I got banned fairly.

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Because legally, it has no merit, it is just a huge post to give a company plausible deniability on there irresponsibility in court.

I follow the SC, a virtually universal acceptable behavior that all league of legends players since BETA agreed on way back BEFORE riot changed the ToS (they revised it a total of 7 times, maybe more since 2015).

As far the law post I made, I was just making it clear you can't be prosecuted for verbal harassment.

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if I wasn't locked out of my already invested account (as most of the problematic thing in the ToS happened years after my account was made) I wouldn't have accept the ToS, but considering I can't get my money back I going to say accept knowing full well it means jack shit.

Edit: Riot doesn't give you multiple warnings before bans, they give you 2** PUNISHMENTS** before 14 day ban.

Alright, last post and after this let's just agree to disagree, as I doubt either of us will change our viewpoints from this.

Riot's Terms of Service can only really be invalidated if the ToS gives Riot to change its service at any point in time for any reason without notifying the customers (yes, they notified when making changes), or if you "passively" agreed (i.e. "agreed" to ToS by simply browsing the site or using a service without actually clicking any consent form). Outside of that, pretty much everything is allowed. And yes, the vague, "toxicity" is allowed too.

Example: The 1986 Computer Fraud and Abuse Act made it a federal crime to access a computer without authorization or in a way that exceeds authorization. Due to how vague this law is, the CFAA can be interpreted to mean that violations of company terms of service agreements are also violations of federal law. In 2013, the CFAA was used to prosecute programmer and activist Aaron Swartz after he copied files from JSTOR, violating its terms of service. While JSTOR didn’t seek to press charges, Aaron Swartz was still charged with crimes under the CFAA, and faced a $1 million fine and a few dozen years in prison. Aaron violated a vague law that he probably wasn't aware of because he broke ToS, so I'm pretty sure Riot's fine.

If you didn't accept the Terms, why did you accept it? Because you're invested, you say? Because those didn't used to be the rules?

Well, these are the rules now.

And you chose to accept.

P.S. warn·ing /ˈwôrniNG/Submit noun a statement or event that indicates a possible or impending danger, problem, or other unpleasant situation.

Those chat restrictions tell you to stop or you could lose your account; if you read the message, you'll clearly see it at the end.

And anyway, the Summoner's Code (outdated, shockingly enough.. it's almost like things can change over time but idk) has a bunch of stuff about keeping an open mind to others and being polite, with 7 as "Be Resolute, not Indignant" telling people not to afk, flame, or flame in retaliation, so following the SC shouldn't interfere with following ToS. I certainly don't remember the hidden rule of "yeah its ok to tell people to kys and uninstall because they're 1/7/3."

Again, final post, so have fun and good luck building your honors back, and remember that if you're going to say something that's probably going to reasonably offend someone, it's probably best to keep those thoughts to yourself.

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For 1 if you transferred your ping would be over 400 constantly.

Should probably migrate there then.

To the second part, no, it doesn't make them not human. I would hardly call a ban cruel. You potentially lose money, which was entirely unrequired and optional. And the time you need to level a new account.

If they banned you and fined you. Yes that'd be cruel. Other examples could also be made that are cruel. But this isn't a matter of "You said a bad word once, so we're going to ban you" in most cases. Often it's "you keep using bad language and griefing during games, which in turn causes distress to other players as you're harming their experience. So we progressively punish you with harsher punishments. Hhhhmmm, you haven't gotten the message that your behavior will not stand, time to get rid of you"

If this were physical sport. You paid your membership, for your uniform and equipment. But then consistently abuse umpires and opposition players. Tripping them and shoving them around. We warn you multiple times, you get suspensions due to your behavior but you keep going. And so I ban you from ever playing at out club again. Is this cruel? Unfair? Not even close. You are at fault, you chose to behave this way which did not comply with the code of conduct on the membership form you signed.

Cruel would be physical or psychological trauma/torture. Suing them until they have nothing left. Burning their house down. The list goes on.

First of all, ban is a psychological torture and second, there are less cruel and more intuitive ways to enforce chat rules. Riot decided to stick to permanent bans, but this is purely their arbitrary decision. They even addressed several suggestions with incompetence or lies.

Short versions: CROWD: RITO WHY U NO PERMANENTLY CHATBAN IT COMPLETELY FIXES CHAT TOXICITY Rito: We tried doing so, but permanently chat banned players are very likely to resort to gameplay-wise offences that are much more difficult to detect. CROWD: Then maybe you should improve your detection methods, instead of taking accounts from people who don't resort to trolling because of "potentially trolling". Rito: What were we talking about, again? I get easily distracted. No matter. We were right anyway.

CROWD: LET PERMABANNED PLAYERS PLAY IN THEIR OWN QUEUE Rito: The concept of prisoner's island goes against our idea that people should be reformed. It's also a very bad experience to play with toxic players, queue times would be too long, matchmaking would be bad and we don't want to force anyone into it. CROWD: Wait, but you have already given up on reforming us and permabanned us, which is much worse experience than playing with people like us, who don't take verbal toxicity seriously and if we don't like queue times or matchmaking we could ditch the account ourselves. Give us a choice, right now our queue times are "forever" and experience is as bad as it possibly gets in a video game. Rito: You got permabanned because you violated the rules, it's all that matters, we don't want to think about your problems.

Being rightly punished, for consistent horrendous behavior which does nothing but cause harm and distress, is more than fair. Riot is beyond lenient compared to some other companies. They tell you when you do something wrong, what that something is and warn you what will happen if you don't fix the problem. They give you every chance to fix your problem. If you choose not to, and to harass people in game. Then you don't deserve to play

Riot is beyond lenient compared to what, again? They two-week you for saying "n%%%%r" or "f%%%%t" once regardless of context and after that any, even the most minor negativity triggers(for some reason I love this word) a permanent ban. This is as harsh and stupid as it humanely gets, when it comes to punishments in multiplayer games.

And harm/distress is overrrated. There are plenty of people more willing to join the queue with permabanned players, but without ifs holding a gun to the back of your head, waiting for you to misbehave, which is why I think their "prisoner's island" should be queue open for general non-toxic public, like me. With rank and end of season 5v5 soloqueue rewards.