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The Riot Ban System is FLAWED, and here is why. ((Discussion on the Auto-Ban System))

Fantom Fox··1 votes·593 views

Hello Summoners, I'm here to talk about the Auto-Ban system and would like to gather thoughts and opinions on it. Recently I have been filled under a ban from Riot's Auto-Ban system due to summoner misconduct involving vulgarity.

I had received a 10-Match Chat Ban, which at the moment I thought was a reasonable punishment, but soon after I truly figured out just how bad this punishment is. Communication is key in a game like League of Legends, a tactical back and forth between Red and Blue teams. If one, or multiple, of those players are silenced by Riot's chat ban function then that only spells trouble for your games. Not only for you, but for your team mates. What Riot fails to understand is that in order to effectively win teams must openly communicate with one another. This punishment is by far worse than banning a player from playing, as this actively works as a BUFF for the ENEMY TEAM. I think it is fair to say that 3 messages is not enough to communicate with your team mates, and it never will be enough. Communication is key to winning in my low Elo, but I'd like to hear from others who have experienced similar things.

16 Comments

Chermorg9 votes

Wait, so you think the punishment is bad because it's making you realize that you should use chat effectively and not to flame others?

Fantom Fox1 votes

It causes harm to not only the banned player, but those he plays with as well is the point im trying to get across.

ModPeriscope4 votes

Well there's risks and benefits to the punishment. You've clearly identified a risk to the punishment; however, the gains are:

  1. Preventing you from being toxic to other teammates again
  2. Giving you an opportunity to view healthy (as well as negative) chat from others
  3. The chance to reform.
Fantom Fox1 votes

Fair enough, there are always negatives and positives to things like this.

Telephone Booth2 votes

I heavily disagree. I mean, ya of course their system is flawed. But I'm silver 2, I rarely talk in game. You don't need lines of chat to win games. You need strategy, game knowledge, and mechanical skill. Strategy is sort of a part of game knowledge and doesn't require discussion to be honest. You can ping, you can read movements, you can follow instead of lead.

Edit: can you believe there are those who argue FOR chat restricts, instead of bans? Just funny how people come to wildly different opinions.

Fantom Fox1 votes

Really? Chat restrictions seem far worse to me. Thanks for the input! I guess I just like to talk a lot.

YerroFever2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fantom Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=fy4TVOP8,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-20T04:45:25.639+0000)

Hello Summoners, I'm here to talk about the Auto-Ban system and would like to gather thoughts and opinions on it. Recently I have been filled under a ban from Riot's Auto-Ban system due to summoner misconduct involving vulgarity.

I had received a 10-Match Chat Ban, which at the moment I thought was a reasonable punishment, but soon after I truly figured out just how bad this punishment is. Communication is key in a game like League of Legends, a tactical back and forth between Red and Blue teams. If one, or multiple, of those players are silenced by Riot's chat ban function then that only spells trouble for your games. Not only for you, but for your team mates. What Riot fails to understand is that in order to effectively win teams must openly communicate with one another. This punishment is by far worse than banning a player from playing, as this actively works as a BUFF for the ENEMY TEAM. I think it is fair to say that 3 messages is not enough to communicate with your team mates, and it never will be enough. Communication is key to winning in my low Elo, but I'd like to hear from others who have experienced similar things.

It's a chat restriction, not a chat ban.

You can talk in those 10 games but you are restricted in the number of messages you can send.

You aren't being silenced, you just are misunderstanding what your punishment is.

Shukr4n1 votes

U were chat banned because you used badly the vital communication system u are telling now. Pings are more than eniugh

Fantom Fox1 votes

In low elo not many players pay attention or even notice pings. Believe me when I say if I could ping, "Can I have that CS?" or "Can you grab a Pink Ward?" I would. Pings are still very limiting.

Telephone Booth3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fantom Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=fy4TVOP8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-03-20T04:58:25.160+0000)

In low elo not many players pay attention or even notice pings. Believe me when I say if I could ping, "Can I have that CS?" or "Can you grab a Pink Ward?" I would. Pings are still very limiting.

So has your win rate drastically decreased since the chat ban?

Fantom Fox1 votes

No it hasn't, but it has made it hard to communicate with other team mates of mine for objective calls besides just spam pinging something.

Bettnachleger2 votes

Wait ... They don't notice the shiny Pings on the screen with a pretty loud sound, but they notice the one small line in the small chatbox in the (mostly) left bottom corner? Sure!

Fantom Fox1 votes

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Wait ... They don't notice the shiny Pings on the screen with a pretty loud sound, but they notice the one small line in the small chatbox in the (mostly) left bottom corner? Sure!

This is Silver

Shukr4n1 votes

But as i reiterate, u used the chat to offend, not to ask gently stuff. So u misused the chat. Means that what u are telling as proof u were alresdy not using that way..

The Headbutter1 votes

You basically have to sit in games and coddle people and tell them how amazing they are even when they are 0-5 or you will get chat banned and they will int/afk, and never get punished.

Imperial Pandaa3 votes

False.

You just need to not be a complete asshole in a majority of your games.

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