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Permabanned, skipped 14 days ban

PULLEA PULIUKKO··2 votes·2,233 views

Apparently my trolling was so severe I deserved instant permaban. Note that this is my first permaban too.

I did the following prank for many ranked games: First I ask someone to pick Yuumi (I'm assigned support, they expect a trade), then they pick it and I just lock something totally random and let them keep Yuumi. Either they dodge or we end up playing the game, where I just do some suspicious stuff with poor runes/spells/items (looks like inting, but never did run it down tho). If you ask me, this is a rather clever and funny joke and I just did it when I felt bored with the game.

Probably I deserved a punishment, but why didn't it come any sooner? I executed this trolling method for months every now and then. Also why is it instant perma? Never have I typed any raciar slurs or death threaths, so I think this is kinda too harsh. Not like it's a big deal though, since I'm not really into League anymore but if I someday want to play for real again I have many other accounts. This is more a matter of curiosity.

There was only one line of chat in the game that triggered the ban: PULLEA PULIUKKO: how would it be perma if havent even got 14

If I remember correctly I actually have got one 14-days ban on this account, however, it was way over a year ago and I've restored at least to Honor level 2 since then. Shouldn't it be considered as a fresh start then? Players on the games often said they'll send tickets to Riot Support about my actions so this seems like a manual ban by someone. Feels like they decided to give perma just because that chatline I typed.

Funny way to troll or no? Deserved perma or "overuse of authority" by Riot? I'll probably discuss this matter later at Riot support too but the site doesn't currently work at all for me at least.

Edit: Response in ticket

Bitchcrack Pot:

Greetings, human! I am Blitzcrank Bot. My purpose is to provide a fast and thorough explanation of your recent ban.

Players have reported you 42 times in the past 20 games for negative or abusive behaviors in chat - in human terms, this means giving up on games, griefing your fellow players, and generally being difficult to play with over a large number of matches and teammates.

Here are some chat logs from games where you were heavily reported:

Game 4340783603:

Pre Game Lobby: PULLEA PULIUKKO: fp yuumi PULLEA PULIUKKO: they all said the past 20 games

In Game: [All]PULLEA PULIUKKO: how would it be perma if havent even got 14

Post Game Lobby:

I know these can be subjective concepts. I myself was once banned for calling my teammates “weak, fleshy underlings.” Even though I meant well, enough of them reported me for it that I re-programmed my communication style. By acting diplomatic and calm, I’m now able to bend them to my will without succumbing to the forbidden dance of verbal abuse.

Sometimes it’s best to ignore the mewlings of your teammates and only focus on what you can control. If teammates anger you, try saying so out loud to yourself, not in chat where they can report you. After an annoying game, find a satisfying way to blow off steam. I’m told humans find catharsis in music, so try listening to Mozart Symphony 1, 33, 498 or 99999.

I hope I have been useful to you. Although my heart is cold and mechanical, I feel we now have a deep connection and bond. There isn’t much more information a human specialist could provide, but if you want any further questions answered, you may select the option below.

18 Comments

ModThe Djinn11 votes

Apparently my trolling was so severe I deserved instant permaban.

Yep. Players who repeatedly and obviously ruin games often get severely escalated punishment when identified. The fact that you appear to think this was a funny way to spend your time and don't appear to have sympathy for the many players whose games you ruined makes me pretty confident that this was the correct course of action.

Toxicate132 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YN4IhQfT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-28T17:07:46.277+0000)

Yep. Players who repeatedly and obviously ruin games often get severely escalated punishment when identified. The fact that you appear to think this was a funny way to spend your time and don't appear to have sympathy for the many players whose games you ruined makes me pretty confident that this was the correct course of action.

You're supposed to get temp banned first though. There is no situation where you get instantly perma banned.

ModThe Djinn7 votes

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You're supposed to get temp banned first though. There is no situation where you get instantly perma banned.

This is not actually true. For truly severe behaviior or stuff that requires manual identification or things that are extreme violations of the terms of use you can get your account immediately permanently banned.

Sukishoo3 votes

No. If the punishment is severe enough they will skip tiers regardless.

There are 4 tiers to the punishment system afterall, 10 game chat ban, 25 game chat ban, 14 day game ban and permaban. The system will chose whatever one is appropriate for the case. Although it is rare that they go straight to a Permaban, it can indeed happen.

Kei1432 votes

It's not a requirement to go through a temp ban first, especially with manual reviews and punishments.

PULLEA PULIUKKO1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YN4IhQfT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-28T17:07:46.277+0000)

Yep. Players who repeatedly and obviously ruin games often get severely escalated punishment when identified. The fact that you appear to think this was a funny way to spend your time and don't appear to have sympathy for the many players whose games you ruined makes me pretty confident that this was the correct course of action.

Why did it take so long time to get identified? They allowed me to keep doing this just to permaban me later?

And it is honestly funny, people should learn to laugh. I can't take League ranked games or any other game seriously anymore like I once did. Everyone (especially these d4 1500 games+ players who think they get Challenger someday and go Pro) is wasting their time anyway when playing a video game, I just spiced it up a little.

ModThe Djinn5 votes

[{quoted}](name=PULLEA PULIUKKO,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YN4IhQfT,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-12-28T17:12:49.426+0000)

Why did it take so long time to get identified? They allowed me to keep doing this just to permaban me later?

I can't speak to the specifics, but my suspicion is that your account required a manual review.

And it is honestly funny, people should learn to laugh. I can't take League ranked games or any other game seriously anymore like I once did. Everyone (especially these d4 1500 games+ players who think they get Challenger someday and go Pro) is wasting their time anyway when playing a video game, I just spiced it up a little.

If you find ruining the experience of other players funny I would suggest you find a new online community.

ModPrandine2 votes

[{quoted}](name=PULLEA PULIUKKO,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YN4IhQfT,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-12-28T17:12:49.426+0000)

Why did it take so long time to get identified? They allowed me to keep doing this just to permaban me later?

It was probably a manual review that got you here.

And it is honestly funny, people should learn to laugh. I can't take League ranked games or any other game seriously anymore like I once did. Everyone (especially these d4 1500 games+ players who think they get Challenger someday and go Pro) is wasting their time anyway when playing a video game, I just spiced it up a little.

It may be funny to you but it's not to everyone else, and you can't use "just joking" as a catch-all excuse. People play games to have fun, and you intentionally ruining other peoples games is not fun to them. Jokes are supposed to be funny, this is not. If you want to fool around like that then either find a full premade group of like-minded players to do that or just stick to single-player games.

P.S. If going pro was a waste of time then there wouldn't be professional digital athletes making money playing video games. Times change.

P.S.S. If you truly thought playing games was a waste of time then you wouldn't be spending your own time playing them. This just sounds like a poor excuse to try to justify your actions and avoid taking responsibility and it's not working. In fact I'd wager to guess that you only say this because you got permabanned and are still mad about it.

PULLEA PULIUKKO1 votes

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It was probably a manual review that got you here.

It may be funny to you but it's not to everyone else, and you can't use "just joking" as a catch-all excuse. People play games to have fun, and you intentionally ruining other peoples games is not fun to them. Jokes are supposed to be funny, this is not. If you want to fool around like that then either find a full premade group of like-minded players to do that or just stick to single-player games.

P.S. If going pro was a waste of time then there wouldn't be professional digital athletes making money playing video games. Times change.

P.S.S. If you truly thought playing games was a waste of time then you wouldn't be spending your own time playing them. This just sounds like a poor excuse to try to justify your actions and avoid taking responsibility and it's not working.

Free time activities that don't earn you money, strengthen you physically/improve health or include useful learning = wasting time

If you are stuck in d4 with like 1500 games or more per season, you aren't probably fulfilling any of the things above.

But of course, time wasting can be entertaining, which has some value on its own, I assume. Meant it that way.

CharDeeMcDenniz3 votes

[{quoted}](name=PULLEA PULIUKKO,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=YN4IhQfT,comment-id=0002000100010000,timestamp=2019-12-28T18:13:10.256+0000)

Free time activities that don't earn you money, strengthen you physically/improve health or include useful learning = wasting time

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so if someone has a super shitty day at work and they are really down in the dumps and their main escape is playing league to improve their mental health and get back into a better mood. That's a waste of time to you?

when you grow up a little you'll realize what a waste of your own time this was and nothing else

Jennifer171 votes

isnt the point of playing games to waste time? either in a good or bad way.

Ehhhh5 votes

Maybe dont do stuff like that in ranked then

Big Hugging Lug5 votes

I think you should see a therapist or psychiatrist.

Żügżwäng3 votes

Deserved. Nothing clever about it, you're just a liar taking advantage of people's trust and ruining their experience with the game. Extremely selfish.if you're bored of the game go to steam and buy yourself one of the many excellent games on sale.

Kazekiba1 votes

Fun fact: I dont agree with it, but your ban record NEVER expires.

If you were 14-day banned in season 2, your next ban will be Perma regardless

Upgrades2 votes

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Fun fact: I dont agree with it, but your ban record NEVER expires.

If you were 14-day banned in season 2, your next ban will be Perma regardless

Not true. You will go down the ladder with good behavior over time

Julevi2 votes

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Fun fact: I dont agree with it, but your ban record NEVER expires.

If you were 14-day banned in season 2, your next ban will be Perma regardless

That is not the case.

**But what if I Reform? Is it possible to go down the escalation path? ** >Yes! Players who show consistent reform or show positive behavior in their games will help heal their accounts reputation.

Source: https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ

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