i recently played a game on vayne where my team called me a troll and toxic for bantering with a zed and taking jg camps after laning phase. Is taking jg camps as an adc or any other role considered griefing or trolling>?
I do it all the time as Yasuo and tryndamere lol
If you're opting for an unorthodox strategy, such as killing jungle mobs instead of letting your jungler do it, I'd suggest talking it over with it your teammates first. Not everyone is familiar or **willing **to do a certain strategy, which is why someone's approach might be considered trollish/griefy.
For example, if you're playing support and wanna go double top, make sure your whole team (especially your ADC) is okay with that. Otherwise, you're making a giant gameplay shift that could negativelly impact your team.
Whether it is considered as griefing depends on the intent.
If you are doing it to afk farm / not contribute to anything / piss off your team mates on purpose, then yea, its griefing.
If you are doing that to get gold alone, then no, it's not griefing.
Intention is the keyword here.
No its not you're fine. Obviously you're doing it to get ahead, just mute the rest and continue playing to win.
The mention about intent is pretty much correct here. It is not inherently wrong to take camps. But it is if it is causing your team to be behind or not be able to play properly. There are specifics in the TOS about playing in ways that hinder your team or hurt their chances. KDA Umbra goes over that pretty well with the examples.
If you get to late game and everything is on fire (so to speak) and you are farming Krugs because it is unsafe to go out and get farm and the JG complains... That is probably more of a "them" thing to be honest. But it is better to talk something over with your team rather than just mess up their JG pathing and such.
Something to consider is if someone is one camp away from buying an item and you steal that camp and they cannot reasonably go get more gold and cannot afford to go back then go back again after another camp because of an objective timing, you are actively hindering them without knowing it. Only they know it. This happens a lot when a JG comes into lane and steals CS. It can mess up your wave control and can destroy your item timing backs. Technically, this is griefing because it actively hinders your team. It is unlikely to be punished because the automated system cannot really check for it but if a bunch of reports come from a lot of games probably.
A human could easily enough determine if this was griefing or merely bad play though. In general, if in doubt, just ask. That is why I am rarely happy playing with a random for JG. Stealing CS and not getting "my" blue buff. :/
