Should we get a LeaverBuster due to a BugSplat in a bot game!?

hi im mirkich·Sep 13, 2018·4 votes·4,880 views

Hi there! So yesterday during the loading screen of a bot game my client froze and as a result of this I had to reboot it and start the game with a delay of 8 minutes. About an hour ago, right after the champion selection, the client started a repair due to a problem in the installation (ofc causing me to join the game about 15 minutes after it had started). I get it that the bug is in my files, but after all how could I know about it, and do I really deserve a LeaverBuster!?

13 Comments

AJStarhikerSep 13, 20182 votes

They include bot games partly so new players don't learn bad habits. Have you ever heard the phrase "Practice how you compte, compete how you practice"? If you learn in practice (bot games) that it's ok to leave and there's no penalties, you'll move on to more competetive games (normals, ranked) with that learned behavior.

You would see an increase in both leaves, and posts (complaints) wondering why they got punished for something that had previously been acceptable.

And before you bring up levels or rankings, keep in mind anyone can be queued together for bots, so it would be counter productive and unfair for new players to get punished while their experienced teammates have immunity.

PurpleYukariSep 13, 20181 votes

I think its deserved because its your responsibility, and there is no reliable way to distinguish between game crashes/bad internet/intentionally leaving. You can test the client with the practice game mode or custom games if you are experiencing issues. Those don't hit you with leaverbuster if you get a game crash. If the issues are consistently cropping up its your responsibility to figure out a fix, either by reaching out to support or discussing the issue on the forums.

hi im mirkichSep 13, 20181 votes

Yeah dude, but the problem is these bugsplats come out of nowhere. I have like 250 games with 0 problems and then suddenly I get a bugsplat. And I don't believe that testing the client out in a training game will help, as I have got the bugsplat just after I had finished my previous game. Thanks for the reply!

SubdueSep 13, 20181 votes

One leave doesn't net you a leaverbuster penalty, for the very reason that sometimes leaving is beyond your control. It takes a pattern of leaves to get hit with leaverbuster penalties.

hi im mirkichSep 13, 20181 votes

Yeah but I guess a leave in 2 (two) consecutive games counts for the LB.

zPOOPzSep 13, 20181 votes

2 consecutive afk does not get you hit with LPQ. I've afk more than twice...

Silent GravitySep 13, 20181 votes

It can, based on account history.

zPOOPzSep 13, 20181 votes

precisely the point subdue is trying to make

Silent GravitySep 13, 20181 votes

You're right. I misinterpreted your statement.

EleshakaiSep 13, 20181 votes

Leaverbuster is the one system where I disagree with Riot.... I feel like bot games should be exempt from LB and that intent should matter when it comes to leaving... but... it is what it is.

PurpleYukariSep 13, 20184 votes

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Leaverbuster is the one system where I disagree with Riot.... I feel like bot games should be exempt from LB and that intent should matter when it comes to leaving... but... it is what it is.

I agree that bot games should not be looked at as harshly as regular games with LB but I am not sure about exempt, after all it would be annoying to have people constantly DC from them. Intent mattering sounds good in theory but in practice it isn't done because its impossible to implement programatically. People will try to exploit the system to leave but not let it count. For example, if you penalize quitting the game but not being disconnected due to a bad connection, people will unplug their modems if they want to disconnect without penalty. There are also methods to intentionally cause game clients to crash, with the simplest being by using Task Manager.

EleshakaiSep 14, 20181 votes

I'm perfectly okay with that possibility. I would rather NOT punish 100 people who deserve punishment than punish even one person who doesn't. Nobody's life is on the line here - it's a hobby.