Seriously Considering Never Playing Again (ridiculous chat ban)

kapate··2 votes·1,314 views

So I just received my second chatban in my 3+ years playing this game. I was chat banned two months ago for the first time for a questionable at best reason, I made a post about it so feel free to go back and read it. I was flamed by a premade of 4 who convinced the enemy team to all report me. I never use ALL chat so I have no way to defend myself. This time a toxic botlane duo decided to insult and flame me for having a bad start to a game.. 1/6 in the first 20 minutes. They called me many insults and continued to flame me and refused to surrender vote 3 times to "piss you off more". The other team had a very good lee sin who dived me under tower repeatedly with Katarina and I found no way to fight against it and suffered. Ontop of that Bot lane roamed to mid and sat in the lower bush multiple times. I was in a duo with my friend who did have ALL chat on and the bot lane started reporting my movements to the enemy team for the remainder of the game while convincing the enemy team to somehow report me as well (what kind of person reports someone who is getting there movements reported by the enemy team but doesn't say anything the entire game on all chat...enemy team literally flashed mastery taunt at me from 30 seconds onward the entire game so obviously not the best sports as it is). My friend refuses to get involved in any chat so he said nothing to them. Here is what riot has asked me to repent for... (fixed some spelling).

Game 1 kapate: ya kapate: at least your dash didn't go the opposite direction of your mouse kapate: mouse (Bot lane gets ganked by 3 people and dies, so I tried to make a point about warding and Pings) kapate: BOT LANE kapate: that's why you fucking ward kapate: and mia kapate: you didn't kapate: i was killed 6 strait fucking times kapate: by bot lane kapate: or bot jungle kapate: get blue wards kapate: getting dived under turret kapate: isn't feeding kapate: psa kapate: still happened... kapate: still was killed by him kapate: I'm salty cause you have no wards or pings kapate: ward kapate: and ping mia kapate: clearly kapate: so no difference then? (they threaten to not ping or ward or help me) kapate: how is that a threat kapate: we are going to keep doing the same shit we haven't been doing kapate: wow i better stop trying to work as a team kapate: ladeda kapate: you cant tp on turret kapate: they can just kill it kapate: just report toxic bot lane and move it kapate: on kapate: welp kapate: saw that coming kapate: surrender now toxic botlane? kapate: reported my movements on all chat? kapate: yeah no that's not toxic kapate: blame the kid that gets camped the first 20 mins kapate: yeah no thats not toxic kapate: i asked for a ping kapate: and they called me a %%%got kapate: you did kapate: scroll up kapate: and %%% kapate: wont make a difference kapate: the kid reported my movements on all chat kapate: thats a banable offence kapate: god forbid I asked for a ping kapate: riot saves game chats, its his own fault

This chat ban system is horrific, my bot lane can literally report my movements to the enemy team multiple times yet I sware twice, say nothing on ALL Chat and I get a chat ban. This is ridiculous. I want riot to let me remove chat all together from this game because I get nothing but negativity for trying to communicate or work as a team. I am sick of this community and its stupid flaming premades. And someone is going to comment below about how it was probably a pattern of negatitivty, but in my last 30ish games I have gotten over 40+ friendly/teamwork commendations. I know players who report people for saying anything constructive to them, I know people who report enemy teammates for outplaying them, the ban system is broken, If I get reported once every five for a bullshit reason I will just constantly be getting chat bans as soon as I get stuck with a premade who will spam all chat and get me 4 reports in a game.

18 Comments

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

You probably got punished because you were repeating their homophobic slurs. Even if you are simply repeating what someone else said it is still not ok. You don't need to defend yourself, the system isn't going to punish you based on what they said you did, but what you actually did. When you rise to their bait and engage in an argument you're just giving their reports validity, so simply mute and report them and they will be at risk of punishment while you are not.

pikkkkolo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XVse0lER,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-05T23:42:13.255+0000)

You probably got punished because you were repeating their homophobic slurs. Even if you are simply repeating what someone else said it is still not ok. You don't need to defend yourself, the system isn't going to punish you based on what they said you did, but what you actually did. When you rise to their bait and engage in an argument you're just giving their reports validity, so simply mute and report them and they will be at risk of punishment while you are not.

y is ur name in blue

BakaNerd2 votes

Because Deep Terror Nami is a God amongst us men and women.

kapate1 votes

I didn't repeat anything AT them, TOP lane was asking what they said because they claimed they didn't insult me, which was a lie... I was saying " you called me a %%%got how is that not insulting me or flaming me". I never called anyone anything as you can see on chat. If RIOT would just send the full chat log it would be obvious but instead they just send me mine.. Clearly if a human being read this they can see that this Chat Ban is completely unjustified.

Environmentalist2 votes

He means it's because you said the words, and the automated system picked up that you said them. Doesn't need to be directed at anyone.

ActivatingEMP2 votes

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He means it's because you said the words, and the automated system picked up that you said them. Doesn't need to be directed at anyone.

That's kind of fucked up

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

I have never seen it confirmed that it happens but its a possibility. I doubt that is actually what happened because he would more likely be 14 day banned if that was the case.

But I would submit a support ticket to double check. It is also important to remember that the logs they send you are just an example of your behavior. It isn't a complete list of everything your punishment was for.

kapate1 votes

Fair enough, but as I was saying I have had no conflicts since my last chat ban, it feels like this one is just the result of 4 or 5 reports in one game within a few months of my last chatban... I submitted a support ticket but there is no section for "unfair chat restrictions" or anything like that so I had to submit it as a technical ticket, odds they will throw it out without even reading it. That's why I posted it here, but I keep getting downvoted because I am a person complaining about a chatban and it seems like everyone on this Forum just auto downvotes it.

Surr20plz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XVse0lER,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-05T23:42:13.255+0000)

You probably got punished because you were repeating their homophobic slurs. Even if you are simply repeating what someone else said it is still not ok. You don't need to defend yourself, the system isn't going to punish you based on what they said you did, but what you actually did. When you rise to their bait and engage in an argument you're just giving their reports validity, so simply mute and report them and they will be at risk of punishment while you are not.

Yeah, except where does say to do this?

WHO KNOWS TO DO THIS UNTIL AFTER THEY'VE BEEN PUNISHED?

He didn't even say anything harssing back to them. He simply talked to them.

SEEEEEEMS LEGGGGGIT!

Hellboy ez2 votes

Yeah their punishment system is ridiculous and won't change anything because of how selfish and uncaring they are.

kapate1 votes

what the hell is wrong with this forum, why are they down voting you, you are right. Read the god damn chat, there is no way someone should lose out on all game rewards for months for the dialogue posted above. Are you really all that brainwashed to think that a system that flags explaining how other people were being dicks is working? This is clearly unfair, why is everyone on this forum so rediculous... it is honestly worse than the youtube comments section.

Cyst1 votes

Ever think the problem is YOU? I know self centered narcissists don't usually think like that...

This isn't a "banned" this is a warning with slap on hand.

The real ban is when riot closes your account... FOREVER

Environmentalist1 votes

kapate: BOT LANE kapate: that's why you fucking ward

kapate: i was killed 6 strait fucking times

Bro, that's why you ward.

kapate1 votes

I bought 10 pink wards in the game, Lee Sin was 10-0 before 10 minutes, and then just sat mid diving me under tower with Katarina Ult, as a Yasuo there was little I could do :( I was saying that after they got ganked and was trying to make a point.

Astôlfo1 votes

Cool, I guess this is goodbye. Bye bye~!

kapate1 votes

So what happens if everyone else follows suit, who do you play with? Obviously my word holds no sway and there will never be a situation where everyone stops playing, but if a ton of good players stop playing because they get flamed by dickhead premades doesn't the community and the toxicity just get worse? I am asking for a solution for everyone who has been screwed over by this Bias broken system, not just myself. Riot is making Billions of dollars, the very least they could do is actually review these cases one by one instead of giving out autobans. Like how many chat restrictions are handed out a day, there's no way someone can just read the chat logs and decide if they are legit or not? They can easily afford to pay a few hundred people to do this.

kapate1 votes

I don't understand why I am being downvoted, If you think I am wrong explain why. This is some of the most tame dialogue I have ever seen in league. If I can't even explain to TOP lane who wasn't paying attention what bot lane said to me without getting a chat ban the system is BROKEN. I would, at this point, prefer the option of just turning off chat all together. Upvote this, this needs visibility. Everyone in this forum just auto downvotes you if you complain about the chat restrictions...Every post, even if the poster is completely right.

Korkalek1 votes

We don't have access to the full file. How many time do you give lessons and are condescending to you teamates ? How many time do you say EZ to enemy when you win ? How many little thing that can get you reported for no good reason on your others games ?

We can't know, you'll probably say none. But I've never seen a player I know to be blameless get even chat restricted.

The few buddy I know who managed to get any kind of sanction ... they're not always clean. Not really toxic ... but they like to taunt enemy, and let teammates know when they are doing bad. Might not be random that they ended up restricted for something that seemed pretty tame.

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