Ban people for actually being toxic, not just for talking shit

Miku Append·7/17/2018, 10:07:49 PM·2 votes·1,251 views

Talking shit is nothing new in esports. Actually take actions against feeders, people who are legitimately trolling, and refusing to work with their team instead of "durhur this person is yelling at me, give them perma ban." At least Blizzard's team does their fucking job.

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Aneirin7/17/2018, 10:11:02 PM10 votes

At least Blizzard's team does their fucking job.

Then go play their game?

Kei1437/17/2018, 11:53:23 PM6 votes

There's a fine line between trash talking and being toxic. Many of the toxic people cross the line without knowing they crossed it. Infact, sometimes the take a giant stride over it and still think it's ok.

ModPrandine7/18/2018, 12:48:57 AM5 votes

They do, but understand that there's a fine line between trash talking and talking like trash. Those that cross that line are the ones who get penalized. To quote Baron Barian:

There's trash talking, and then there's talking like trash. Don't think twice before you talk. Think 5 times.

And from Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

Trash talk is part of all competitive sports. It happens all the time in the pros.

Yes and no. Yes, trash talk occurs, but it has definite limits. Most of the things that are punished in game (racial, ethnic and homophobic slurs, sexism, etc.) would also earn you a hefty fine in professional sports.

A Tumblr List of NBA Fines (http://nbafines.tumblr.com/) (My personal favorite on that site is this indefinite suspension (http://nbafines.tumblr.com/post/1010368028/3-12-96-the-nba-suspended-mahmoud-abdul-rauf-den), simply for refusing to stand during the National Anthem.)

A List of NFL Fines for Taunting (https://operations.nfl.com/football-ops/fines-appeals/)

NBC Article on Fines Agreed to by the NFLPA (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/01/bizarrely-specific-nfl-fines-come-from-agreed-league-union-schedule/) "Excessive profanity or other unsportsmanlike conduct triggers a minimum fine of $10,500."

NHL Office of Player Safety (http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm?location=/playersafety) Brendan Shanahan is the ****ing Bad Santa of the NHL. Did you know that his Office of Player Safety watches every minute of every game, from multiple angles? He sees and hears EVERYTHING, including swearing.

... and the grand finale! Marge Schott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott), who was forced out of ownership of the Cincinnati Reds for racist comments and pro-Nazi sentiments.

Also, Trolls and inters do get banned but because they're getting smarter about how they avoid detection (and because Riot wants to try to avoid punishing innocent players as much as possible) it's harder to catch them in the act compared to simple chat-related offenses. Gameplay related offenses when proven to be on purpose are assigned a 2-week ban as the first punishment. In case you don’t believe me on this point here are a couple examples of gameplay trolls being banned. Yes it’s just a few examples, but it proves that they do get punished.

Mr INTING xD7/17/2018, 10:15:36 PM2 votes

Ye u are right. I dont get system either. Trolls are fine but toxic ppl nope 14-day ban. Who is in charge of that stupid shitt?

PresBushDid7117/17/2018, 11:17:48 PM2 votes

Unique and interesting thread .