What is toxic???

RayleighTT·10/28/2019, 6:02:55 PM·1 votes·2,940 views

Let's say you break rules , you get chat restricted and have honor lv 1 , even if you have 3 months of clean behaviour without breaking rules ,you get stronger punishment even after 3,4,5 months of clean behaviour , , i tell you as i haven't test for more than 3 months cause it was impossible for me... ,but you would need more than 5-6 months to reset your punishment level(because there is not a decreasing toxic level system to do that), is kind of much to wait for having a chance to decrease your toxic level + if you get punished after 3-4 months , you again have to begin from 0 months to stay 6 months clean and don't be negative at all

Considering there are many reasons you can just loss your calm ... , there is no point to proof you guys anything else than the fact this current system abuse punishments and that if you are in the situation to loss your calm every 3+ months after tolerate hundreds of cases of flame and troll/grief against you and others from your game ,then i think is definetly an abuse the current system as it works... , because you do tolerate hundreds of cases of toxicity against you or others ,and if you respond after 3 months to 1 guy , you just get your punishment reset chances denyed ,that mean you have to start from 0 and be again 6+ months clean behaviour to reset your punishment level , which in this way , even if you do your best you can get to the situation you can be permanent banned for such cases ,because the punishment level never decrease and you keep getting stronger punishments , even if you don't deserve that's because Riot have not implement a pro active system which lowers punishments during the high amounts of positivity and neutral behaviour based on how many games you played , in this time , how many cases of toxicity you detected reported and been toxic considered , how many cases you attempted to do your best to be calm , regarding others players from your games who been banned and how toxic they been evaluate as.. , i am considering this system likely to promote people to be much more toxic than helping out players who deserve to don't suffer stronger punishments and who do them best to be calm playing this game .

If anyone of here believe that ,let's say if i get 10 games chat restriction , then i play 3 months+ being normal and not toxic , and if get 25 chat games restriction will be better for me as player??? , then what if i do happen to stay again 3 months chill/calm and get again a moment i loss my calm , then i deserve 14 days ban ?? , then further more the permanent ban ??? , this is definetly wrong , because you should have chances to improve your behaviour when you do your best to ignore this mass toxicity towards you , i have been in my case banned in such a manner permanent without to even swear anyone.. , and if i tolerated 3 months hundreds of cases of toxicity towards me and others in my games, i don't think Riot should make so big deal because i answer some guy back ,as i loss my calm 1-2 times, is not like i been flaming whole 3 months every day someone else... to deserve stronger punishments . I think this don't make sense but i got 11 months after my permanent ban , of clean behaviour into chat ,lost my control a moment ,not even swear and i got my honor lv 3 checkpoint 2 reseted to honor lv 1 , is pretty much fair ??? , i mean i deserve to don't earn at all hextech rewards even if i behave almost 1 year good and calm... , and that's not all because i play only ranked and i probably will not get my ranked rewards . Tell me or others then that Riot attempt to do his best to improve this game , if you are good you get same treat as anyone else who flames , i am definetly sure that Riot have no knowdledge to control them own punishment system , they ain't able to create a pleasure enviroment... , they ain't able to create one punishment system to work right ,as there are hundreds of cases which are different of each other ,as severity in the way behaviour rules been broke and more.

There is not a single article to describe actually what games woulded be marked as toxicity... , is one to be flamed one game and if you say something back a bit negative , i have no clue if that is marked as a negative game... , well if i haven't answer whole game to that guy , that doesn't make me toxic neither that much a player who wants to break rules ,different ways you react to much toxicity toward your games shouldmather .

Let describe you the situation i been last time when i got a game toxic considered , my support was autofill ,he pick shen , and leave me bot lane early before we ever have the required gold to build items and fight others , he roam whole game without to return bot lane ,flame me , then he keep flame me most of the game having that kind of troll/win trade behaviour as he was pushing top lane alone for 2 nd tower to be taken top... , while i was defending base 1 vs 4 guys as the rest of team died , i no need any of you to believe me in what do i say here, because i hold this description even when i "discuss" my punishment with Riot ,as they not even speak with me about closed case and moved on , they told me that after 3 months of clean behaviour ,honor lv 1 , just because i have 14 days ban i deserve to be permanent banned 140 years without to even swear anyone , if that makes me so guilty ... , i have no ideea why most of people should play this game , i mean i deserve to loss one account lvl 167 for that ... ,if there was a warning and some discussion prior some actions to be taken against me , was much better , because then you solve the problems throught talking .

How many of you been contacted by Riot to speak on your behaviour problems , no one been, they all getting chat logs ,and the discuss not even happen , i mean they have 30 000 000 players or how many they sayd ,they not even afford to loss time to discuss your case... ,but still they push automatic chat logs bans... , which is extremly wrong . Because there are cases where they should talk to them players ,making sure they don't abuse those players and don't create uncomfortable situations to them , i been playing whole 6-7 years as good as i could ,but because Riot ignored and haven't discuss my case proper ,i promised myself to do my best to change myself, in how do i behave in chat so i don't get anymore banned for toxicity ,and then to be an asshole when i play this game ,because no one care about me when i complain about stuffs , no one care that i tolerate hundreds of cases of toxicity ,no one cares that i do my best to don't stress myself when someone flame/grief/troll or playing bad ... , and i did learn lot's of stuffs in time ,and in same time i learned that Riot doesn't care what kind of person you are... , because i become a worse person because of them actions , and is probably because i want to revenge on the fact they ignored and punish me without a strong reason , without strong evidence , without giving me chance to even describe who i am ,and what kind of person i am , and how my past been and how much i changed myself.

So if you seen ,hundreds of cases of people who quited to play good and gived up , is because Riot push us to be like that , what's the point to do our best??? , to get angry after lossing then because of someone else... , or that we can't control 3-4 feeders in team to stop .... , or that someone flame , that means i should play every day my best?? or to play to win , if every day i go there and play ranked i see same stuffs happening to me , everyone flames ,everyone troll/grief without to even see them behaviour problems + there are people lacking skills/experience to play ranked in normal stats without getting negative scores ... , after 7-8 years i gived up , i been a good player , slowly the game push me to give up and not anymore care , then to not anymore consume myself , if i win or loss ,then to not anymore consume myself if i play bad , because that's what Riot wants... , i mean how many of you feeled like, you have to do that ? ,to stop from being too competitive and to keep yourself calm .

I once been a player who was kind of good to extremly good on playing ranked , i was seeing people quiting to play serious and to stress themself right after permanent bans been an option ,then i seen players which gived up faster , which early surrender ,surrender more often , then i seen players from year to year who were playing worse ,due to the fact that in past people was criticism noob players , in the sense they laughted at them because they were bad.. , and they were spending time to improve then ... ,but now no one spend time to improve ,everyone spend time just to play , most of the players i see , have no wishes to improve and to learn , or to analys ,lead or communicate, and i am totally confident that there coulded be chat bans permanent and that could be a much more solution to make this game a pleasure to play ....

Right now probably as the fact there is a function to disable chat , is extremly used by people who can't hold them control and calm capacity to tolerate others , which means they already not using chat , is like they would permanent ban them chat of themself... , i didn't had this luck or option to have what chances they get nowadays , because when i realise i can't control my behaviour and capacity to be calm , i asked for such an option and been refused ,which landed to a permanent punishment , and if you stay to analys ... , due to the fact some people have more options to avoid to be toxic than i had... ,then that means the past players who got in situation to be permanent banned should have them chance to play again this game... ,but they will never receive that chance ,even if this current option of disabling chat , which Riot created haven't born today , it born long time ago ,but they haven't implemented,until hundreds of players had this problem , and it was a problem , is extremly hard for some people to control them behaviour . Otherwise this game wouldn't be full of toxicity , my own opinnion is that most of people with chat issues chose the disable chat option ... ,so that means Riot been wrong when they sayd that a permanent chat ban wouldn't be better , they just have no interest to do what is right!.

27 Comments

rujitra10/28/2019, 6:18:47 PM5 votes

No. You will not be unbanned.

No. Riot will not change the rules or change your punishment just because you try to "discuss" with them why you shouldn't have to control your emotions and have self-control.

No. Riot will not take "but he started it" as an excuse for bad behavior.

No. Making more posts about this will not change this.

No. Riot is not going to take what you "feel" or your opinion over what their data shows that people will do.

Kei14310/28/2019, 6:09:15 PM4 votes

You've been around long enough to know that you don't get punished for 1 game of ML toxicity after 3 months of average possible with clean behavior, so don't go spewing that nonsense making it sound like a fact.

Or are you telling me that after so long, you still haven't learnt your lesson?

ZackTheWaffleMan10/28/2019, 6:09:48 PM2 votes

baby don't hurt me

floo11/7/2019, 9:40:24 AM1 votes

The fact that there even is a way for you to lower the punishment after a certain amount of time should leave you grateful. The purpose of bans is to tell you "you're doing something wrong and we don't want that in our game", not "in 6 months you get another chance to be a dick ingame". If you can't keep your cool for more than 3 months, that's your problem not Riot's or the player's. Others play since season 1 or 2 without ever getting punished.

Your chance to reform are the 4 instances of bans in comparison to 1 definite ban straight away.

Why is your post so long if you are describing the same thing over and over again.

Jonesybones11/7/2019, 2:34:00 PM1 votes

Baby don't flame support.... you died. head bobs