Using "all chat" to your team's advantage!?

Dr Heisenberg··8 votes·1,154 views

All chat is part of the game. As I see it, you can use it to your team's advantage, as a mind game. I sometimes use it to deceive the enemy team.

  "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."
  (Art of War)

Obviously, there are lots of ways to use "all chat" to try to decieve the enemy team. I want to discuss one practise in particular.

When my enemy team is ahead, I sometimes use "call chat" to pretend that I am tilted.

  "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak."
  (Art of War)

This basically has two effects:

  1. It reassures the enemy team in their feeling that they are in fact winning. And nothing can be more deceptive than the idea that you have already won.
  2. It often makes the enemy team try to use "my tilt" to their advantage by trying to tilt me even more -> by camping me. And camping is not very effective if you are expecting it.

Both overconfidence and ineffectivy gives my team a better chance of winning.

Now, do you consider this good practise, fair play, or what do you think? Obviously, pretending to be tilted may not be the best way to promote positive attitudes, but all is fair in love and war, right?

15 Comments

IA9hRfpP5q4 votes

I jut try to trigger them by ending every sentence with "xD" and whenever they try to make a play , flash bad or something , I'll type "Ayyyyy Lmao that flash"

Zero Shingetsu3 votes

I call it fair and acceptable. There's nothing in the TOS about All Chat deception. I think it's rather clever, actually.

TrulyBland2 votes

"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." (Art of War)

"Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak." (Art of War)

Obviously, pretending to be tilted may not be the best way to promote positive attitudes, but all is fair in love and war, right?

You... you are aware that this is not actually war, right? This is a video game. For fun.

Aaaanyway... As this is not war, everything is not fair, otherwise you could just straight up cheat. And as it is for fun, the way you treat not only your allies but also your enemies has to include a minimum amount of respect, to make sure everybody is at least having a somewhat pleasant time. Hypothetical scenarios are difficult to judge, but it has been shown that a lot of things people do for "mind games" are at the very least grey areas that can facilitate being punished for other "less grey" things.

Short version: I wouldn't do it.

Zero Shingetsu5 votes

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(Art of War) (Art of War)

You... you are aware that this is not actually war, right? This is a video game. For fun.

Aaaanyway... As this is not war, everything is not fair, otherwise you could just straight up cheat. And as it is for fun, the way you treat not only your allies but also your enemies has to include a minimum amount of respect, to make sure everybody is at least having a somewhat pleasant time. Hypothetical scenarios are difficult to judge, but it has been shown that a lot of things people do for "mind games" are at the very least grey areas that can facilitate being punished for other "less grey" things.

Short version: I wouldn't do it.

The Art of War has been applied to various things from business to sports. There are plenty of sports coaches and professional fighters who use principles from the Art of War in their game.

For example, "Be full where the enemy is empty, and empty where the enemy is full." You could very easily apply this to League as saying, don't fight where a leading team is grouped and pushing. Instead, push them back in the opposite lane.

In fact, there are other treatises that can be used just as effectively out of war. Some examples from the Thirty-Six Stratagems:

  • Disturb the water and catch a fish. This is classic use of initiate tactics. Have your tank rush in and CC theirs, and now the enemy team is scrambling away in all directions. The squishies are wide open.
  • Replace the beams with rotten timbers. This is baseline hard-CC-on-enemy-damage play, or when Kha'zix or Aatrox leaps into the opponent's back line.
  • Deck the tree with false blossoms. Any time you charge up a Vi Q or have Rammus Powerball into a bush towards the enemy just to back them off, you do this.
  • The empty fort strategy. I've found myself, as a mobile champ like Shaco or LeBlanc, warding the enemy away from dragon while my team is fighting it by roaming their jungle and acting like I'm trying to bait them into an ambush. If you do something like that? This is the stratagem you're using.

In other words, knowledge from such writings as these can be applied to several different things, video games included.

TrulyBland1 votes

I'm aware of how Art of War can be applied to a lot of things. I was more focussing on the "all is fair in love an war" thing. Which is neither universally true for business or sports. (It's not even really true for love and war, even though I get the idea in these cases)

That said, it does seem a bit overzealous to me to apply Art of War to a video game. But hey, as long as you're still having fun.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

{quoted}

I'm aware of how Art of War can be applied to a lot of things. I was more focussing on the "all is fair in love an war" thing. Which is neither universally true for business or sports. (It's not even really true for love and war, even though I get the idea in these cases)

That said, it does seem a bit overzealous to me to apply Art of War to a video game. But hey, as long as you're still having fun.

What if it's a strategy game? :)

Friendly Ram2 votes

Call out objectives and then sweep the area generally brings the enemy team running into an ambush.

TheSequelsRBad1 votes

I doubt it would be that effective, but if it works, go for it I guess.

TWITCHTV ERONATE1 votes

You're overstimating league of legends players lol.

most will just respond "oshit wtf is this guy talking about"

elduris1 votes

This is why I leave all chat off. ;)

Immortal Fenix1 votes

But I actually like conversing with the occasional friendly opposing summon... Who am I kidding, that never happens.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Kim Chi Vendor1 votes

I usually play tank support so I try to needle people a bit so they attack me. Usually don't all chat if I'm not tanking.

BlueThingamajig1 votes

I think that, so long as your team is in the know, go for it. Depending on what you're saying, it can always be misconstrued as attacking teammates, in the inevitable generalization of poe's law

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