Asking for Help is now 'Toxic.'

Nigel Moguberry··1 votes·732 views
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Asking for help is now considered Toxic. J2 week ban, and more than 1/2 of the chat was me asking for help.

Apparently saying "GG I guess," asnd asking your jungler to help any of the lanes when your 3 towers down is considered toxic.

Show me where I tell people to kill themselves, or wish cancer upon them.

The automated system seems to be working.

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ModFrom The Cosmos5 votes

I would probably not gank for you either if you spoke like that in-game. Especially considering you died to a Velkoz as Naut 6 minutes or so into the game. The match history doesn't show whether Poppy assisted on that kill so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it was a 2 vs 1 situation.

Your bot lane got first blood and your Lux got 4 kills before you died again, which was a death from a teamfight where you actually got a kill which put you at around 1/2 at the very least not counting any assists. After that it shows in the match history that laning phase was practically over and that both teams were contesting objectives.

So the fact that you only died once during laning phase doesn't warrant you acting like a total tool to your Jungler. Also, you spamming your mid laner to switch with you probably didn't help your team mentality.

My point here is that the situation you were in wasn't even that bad, but the way you spoke to your team probably brought morale down. It looks like Tahm even was assisting you in getting a kill and then you criticized him for making a mistake and eating the enemy before your ult hit. I'm willing to bet nobody criticized you when you died top at around 6:00 minutes. This is why you are receiving the punishment, it's because you are toxic when it's not even close to being reasonable.

I can understand being salty if poppy ganked you 20 times before 10 minutes and you were 0/10 or something, but you literally died once before the 12 minute mark where you actually died again and got a kill during the process. You also only have 1 death showing in top lane so you can't say laning phase screwed you over that bad.

This is why a lot of people don't take the punishment system seriously. It's because posts like this that try to take chat logs out of context and put the blame on someone else, or blaming the system entirely.

**EDIT: It's also important to note that no towers were taken before 14 or so minute so the first tower was taken after laning phase which doesn't match up with your story.

You also don't specify the ban length or whether it was a chat restriction. Which by the way, if you've received either of those, you likely have a history of the same behavior across multiple games or worse. One game does not give you a punishment. This was likely a result of multiple reports against you. The reason Riot sent you this chat log was probably due to it being the last reported game on you.**

Nigel Moguberry1 votes

The Death top was a 2v1.

So the fact that you only died once during laning phase doesn't warrant you acting like a total tool to your Jungler. Also, you spamming your mid laner to switch with you probably didn't help your team mentality.

I asked lux if she wanted to swap because Lux v Velkoz is a lot easier than Naut v Velkoz, especially with a poppy camping top.

When I asked tahm to help the lanes, it was right after we lost our first tower.

I don't know where you read that I got fucked over during laning phase. I wanted to swap because I couldn't farm effectively against Velkoz, w/ poppy also sitting top. I asked Tahm to help the lanes after we lost the first tower, and he proceeded to start running top and would devour me, spit me towards the enemy tower and then Spam Laugh.

Asking Lux twice, in a 5 min period if she wants to swap is spamming?

Asking Our jungler to help the lanes, when hes 0/0/0 @ 7 mins, while poppy is focusing on camping me, is toxic?

Tahm was trolling, but without any context you won't know that. Ulting top on CD, just to Devour me Spit me out Spam laugh, and then repeat it when it's back up. He gave up at level one because he didn't get his lane. He muted Me, and Lux, when we both asked for help.

Please.

ModFrom The Cosmos2 votes

You're right, I don't have context. Perhaps post a recording if you have one and it will help bring us some clarity.

Also, I find it hard to believe that Tahm was trolling. His match history reveals that he's actually quite successful on the champion. I'm willing to bet he got tilted by your behavior.

The point still stands that this one game wasn't the sole reason of your punishment. Riot has stated multiple occasions that it is never a result of just one game unless real life threats, racial/homophobic slurs are used, even then it can take more than one game.

Nigel Moguberry1 votes

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LukeTheSheppy1 votes

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And thats what I thought. I looked @ his history during loading and say that absurd Full Tank Tahm Kench Game. Asking him to help any of the lanes, which is HIS JOB as a JUNGLER, is clearly Toxic.

I don't know what you would call it then, but Ulting into someone lane numerous times, devouring them spitting them towards the enemy and spamming laugh is trolling.

I run into people every day that wish cancer upon others, or wish death upon their families, and still get to continue playing. <redacted>

Then you have kids like this - <redacted> who suicide down lane over and over, and there excuse is 'It's just a game."

Yet, out of all these people who intentionally feed, troll, or wish cancer and death upon people, Asking for help or for someone to do their job is toxic.

Censor the names. Name and shame will get your post removed.

Ziovi2 votes

it's not something i think you should be banned for. Your attitude could improve: you should try not to criticize your teammates in way that won't be useful to them, and if you need help or you want to make your ally notice a mistake he did, it would be better to try and make it sounds as a suggestion instead a complain.

That said, i repeat, i don't think this chat has anything you should be punished for. Nowadays people are way too sensible.

Nigel Moguberry1 votes

Compare those logs to thse.

This is what toxicity actually looks like.

http://imgur.com/idPnNJI

So we got people telling others to Die and Get Lynched like %%%%%%s. We got people suiciding down lane on purpose because they didn't get their lane.

Yet saying GG I guess, or asking for help is Toxic.

Lets not forget this in the summoners Code - And remember, while nobody likes being insulted, it pays to take a moment to consider the circumstances. Remember that this is a competitive game, and, more often than not, the other player is just venting their frustration.

People reporting someone for shit like "GG I Guess," or "Junglers AFK," clearly follows the summoner code.

Horse Grenades1 votes

I mean just because you break the law, but someone breaks it worse doesn't mean you won't get punished. All will get what they are owed. Riot doesn't have a "punish all those deserving" button. Quit being a tool in chat and you won't get reported.

Worked for me :)

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