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Petition 14 Day Ban - 1st Offense - Only 1 Game Listed under "Games"

Listille··2 votes·935 views

This is my first offense. I have had a clean account (1 chat restriction which I have learned from) up until this one game where I was fed up.

During the banning phase, ADC is hovering on Blitz Ban. ADC asks me which support I am going to play. I answer soraka. He proceeds to switch to soraka and bans her. "Sorry, Im high" Obviously I get mad at this point but this has happened before. This is when the team tells me to calm down because he is high. This left me furious to which point I hoped they would dodge when I said I am done and will feed. They laughed and told me to calm down and get high.

So I was forced to get hit with the leave banner, be forced like a whipped dog to play something else, or be true to my word. So I fed one game. Only game I have EVER feed in as well. I have played this game for over 4 years without any issue. My wife and I have supported via skins and promotions with true enjoyment.

I find a straight ban without a warning to be very odd. Especially since I have been counting down the days until the soraka skin finally gets released. So I am asking for my sentence to be reduced or at least an explanation as to why after 1 offense I am getting this punishment while I see people go back to back games without any strike to them.

33 Comments

Silent Gravity6 votes

The penalty for gameplay infractions starts at 14 day ban, because chat restrictions would not impact them at all. Also, gameplay infractions are considered much much worse than any amount of toxicity in chat.

The next penalty for any infraction is now a permanent ban. If you play regularly and are not validly reported, your punishment tier should decay in 3 - 6 months. Please be careful for the next bit. Right after a 14 day ban, the IFS decides to punish more frequently for less of an offense.

Listille1 votes

What I am shocked by is the lack of warning. I play with feeders everyday who openly do it to drop rank. I see them over and over yet they are never banned at this rate. It just really breaks my heart that I have been waiting for the 7th for 3 weeks now. And here I am banned and wont be able to see it.

Chermorg2 votes

You never considered the fact that they're different people?

Last estimate, League has 7.5 million concurrent players at any given time.

If you consider that there's 10 people in a game (makes the stats easier to not take yourself out) the chance you get matched with the same person within 10 games is literally 0.000013. That is literally less than 1% of 1%. The chance you saw the same intentional feeder in two games? Virtually nil.

As you can see by your case, Riot has a zero tolerance policy for intentionally feeding.

Listille1 votes

I run a spreadsheet that I track games and players in. Yes ive considered it.

Chermorg1 votes

Do you now?

Please point out a time when you've had the same person in more than one game. Remember that your match history is public information and can be verified.

Listille1 votes

You seem to want to duke this out on a technicality. I play on average 6 games a night within those 6 games i will play with the same people on average. Especially in lower bronze.

Silent Gravity1 votes

When someone is looking for a fight, it can be useful to let it go, especially in game.

Forums do allow more back-and-forth than games. It's your call.

Chermorg2 votes

Checked your history.

Can't find one example in the last 5 days (30 games).

That is aside from people you appear to be duoed with.

Silent Gravity6 votes

Zero tolerance for int-feeding is one of Riot's goals. They are working on improving the feeding detection system, so that you won't have to see others do it without punishment.

scazzman2 votes

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Zero tolerance for int-feeding is one of Riot's goals. They are working on improving the feeding detection system, so that you won't have to see others do it without punishment.

this. most people have zero sympathy for int feeders. and all too often people do it while avoiding detection. the fact you got banned after one game imo is a good thing

Listille1 votes

Not asking for sympathy. Just shocked that after years of playing without a single strike on my account that i go straight into a ban.

Firethorn2 votes

Hmm "I've never robbed a store before in my life and when I did I got a punishment".

scazzman2 votes

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Not asking for sympathy. Just shocked that after years of playing without a single strike on my account that i go straight into a ban.

its because riot's automated system has a very hard time catching trolls. in theory, you could have inted several more games and just not have been caught

Kei1432 votes

feeders are different than intentional feeders.

Many of them are just really bad at the game. On the other hand, intentional feeding as a grieifng tool isn't acceptable.

Timethief491 votes

Shocked by the Lack of a warning? If noone tells you that you can't kill someone are you shocked by the warning? No, it's fucking obvious that its a wrong thing there is no need of a warning. Also das byebye to end of season rewards.

SavageConcordia1 votes

Some people know how to game the current system to avoid detection for inting. Building mobi boots and items to give you movespeed with summoner 12 summoner 6 is not the way to do that. You made in painfully clear your intent making it incredibly easy to punish. You knew what you did was wrong but you did it anyways, that is on you.

Chermorg4 votes

Shows you what "Zero Tolerance" means, I guess.

Seriously, stop being that much of a douche over a video game. So what he banned you champion? Play a different one.

Firethorn1 votes

The one tricks are crying XD

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

I feel the second part is a bit much Chermorg. Like if it was a Soraka was hovered by OP or a random ban I would agree.

In this case though the problem started when the AD specifically asked in chat which support he was playing before banning it.

Is intentionally feeding justified? No. Should the AD go out of his way to purposely ban a team mates champ? Also no. We know two wrongs don't make a right, but still the comment is somewhat harsh.

Chermorg1 votes

Maybe the AD didn't want that support. Maybe the AD didn't want the enemy team to get it first.

There are valid reasons to do it.

The comment was meant to be harsh because frankly some people don't understand zero tolerance without being bluntly told.

zPOOPz1 votes

If my adc banned my intend pick, I get to attempt to bring back Season 3 Fiddlestix support.....

It doesn't mean I will troll the game, but it does mean I get to play my nostalgia support champ

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Wasn't Fid a legit support for a few weeks this season?

zPOOPz1 votes

it is??????????? Fiddle supp is my fav of all time before RIto raped his Fear Q and never gives back anything since Season 3.....

[darius-angry]

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Yeah, like in upper Elo he was tearing it up as a support because of the Fear. I think it went start e to harass and max Q for the lengthy fear cc.

zPOOPz1 votes

Did Rito returned his fear? It USED to be like 3 seconds back in Season 3...

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Nope. 2.25 at max rank.

Listille1 votes

I am not asking for a complete removal of the ban as I do feel I deserve a punishment. I am asking for a reduction of the ban. I play this game every day with my wife and its something that is very dear to me. I am mostly begging in the hopes of having a couple days taken off so that I may enjoy the release of the soraka skin. I

Listille1 votes

I am hoping that my time played shows a decent track history which shows that this is not normal for me. I agree it was a mistake which is why I am begging to be able to play with my wife again

Listille1 votes

I am truly hoping that I will be able to play with my wife again especially with the new Soraka skin coming out tomorrow. Please consider my good track record and time spent to reduce my ban.

YerroFever1 votes

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This is my first offense. I have had a clean account (1 chat restriction which I have learned from) up until this one game where I was fed up.

These two sentences are in conflict with each other. You cannot have a first offense when you have had a chat restriction prior to this punishment. Your chat restriction is a punishment for at least one prior offense.

During the banning phase, ADC is hovering on Blitz Ban. ADC asks me which support I am going to play. I answer soraka. He proceeds to switch to soraka and bans her. "Sorry, Im high" Obviously I get mad at this point but this has happened before. This is when the team tells me to calm down because he is high. This left me furious to which point I hoped they would dodge when I said I am done and will feed. They laughed and told me to calm down and get high.

This is absolutely awful to encounter. I've seen this happen and it's really annoying. Now unfortunately your reaction was not the best. You threatened them with intentionally feeding. Rather than deescalating the situation, you escalated it.

So I was forced to get hit with the leave banner, be forced like a whipped dog to play something else, or be true to my word. So I fed one game. Only game I have EVER feed in as well. I have played this game for over 4 years without any issue. My wife and I have supported via skins and promotions with true enjoyment.

You intentionally fed. You admit to a pretty bad offense...

I find a straight ban without a warning to be very odd. Especially since I have been counting down the days until the soraka skin finally gets released. So I am asking for my sentence to be reduced or at least an explanation as to why after 1 offense I am getting this punishment while I see people go back to back games without any strike to them.

As you have already admitted you have at least two offenses on your record but only see it as one offense, I'm going to wait for a Red to actually correct the statements on how many punishments you have gotten (if the reds actually respond to this thread)

EDIT: also, spending money does not justify intentional feeding.

korppi tuoni1 votes

Had somebody do that to me, "I just don't play with Soraka's, sorry." Picked Bard.... sorry dude, picking up chimes, back to lane, drop a shrine, hey look more chimes! Spent almost no time bot lane, won the game anyway.

Weiss Guertena1 votes

Be more subtle next time, mate. If you get a 4-man premade trolling you, start making "mistakes". Engage bad fights, miss your skillshots (bonus points if it's an ultimate), try to do flashy combos but "fail" them, overextend often but otherwise play normal - farm and push your lane, participate in fights, etc. If they begin calling you out then start apologizing, say that you are "tilted" and that you'd probably be calmer and play better if you weren't trolled - basically call them out instead. If they continue report them for harassment; you are just having a bad game and they are trash talking you for it. That's a punishable offense.

For the record I don't condone intentionally losing games in any way, shape or form except in one case - being trolled by a 4-man premade. Because in that case there are no innocent players whose game you'd be ruining; they decided to ruin your game as 4, and you are just paying back the favor.

Drugoth1 votes

Where is the silver lining you ask? Well I'll tell you. At least now you know what kind of behavior to avoid moving forward.

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