In the low levels of where new players and smurfs lie, there is no communication at all. Every single game there's someone who is stuck with support and because of it they go Yasuo, Shaco, Riven, etc. and just run it down mid. Every game, this is tiring. I have 6 champions Riot. What am I supposed to do? I want to be able to have as fair a chance as anyone else would in draft.
NinjaGuy693 votesThere's always the option to grind for IP through Bot Games. Sure, they may not be exciting but from my experience having played hundreds of Bot Games when I was a new player, they're far less toxic than other game modes. Plus, you also gain experience playing bot games and I believe you can play Draft Mode when you hit level 10 (you also have to own at least 20 champions - but the 10 Free Week Rotation champions also count so you technically only need to own 10 champions). It takes time and patience but you'll eventually get there.
You can also play ARAM starting at level 6, so I'd recommend trying it out. It can be fun and help take the edge off of playing Blind Pick sometimes.
Aterpater2 votesAfaik you have to be lvl 30 to go draft, as you have to have a full mastery page and access to runes.
NinjaGuy691 votesAfaik you have to be lvl 30 to go draft, as you have to have a full mastery page and access to runes.
I might have confused it with Blind Pick actually haha. My bad there.
Aterpater2 votesIt seems it turned out it's my bad actually and you were right :-)
NinjaGuy693 votesIt seems it turned out it's my bad actually and you were right :-)
Good to know. It's been a long time since I've started playing so my memory isn't as good when it comes to minor details.
mercyplzzz2 votesNo you have to be level 10 to play draft, 30 to play ranked draft. I have 16 champions (including the 10 free) and did play draft on this account.
Aterpater1 votesOh okay, my bad then. But why don't you just play draft then and leave blind pick as the rest of us do?
mercyplzzz2 votesIf you read the whole thing, you'd realize I CAN'T because I don't have 20 champions.
Aterpater2 votesI do apologise, I read it 2 hours ago why I first replied but forgot this point. Well, then I don't know what, I know it sucks :/ I still think that you really need a bit more champs to properly play draft. But if I'm honest I see a lot of one trick ponies in ranked draft who just dodge or troll when they can't play the one single champ what they always play (though I believe being a "one trick" is a terrible idea in a MOBA...).
What solution would you like?
mercyplzzz2 votesIf you read the post, this isn't just about new players. Smurfs suffer from this too. I, if you haven't guessed already, am a smurf. Look at my match history. I'm a one trick Darius. Even then, what's so hard about playing draft mode? The banning system is as simple as checking your bank account, you click on what you want to see (or ban) and dunzo.
Aterpater1 votesOh... :D In this case:
Anyway, no offense (and I mean it) but after these I can't really sympathise with you.
mercyplzzz1 votesSmurf is "noob"? That's ridiculous. People smurf all the time, and there's literally smurf match making in League of Legends. People who smurf aren't bronze. =/ And also, your personal opinion on one tricks makes your point more valid? My personal opinion on one tricks is that since they play a champion consistently, they have experience on that champion than any other person would have on any other champion. That doesn't help me prove the fact that smurfs and new players suffer from only being able to play blind.
Aterpater1 votesSmurf is "noob"? That's ridiculous. People smurf all the time
Yep, smurfing is a bad thing. And if you aren't challenger elo there's not even an excuse to do it. There's a reason why DoTA is implementing a phone verification system to get rid of smurfs once and for all. And the thing that people do it "all the time" isn't an arguement. It never made anything right...
and there's literally smurf match making in League of Legends
If you think about the hidden mmr thing what places you in matches higher than your rank, that's actually made to discourage smurfing...
People who smurf aren't bronze.
99% of them are.
And also, your personal opinion on one tricks makes your point more valid?
That isn't my personal opinion but the very basics of any MOBA game. And as I'm playing MOBAs since DoTA 5.84, I have some clue about them (even if I'm fresh to LoL). If it wasn't like this, there wasn't a champ pool requirement for ranked play and veteran players wouldn't argue on the side of autofill that you have to be competent not just with many champs but even in several roles otherwise you are just bad in the game...
My personal opinion on one tricks is that since they play a champion consistently, they have experience on that champion than any other person would have on any other champion.
Yes, they are competent with one single champ. And they play it even if it's the worst pick for the current role or situation. Or just dodge the queue usually... :) Btw the fact that they lack practice with other champs make them harder to counter those champs or to have a better understanding of the macrogame.
That doesn't help me prove the fact that smurfs and new players suffer from only being able to play blind.
Yep, new players suffer because they don't have enough experience with enough champs to play draft. It shouldn't be a problem but based on how blind matches look like in practice filled with trolls, it sucks, I do argee. But as a smurf you suffer from a system what actually made to make you suffer as a price for your fun with stomping on poor newbies instead of facing players at your level. They are trying to discourage you, you know...
50000000000000002 votesI'm guessing that the reason is because even if you can see the enemy team, you won't know what to pick to counter their comp, or pick to build a good team comp. Blind pick is definitely terrible, though.
Aterpater2 votesThe idea behind blind pick was to just pick whoever you want and play him/her the way you want. But as most of LoL's community seems like kind of dumb if it's about creativity, they forced a very strict "meta"-setup and they try to strictly follow it even in blind picks. Btw afaik Riot seriously fought against that meta through a long time when they finally gave up... especially that no other MOBA has this, not even DoTA. Double times funny that as the skill level rises you will see it less and less strict, with many roaming and lane-swapping and such... e.g. just watch a pro match. In its current state it's more than terrible, I agree. I don't even play it, max with premades.
Anyway, the problems why you won't be perfectly satisfied with draft pick:
mercyplzzz1 votesAll I want is to be able to play at a minimum risk of someone saying "oh gg gonna int now have fun not even gonna surrender when it hits 15 hehexd". And since Riot only allows it when you have 20 champions, I'm fed up.
Aeszarck2 votesBlind has to be the option because new players can't jungle, and Draft requires a jungler. Blind Pick is also the fastest and most simple lobby for new players to understand. Lastly, it requires no Champions to play Blind Pick.
mercyplzzz1 votesYour first point: Riot can change smite to allow new players to use. Your second point: your saying draft is hard? Oh my, clicking on the champion I want to ban and then clicking on the champion I want to play really must be hard. Your third point: So, as my post suggests, Riot should give 20 free champions to play, not 10.
Aeszarck1 votesYour first point: Riot can change smite to allow new players to use. Your second point: your saying draft is hard? Oh my, clicking on the champion I want to ban and then clicking on the champion I want to play really must be hard. Your third point: So, as my post suggests, Riot should give 20 free champions to play, not 10.
It's not that easy, jungle is not a role that level 1 players shoulf be learning. It is hard enough without ten levels of masteries and runes, and that doesn't even take into account the knowledge required to jungle, which is quite a lot compared to what it takes to be a laner. I'm saying that draft is harder. Stop being so condescending, I'm having a discussion with you. The harder it is to jump into playing League of Legends, the less likely players are to stay. Your post never suggested that last thing. All it does is complain how unfair blind pick is.
mercyplzzz1 votesKids don't go to school right after they're born because they have to learn a few things about life first. When someone plays league of legends for the first time, whether they're an adult or a 12 year old with fidget spinners, they most likely understand how to work YouTube. I understood from an early time of playing League what jungle was. Competence is a thing. I'm not being condecending. I'm just not happy with the fact that you're making points that are completely invalid, unless there's a 60 year old who has never touched technology before (like my dad) which does not apply to the majority of new players, much less League players. My post states that I own 6 champions, but I need 10 to play draft. One way to fix that would be to change free to play to 20 champions. O.O
Kei1431 votesthere is no such thing as a support role in blind pick. just play whatever you want in which ever position
Itsbeghdev1 votesor at least low level blind pick... but that's precisely what the complaint is about anyhow.
Kei1431 votesI always say "fk the meta" when it comes to blind pick
mercyplzzz1 votesThere's a difference between "fk the meta" and 'running-it-down-mid-because-you-didnt-get-the-role-you-wanted' which happens much too often.
Kei1431 voteshow do you get a role when you fk the meta?
Jo0o1 votesI don't envy new players at all.
mercyplzzz1 votesNot the point of this post, but okay.
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