Increased Punishment After a Ban?

Listille·Sep 17, 2017·1 votes·471 views

I am baffled at why I received a 25 game chat restriction from 1 report from 1 game? We had a troll sej who was constantly berating the mid to the point that the team reported the sej. I know this because Riot gave me the "Thanks to your report" notification. But here I am first couple games after coming back from a ban (that I deserved) and immediately I am hit with this? I said "sht" and "Fck". Is this enough to warrant a chat ban? Two words that within the chat filter already....

Game 1 Listille: we have no melee Listille: not one Listille: ww Listille: smh sej Listille: WTF you got it? Listille: yes good jungler vs shit jungler Listille: their jungler fucked up mid Listille: i mained sej for 3 years Listille: you are shit Listille: you havent done much anyways Listille: well except die Listille: BUT GOOD NEWS! we can ff soon Listille: *you're Listille: reported for what? Listille: that were what? Listille: sej clicked no Listille: false report is reportable btw Listille: its considered griefing Listille: not a reportable offense lol Listille: yes the role of jungle won the game Listille: by all means go for it Listille: Blaiming Listille: muted Listille: GG report sej toxic Listille: oh man muted Listille: Sej has to be a feminist Listille: you banned rammus and OMG he wont stop

20 Comments

KaeblenSep 17, 20174 votes

It's called harassment. you didn't curse, or use offensive language. but you were constantly badgering blaming and irritating another player.

you probably wouldn't have had any punishment from this alone, but because you had received punishment recently, someone caught you.

You have another problem, though. You seem to assume that just because Sej also received punishment, that somehow is supposed to absolve you of anything you may have done during the game. It's almost like assuming, "so-and-so was worse, therefore I can't be guilty." That simply isn't true. Your punishment may actually have had something to do with preventing that kind of mindset. If both people acted inappropriately, they are both likely to receive punishment.

disclaimer: this is kind of a long post. I don't mean to be judgmental, or someone was right or wrong here. I just hope that this explains a bit as to why the ban may have occurred.

Karl Yoseph ShawSep 17, 20173 votes

You have to remember riot loves to white knight for all these little (bundles of sticks).

ChermorgSep 17, 20173 votes

Your entire chat is negative and bashing Sejuani.

Both bashing other players as well as creating a negative attitude are punishable. If you recently had a 10 game chat restriction, this is the next step as obviously if you're still behaving this eat 10 games didn't work to get you to fix your behavior.

ListilleSep 17, 20172 votes

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Your entire chat is negative and bashing Sejuani.

Both bashing other players as well as creating a negative attitude are punishable. If you recently had a 10 game chat restriction, this is the next step as obviously if you're still behaving this eat 10 games didn't work to get you to fix your behavior.

I am allowed to state my opinion. I didnt call him names. I used adjectives....

ChermorgSep 17, 20173 votes

You are allowed to state your opinion, but if your opinion consists of being negative towards others, Riot is allowed to punish you.

Bottom line is you cannot bag other players in game.

Beas7ieSep 17, 20171 votes

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I am allowed to state my opinion. I didnt call him names. I used adjectives....

Listille: you are shit

Also

Listille: BUT GOOD NEWS! we can ff soon

Negative attitude/giving up. Rito doesn't like "Negative Nellies" and other than voting for surrender you're expected to try and play to the best of your ability and NOT say things like "ff guys we can't win this" "surrender @15/20" etc.

YerroFeverSep 17, 20173 votes

Riot doesn't punish for swears. You can say fuck and shit.

Riot punishes for harassing players or being overly negative and creating an bad game atmosphere.

ListilleSep 17, 20172 votes

There is nothing here worthy of a chat ban.....

WoodMaster9000Sep 17, 20172 votes

You would think so, but you have to remember that nowadays people are so soft and get offended easily both in game and in real life. Like you can barely critique someone to try and help them and they freak out and call you toxic and report you for flaming. It's all about keeping your cool no matter how frustrating the game might be. Just keep looking for the next game to be better than the bad one.

Beas7ieSep 17, 20172 votes

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There is nothing here worthy of a chat ban.....

Listille: you are shit

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You have to remember riot loves to white knight for all these little (bundles of sticks).

Listille: you are shit

Cussing is fine in and of itself, but NOT cussing AT people. Saying "Oh shit" won't get you in trouble. Saying "You are shit" will and in your case did get you in trouble.

ListilleSep 17, 20171 votes

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Listille: you are shit

Listille: you are shit

Cussing is fine in and of itself, but NOT cussing AT people. Saying "Oh shit" won't get you in trouble. Saying "You are shit" will and in your case did get you in trouble.

One game and you pick out 2 lines.....one sided chat...Bravo the curse words i pointed out myself. This doesnt warrant 25 games.

ChermorgSep 17, 20172 votes

Obviously you didn't learn your lesson after your 10 game chat restriction.

If the slap on the wrist didn't work, do you think Riot will keep giving you a slap on the wrist?

Your next offense will be a 14 day suspension, and then permanent. It's a message: either improve or get off League. Riot does not punish you to give you a slap on the wrist, they punish you to tell you to improve your behavior.

ListilleSep 17, 20171 votes

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Obviously you didn't learn your lesson after your 10 game chat restriction.

If the slap on the wrist didn't work, do you think Riot will keep giving you a slap on the wrist?

Your next offense will be a 14 day suspension, and then permanent. It's a message: either improve or get off League. Riot does not punish you to give you a slap on the wrist, they punish you to tell you to improve your behavior.

I didnt have a 10game chat restriction but nice thought.

ChermorgSep 17, 20171 votes

Hmm.

It's slightly odd that you were given a 25 game restriction off the bat. It could be due to the fact you had a punishment for intentionally feeding (I'm assuming that was on the same account), but it certainly would be something you should ask support.

Beas7ieSep 17, 20171 votes

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One game and you pick out 2 lines.....one sided chat...Bravo the curse words i pointed out myself. This doesnt warrant 25 games.

You are either trolling or again missed the point. As I said cussing by itself is FINE. I myself, cuss quite often in my games. Cussing AT people is NOT fine.

You can say "Oh shit, that fight went horribly." and Rito will have NO problems with that.

But they DO have problems with using it AT people like what you did and saying "You are shit." It doesn't matter if you just say it once, twice, or multiple times. Rito has made their point clear on this.

ListilleSep 17, 20172 votes

I would like to have a response from a red explaining to me this "pattern" based off 1 game where the worse offense is "You're shit".

Its worth noting that I am fine playing off the 25 games. I am just terrified that ONE PERSON reported me (the sej) and I am immediately punished. It makes me feel like I am just inches away from a perma ban. Just played a game where I died 3 times early on (ganked and out of position...not the best) and one person said he was going to report me for "init". This scared the shit out of me because i was honestly playing my best. Am I just 1 pissed off teammate report away from losing my account?

42ØmegaSquadVeigSep 17, 20171 votes

looking at this i realize people who play this game are literal vaginas, they cant take a comment over the internet. and then people "reviewing" like this guy cant see that youre clearly replying to someone. the grammar nazi would be aids but not chat bannable. like if you didnt int cant they mute you at that point?

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Your entire chat is negative and bashing Sejuani.

Both bashing other players as well as creating a negative attitude are punishable. If you recently had a 10 game chat restriction, this is the next step as obviously if you're still behaving this eat 10 games didn't work to get you to fix your behavior.

ListilleSep 17, 20171 votes

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looking at this i realize people who play this game are literal vaginas, they cant take a comment over the internet. and then people "reviewing" like this guy cant see that youre clearly replying to someone. the grammar nazi would be aids but not chat bannable. like if you didnt int cant they mute you at that point?

The "You're Shit" comment was in direct response to the Sej hounding the mid over and over. It was a mirror response to his statement.

Glu10SensitivitySep 17, 20171 votes

Listille: i mained sej for 3 years Listille: you are shit Listille: you havent done much anyways Listille: well except die Listille: BUT GOOD NEWS! we can ff soon

you're being toxic here

Listille: Sej has to be a feminist

wtf was the point of you saying that? what does feminism have to do with anything in league? this is probably one of the factors in getting punished.

Lern2367k9Sep 18, 20171 votes

You used a key or multiple key words that triggered an AI bot. Here is a video that explains the report system better!

How to Report People In League

by Dong Huap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HldZ79Bef5Q (This video contains words that may offend people in the pursuit of education and isn't directed towards a person or group.)