Honor for Randoms and Enemys too

MantelKun·May 1, 2018·0 votes·1,924 views

The new honor system brought quiet a few problems. 1: almost every honor goes to a premade, so random players barely get honored. 2: most honors go to female players. im not a sexist, just telling you my experiences, since i most of the time play with at least 1 or 2 girls. 3: honoring an enemy is not possible anymore.

the question is: why should the average player give his best or be friendly, if he sees that his team is 4 premades? just for not getting reported?

Here my suggestion: Honor multiple players (even enemys) and add a Dishonor system. I know, the average player in this community is toxic and would dishonor enemys only for playing good. but i think this could decrease the amount of players flaming or saying gg ez, especially if there is a penalty for getting dishonored.

21 Comments

Kei143May 1, 20187 votes

Wait what?

People honor girls more? Wut ????

How the hell do you even know they are girls in the first place???

I can understand you complaining about the person that carried get all the honors and supports get left out dry, but girls getting more honors??? What the heck are you smoking...

MantelKunMay 2, 20181 votes

i wrote "because i most of the time play with 1 or 2 girls". i should have mentioned they are reallife friends. they even said themselves that they get honored more because they are female.

AraMoOseMay 1, 20184 votes

Points 1 and 2 are just stuff you pulled out of your ass and aren't worth adressing except to point out there is no way for you to have the data to support these bald ass assertions.

Point 3 I agree with, I've had several instances where I would have liked to honor an opponent, or my entire team, or all the players in the game. I think it's a shame this is no longer possible.

The answer to your question is yes ; You should always do your best, and if you are doing it only to get honors, then you don't deserve honors.

Finally with regard to your suggestions, I agree they should bring back team honors and opponent honors. I think your 'dishonors' suggestion is silly, the report function serves this purpose already.

MantelKunMay 2, 20181 votes

point 1: i had many games where premades (3 with the same tag) were feeding like hell. the one with the most deaths was most honorable player in one of those games. another game i carried with eve, didnt get a single honor. i even was very friendly this game, not a single flame or insultation, 34 kills, always giving blue to mid and red to adc. still no honors because they were 4 premades. point 2: im playing most of the time with 1 or 2 girls. i know they really are girls because they are reallife friends. they even admit that they agree in this point

Kei143May 2, 20183 votes

I honor good behavior, not good gameplay , which is what the system is intended for.

Someone can be 0/14/3 and didn't give up, there is a high chance I would be giving him a tilt-proof honor.

If you carried but was a jerk, I'd report you instead.

AraMoOseMay 2, 20182 votes

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point 1: i had many games where premades (3 with the same tag) were feeding like hell. the one with the most deaths was most honorable player in one of those games. another game i carried with eve, didnt get a single honor. i even was very friendly this game, not a single flame or insultation, 34 kills, always giving blue to mid and red to adc. still no honors because they were 4 premades. point 2: im playing most of the time with 1 or 2 girls. i know they really are girls because they are reallife friends. they even admit that they agree in this point

Point 1. I always play alone. I get plenty of honors. That in itself is enough to disprove your assertion, but I'll point out that "Not a single flame or insult" is not what Being Nice means... If you expect to be honored simply for not insulting anyone, I can see why people aren't honoring you.

Point 2. YOU know they are girls. Your teammates do not. Their opinion on the matter is as useful as yours, which is to say not useful at all. What we need is data, not people's opinions.

MantelKunMay 3, 20181 votes

we are talking about league of legends. most of the time i dont have any more options then honor the single person that didnt talk at all, since 80% of the people ARE flaming.

about point 2: they have names that are very feminine. ofc, everyone can call himself kawaiinekochan or something like that, but try it out yoursefe: youll get more honors if you have such a name^^

ModPrandineMay 2, 20183 votes

Where's your data to back up this claim? I rarely queue up with others and also occasionally get teamed up with premades and yet I still get honored quite frequently despite that. Now if you frequently play with a premade and rarely honor anyone but them then I could see how that would skew your data, but it is false to assume that only premades ever honor each other. Besides, the Honor system is specifically programmed to make honors from your premades count less than honors from non-premades in order to prevent honor farming.
Unless they specifically tell you what gender they are you have no way of knowing for sure what a persons actual gender is. You say that you play with girls often and have been told by them that they get often just for being females. That is a very limited and biased source to pull from especially considering the fact that again, other people have no way of knowing what gender they are unless they specifically tell them their gender. Even if the girls do tell other players their gender that doesn't necessarily mean that their gender is the primary reason they receive honors.
I am also disappointed by this since every now and then there is a player on the enemy team who I feel is deserving of my honors. At the end of the day though it's not that big a deal, and if I recall correctly Riot has stated that they're not opposed to bringing it back in the future, so fingers crossed on that one.

To answer your question you should always be trying to do your best while also accepting the fact that you're not always gonna receive honors in every game you play. If your only reason for playing is to farm honors then you need to seriously reevaluate why it is that you play League of Legends.

As for your suggestion I wholeheartedly agree with the idea of honoring multiple players in a game, as I have been in multiple games where I would just love to honor multiple teammates but couldn't. However, I disagree with having a dishonor system, mainly because we technically already have one with the IFS as if you receive a punishment your honor level drops down to 1 (or 0 if you're already at 1). If you don't feel a player is honor worthy then simply don't honor them.

ChermorgMay 1, 20182 votes

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The new honor system brought quiet a few problems. 1: almost every honor goes to a premade, so random players barely get honored. 2: most honors go to female players. im not a sexist, just telling you my experiences, since i most of the time play with at least 1 or 2 girls. 3: honoring an enemy is not possible anymore.

Wow.. I don't even know where to start.

Where is your source for this? I consistently get honors from players that aren't my premade - as evidenced by the fact that I get the loading-screen border in over half of my games.
You have no way of knowing the gender of another random player you meet. You further cannot generalize correlation to causation in that manner.
Honors are designed to bring out team players. An enemy player, if they're being a team player to your team, is intentionally feeding and doesn't deserve honor. You do not get to observe their team dynamics in team chat, pings, etc - thus it is not appropriate to allow you to honor them for behavior you did not witness.

MantelKunMay 2, 20181 votes

uhm. your thoughts of point 3 are quiet confusing. did you never experience a game where you think one single player was the reason the enemy team won? i want to honor such people, especially if they dont boast how fed they are or how good they can protect their team. point 1 and 2 i explained over 3 times to other comments already, so i ask you friendly to scroll up^^

ChermorgMay 2, 20185 votes

You aren't supposed to honor carries or winners. You're supposed to honor team players.

MantelKunMay 2, 20181 votes

then i might play the wrong game, since i respect my enemys too. i miss the "honorable opponent" option

ChermorgMay 2, 20182 votes

It's not disrespectful to not honor them. You simply don't have the data to know if they're honorable enough. Honor is based on teamwork, team coordination, and team helpfulness - not all chat.

MantelKunMay 3, 20181 votes

i never relied on all chat. i see alot while playing since i have my focus on the minimap. i see if their jungler gives blue buffs, i see if the support advances reckless into a fight or always keeps his carrys protected. i see if the players are farming elsewhere or have a feeling for teamfights. if someone boasts in all chat i even prefer to report them instead of honoring them, no matter how good they are.

CooL Ice TeaMay 2, 20182 votes

2: most honors go to female players. im not a sexist, just telling you my experiences, since i most of the time play with at least 1 or 2 girls.

how the hell do you even know that? I played around 500 games this season, i have no idea when a person is male or female. And even if they would tell me they are a girl, doesn't mean they are. I can tell you I am batman, would you believe that?

MantelKunMay 3, 20181 votes

ofc i would :) are you not?^^

jk, look at my answer above. ^^

MüffîñMay 1, 20181 votes

im guilty of 1 unless a. one of my teammates made my game more enjoyable b. my premade made me mad.

rtbf55359909May 2, 20181 votes

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MantelKunMay 2, 20181 votes

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point 1: i had many games where premades (3 with the same tag) were feeding like hell. the one with the most deaths was most honorable player in one of those games. another game i carried with eve, didnt get a single honor. i even was very friendly this game, not a single flame or insultation, 34 kills, always giving blue to mid and red to adc. still no honors because they were 4 premades. point 2: im playing most of the time with 1 or 2 girls. i know they really are girls because they are reallife friends. they even admit that they agree in this point

i did. except if you are talking about how others can know they are female, well: try it out: ask someone with a name that sounds female (the names of my 2 friends are their female nicknames.) if you didnt make this experience im happy for you, but i made it. lots and lots of times.

Baka RedMay 2, 20181 votes

I cannot speak for others - only for myself & my premade friends:

Almost all the honors from our premade go to the "randoms". Only if all of our team mates are trolls or griefers, we give them to each other.
What is this "female" you keep talking about?
True.

Your question has simple answer: You are prejudiced towards premade people. Some of them are actually more likely to give you the honors than each other.