me" when he dove into a 1v4 or threw a fit when his supports didnt buy the item he wanted as a first buy.

The League community is better off without garbage like him. There is no benefit to letting him come back. He's an asshole who had numerous chances to change his ways and didnt, and now he's paying the price.

Automated Riven6 votes

When someone does something wrong and are extended a punishment there is no reason to ever revert the punishment. So what if tyler1 reformed. If he had done it after the other 20 something perma banns then he would still be able to play. There is no reason for riot to revert the lifetime ban because what he did was unacceptable. Welcome to life. where doing shit has consequesnses

Firethorn5 votes

{quoted}

I may sound like a Tyler 1 fanboy but, he has actually changed for the better even after those 24 banned. (Please note that some of his accounts were banned just because he was indefinitely banned)

I feel like you kind of said it yourself. He has already been given multiple chances and chose to ignore them. I will admit he seems less toxic now, but I dunno... kind of feel like he should've learned his lesson earlier

Lost R5 votes

If you don't get it by now, then you will never get it.

Shroom Merchant5 votes

anothery tyler1 fanboy wanting him unbanned just checked his last stream counted like 1090 f bombs keep him in permaban prison

Dextix LT2 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/5UjVyop3-tyler1-quits-league

Check this thread, looking at some of the latest comments (Page 5-7) fanboys are treating him like he is some kind of hero, some kind of messiah that was wrongly punished.

How far up Tylers ass do you have to be to not see his bullshit?

x Royal Solo x5 votes

I saw his stream maybe a week ago, he hasn't changed at all.

Just stop

Primaquarius4 votes

Tyler1 is a solid ADC when hes not going insane

But pretty much everyone is just tired of seeing these threads

MaroModo4 votes

I recently checked out a few of his videos to what the fuss is about. He is funny at times but God he can be toxic. The kicker is if he would get his shit together stop freaking out for show and promoting the behavior I would bet riot removes his indefinite ban but that would also be bad for business for him. Sooo what's more important the game he claims he loves so much or some loss in revenue

I Main Swain4 votes

i dont care at all really, but i think they should leave it banned out of principle. a permanent ban is a permanent ban. there are many opportunities to change and warnings before the permaban comes. theres the reason its called a permanent ban and not a "until you say youre reformed" ban. they should stick to the books

Stars Shaper4 votes

My opinion is that these kind of threads shouldn't even exist.

Any1 defending him is defending a behavior that costed him several permanent bans before he got the indefinite one, a behavior that no1 in the gaming community should have, a behavior that shouldn't have followers and once identified should be banned by all team based games. He doesn't deserve any kind of visibility. threads talking about him should be insta deleted because it's like writing tons and tons of threads about any Mr X that gets permabanned and then comes ot the boards whining for his ban.

Just let it die.

DrCyanide3 votes

Last we heard from Riot (via Phreak's stream), Tyler1 had improved, and they recognized that, but he hadn't quite improved enough at that point and there were still some accounts he was playing on where he slipped up a few times. That was a few months ago, so he might have improved more since then, but I really think that's something that needs to be determined by someone who can see all the info, not just someone with what Tyler1 chooses to share.

Dextix LT3 votes

20+ bans. Riot had enough and PERSONALLY permabanned him, not account, but HIM. That is it. Argument over. He has no place in league, at all. There is no need for more critisism. Someone who manages to get permabanned 20+ times does not deserve to play ANY online game EVER.

Plus, it is not about him, it is about him encouraging others to do such bullshit. Just look at this thread itself, you have fanboys that think he is some kind of hero! REALLY!

Colgate Gator3 votes

{quoted}

Why's Tyler still banned? I may sound like a Tyler 1 fanboy but, he has actually changed for the better even after those 24 banned.

If you can't see why after reading your own sentence, Jesus would come from your front door and still wouldn't be able to help you.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

Stop clogging up the boards with discussions about Tyler1. You're beating a dead horse, the topic is exhausted. And our patience is too.

We.

Don't.

Care.

PinkSalt1 votes

If you don't care, why'd you bother to post? Ahh, the irony. See people do care, hence the comments, so maybe leave and find a post you do like instead of being the scum of this post.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Wow, didn't think I would have to clarify.

I don't care about Tyler1, and I'm sick of seeing people post about him on the boards. The boards exist for purposes much more valuable than trying to appeal a ban for a player who has earned 24 bans already.

My point is that people should stop wasting space with posts about Tyler1. The issue is dead. Over and done. Stop wasting everyone's time.

PinkSalt1 votes

The boards exist for people to discuss things, not all of them aren't going to be topics you like and They aren't meant to be catered around your liking so suck it up and get the hell off this post if you don't like It, simple.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Alright then. I was in the wrong here. My apologies.

But I still don't understand why people feel the need to discuss this further. The topic really has been exhaustively discussed. What is there left to talk about? Hasn't it already been settled?

PinkSalt1 votes

Thank you for understanding.

I personally don't like Tyler1 myself, but he's still very popular so maybe people want to watch him be toxic as all hell in league games again, who knows man.

AriCei1 votes

Same reason they went off on a vendetta against Monte- they will never admit mistakes, and they want everyone to be little sheepies following all their rules. Which is fine until you have fascist rules.

UnboundHades10 votes

yea because getting banned over 20 times due to toxic is riots fault not like hes one of the most toxic players in the game or anything close to that

Dextix LT4 votes

Yes, not allowing feeding and raging is really fascist of Riot. /s

AriCei1 votes

"Same reason they went off on a vendetta against Monte- they will never admit mistakes"

So what you said actually had nothing to do with what I said... why even bother responding with this generic yesman stuff then? Reply to someone else's comment with a point that makes sense.

Dextix LT2 votes

How nice to quote the 1/3 of your sentence and ommit the rest of it. My sentence is a response to your statement, and it has everything to do with it. If you lack comprehension, that is not my problem.

AriCei1 votes

"Same reason they went off on a vendetta against Monte- they will never admit mistakes, and they want everyone to be little sheepies following all their rules. Which is fine until you have fascist rules."

Point still stands. Sorry you have to resort to snide attacks to make a "point".

Since you seem to lack comprehension, I'll lay it out for you.

Riot is fascist. They quell all forms of dissent and disagreement by silencing them and ignoring it ever happened. You see, you can disagree and have a discussion about it, but Riot isn't into that.

My statement wasn't about "not allowing feeding and raging is really fascist of Riot", because they do allow this, and their half-assed excuse for a "reform" system, isn't that, it just promotes the most toxic to keep coming back instead of punishing based on the crime.

See some other posts of mine if you are actually curious to learn more- good day.

Dextix LT2 votes

Tell me, do you know what fascism really is? Because you seem to throw that word around a lot without really knowing what it is.

Fascism, in its most simple definition is the belief of absolute controll of the people.

You say that Riot quells all forms of dissent, yet every day on these forums you can see dissent, and noone getting silenced. Ignoring a person, is not a control of anything, it is not fascist.

And again, you are factually incorrect. Riot does not allow feeding OR raging. There are RULES against that. By definition, they do not allow people to commit these actions otherwise they will face punishment.

I do not really have to resort to snide attacks, jsut because your arguments are so shallow, unsupported and even factually incorrect. Anyone could refute the things you just said, like i did.

AriCei1 votes

That doesn't refute anything. You strawmanned my analogy of the way Riot deals with the problem to fascism. The way they deal with it, is pretty fascist. Yes I understand what fascism is.

Anyways, this is way beyond the scope of my original point which was that the way riot handles people who don't agree with their strange 1 sided ideals, is by silencing and removing them. Like what happened with Monte and his teams, they targeted a guy because they didn't like him, not because he broke any magic rules. Teams are "breaking" those "rules" left and right and they don't do crap because they're all family- the people in charge of the leagues didn't even have any relevant experience.

Dextix LT2 votes

I did not strawman anything. Fascism has a clear definition, you throw that word around like its candy without even knowing what it means. You say you understand it, yet your application of the word leaves a lot to be desired.

How do you deal with someone who break rules and refuses to abide by them? You throw them out or punish them in other ways before that. That is not fascist, that is simple discipline. That is what anyone can do if a guest in their house acts like an ass. That is what parents do when their children do bad things.

The deal with Monte is very vague and making statements of intent is far beyond your ability unless you are a mind reader. You do not know why it happened, noone does besides those who made the decision. What you are doing is speculation. And the reasons they got banned was not over toxicity or feeding (Things that are discussed in this thread) but other.

So again, you are throwing the word "fascism" around with really, no sense behind it and you also conflate SPECULATIONs about a team ban with actual toxicity and feeding in the game + its rules.

If you have Riot and want to rage, just say it instead of trying to justify it in such a stupid manner. Because it is not fascist, not wanting feeders and just around assholes in the game. Just say it. "I want to rage freely in this game and not get banned", because that is what your entire bull here comes down to.

AriCei1 votes

Yeah you aren't capable of properly discussing this :/ Oh well! thanks!

Dextix LT1 votes

So instead of refuting anything you are doing the equivalent of getting beat up and then limping away shouting "I let you win!".

Sigh.... Your reponse would be funny if it was not so pathetic.

AriCei1 votes

Sorry had better things to do than "refute" your "points"..

Dextix LT1 votes

Of course, the good old " I don't have time excuse" that is used by people that lost any argument.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Don't care. He's just a guy. He broke the rules and got perma banned. Technically, he should be able to make a new account and play, just like anyone else.

Automated Riven4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=gXKV4RIW,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-09-20T01:59:06.846+0000)

Don't care. He's just a guy. He broke the rules and got perma banned. Technically, he should be able to make a new account and play, just like anyone else.

No, tyler1 did not only get perma banned. He got multiple accounts. (something around 15-20) perma banned for toxic behavior. He was well known for only playing draven and inting after his first death. After something like 20 perma banned accounts riot finally said that enough was enough and passed the only lifetime ban that league has ever seen. (barring apdo maybe) And any future account that he creates will be banned in sight.

Do i feel bad for the guy? no, he asked for it and deserves it. If he actually had reformed and riot decided to give him a 25th chance? I would be pretty skeptical.

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