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Perma banned, wanted to hear you guys out and what you think

McSiggs··5 votes·967 views
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Hey all, you don't need to read it all but these are the last 3 games I was given for the reasoning of my perma ban. I have received 7 including this one, as forms of punishment. I wanted to hear peoples opinions and help me reform a little more. I feel like I have an enjoy playing this game to this day. One thing that helped me reform was the fact that I lost all privileges of an account where I spent precious time and money in. I Also will post a link to another thread of and idea I pointed out earlier in the week. Hope to hear from you guys! P.S. and if a Rioter would like to check these logs out, I would love to hear your opinion as well. Honestly my Christmas wish would be to earn the account back, but I have accepted my fate. I honestly felt the perma ban was not worthy seeing as I was more annoying than anything else. But its in the past so without further a do..... Game 1 McSiggs: ok McSiggs: graves camp top McSiggs: hes pushed McSiggs: whole time McSiggs: bye bye everyone McSiggs: cuz u let him McSiggs: gg McSiggs: no McSiggs: i dont want help McSiggs: let me push McSiggs: lol u cant help against swain? McSiggs: lol McSiggs: u was in tower McSiggs: dude McSiggs: lmfao McSiggs: whatever McSiggs: gl with 4v5 McSiggs: must be nice McSiggs: sad we going to lose McSiggs: and graves gonna feel stupid McSiggs: no McSiggs: dont come top McSiggs: leave me alone McSiggs: lose McSiggs: and understand why u lost McSiggs: they camp me McSiggs: and push my lane McSiggs: nope McSiggs: report graves McSiggs: admitted to boosting McSiggs: didnt camp McSiggs: pressutre McSiggs: anythig McSiggs: now we will lose McSiggs: muted for awhile now McSiggs: plz beat us McSiggs: camille imma gift us kin McSiggs: you a skin McSiggs: i want graves to apologize McSiggs: nah dude McSiggs: must be nice to pick solo q jungler McSiggs: dont tell me gj McSiggs: i want graves to lose McSiggs: shut McSiggs: it McSiggs: didnt know graves was lee sin McSiggs: lmfao McSiggs: have i done antying to get banned for? McSiggs: in fact McSiggs: youre toxic McSiggs: whats wrong graves McSiggs: not doing so hot McSiggs: its okay bud McSiggs: u will get there McSiggs: i believe in you McSiggs: dw McSiggs: graves will carry us McSiggs: i believe it McSiggs: been doing it all game McSiggs: graves doing well guys McSiggs: he will carry us McSiggs: im proud of graves McSiggs: i wish him the best McSiggs: im wishing u luck McSiggs: and complemtning your play McSiggs: oh man next time graves youll get it McSiggs: ? McSiggs: wow so close graves McSiggs: i dont McSiggs: im hoping he carries us McSiggs: heyyy not nice McSiggs: i never said any of that McSiggs: check chat logs McSiggs: go ahead man McSiggs: gj guys McSiggs: u 2 graves Game 2 McSiggs: lol McSiggs: i lost so much cs with these gfights McSiggs: im behind McSiggs: let me split push McSiggs: plz McSiggs: wukong go tank McSiggs: blitz McSiggs: stay with adc McSiggs: wu McSiggs: go McSiggs: dude McSiggs: lol McSiggs: u had ult McSiggs: youre ult McSiggs: and i will clean up McSiggs: blitz McSiggs: what are u doing McSiggs: k McSiggs: no i ignore all chat McSiggs: any chat McSiggs: to try and win McSiggs: except when i see something boosted af McSiggs: where has wukong been McSiggs: nice McSiggs: he gonna be big for us McSiggs: lol thresh McSiggs: the whole team McSiggs: wukong McSiggs: i have not seen u ukt McSiggs: plz ult once wukong McSiggs: peeel McSiggs: your ult is dmg dude McSiggs: u rip through people McSiggs: wukong uve played youre champ before? McSiggs: lol McSiggs: why pick wu then in ranked McSiggs: i mean i do worry regardless McSiggs: i checked your stats McSiggs: lol wukong McSiggs: had ult McSiggs: im gonna split push from now on McSiggs: cant stay fighting with wu McSiggs: nope McSiggs: im reporting u McSiggs: dont troll pick in ranked McSiggs: not with random junglers McSiggs: dude u got carried those games McSiggs: jesus McSiggs: wukong plz McSiggs: man McSiggs: dont ruin peoples games McSiggs: 0-5 McSiggs: if u engage its over McSiggs: we win McSiggs: k McSiggs: go tank and get ga McSiggs: knock em up and ziggs and i will kill McSiggs: plz McSiggs: blitz McSiggs: youre ult is a silence McSiggs: blitz McSiggs: silence McSiggs: so they cant use abilities McSiggs: blitz pl McSiggs: i will report u too McSiggs: cant ziggs McSiggs: the master baits McSiggs: yp McSiggs: u got cauvht McSiggs: by gayron McSiggs: lol McSiggs: yup McSiggs: it was your fault McSiggs: ziggs McSiggs: jesus McSiggs: nope McSiggs: DO IT McSiggs: START McSiggs: plz McSiggs: k im done McSiggs: wukong wasnt even their McSiggs: wukong not even jungling McSiggs: dont care if he is a "zac main: McSiggs: nowe needed smite McSiggs: dude McSiggs: u play bots? McSiggs: im reporting u McSiggs: report wukong McSiggs: plz report wukong he is inting McSiggs: care for tf McSiggs: blitz had fun? Game 3 McSiggs: gj rek McSiggs: that was coo McSiggs: cool McSiggs: this ziggs 1 shot me McSiggs: wtf McSiggs: reksai come to our lane when we alive plz McSiggs: had no ganks McSiggs: youve been top all game McSiggs: must be nice to have a jungler McSiggs: chrust McSiggs: nah McSiggs: never heard of one McSiggs: i guess its a free win McSiggs: no peel McSiggs: no anything McSiggs: no ganks McSiggs: what u expect McSiggs: yall take my farm McSiggs: gj guys McSiggs: spending time top really helped McSiggs: inting? McSiggs: never seen jungler McSiggs: i get 1 shot McSiggs: and my support lave me McSiggs: u see their braum McSiggs: thats a suppot McSiggs: its true man McSiggs: reksai doesnt care much for adc McSiggs: so make it 4v5 yah McSiggs: wouild of been nice to have an adc huh McSiggs: nobody cares about me here McSiggs: he didnt show up once to bot McSiggs: see my hp McSiggs: lol McSiggs: this rek McSiggs: u guys play 4v5 McSiggs: i can only split McSiggs: nice smite McSiggs: next time go toyour bot laner McSiggs: just once plz McSiggs: help your adc McSiggs: it doesnt hurt dude McSiggs: reksai has tilted me so ahrd McSiggs: trade jungler plz McSiggs: HELP BOT McSiggs: im done McSiggs: not even worth McSiggs: nah dude McSiggs: i wouldnt hav died this many times if it wasnt for rek McSiggs: all he had to do was come bot once McSiggs: or if i had a support McSiggs: stop tilting me McSiggs: ggwp McSiggs: if you had an ad carry right? McSiggs: thta didnt feed right? McSiggs: a "good adc right?" McSiggs: tried o hard rek McSiggs: honors to rek

35 Comments

ModThe Djinn6 votes

{quoted}I wanted to hear peoples opinions and help me reform a little more.

I honestly felt the perma ban was not worthy seeing as I was more annoying than anything else.

So I'll address these both at the same time.

If you were really toxic before, you HAVE improved. This chat almost certainly only earned you a permanent ban because you got punished several times: even chat that would normally earn just a chat restriction can get you a permanent ban if it happens again and again and again even after warnings.

What's tripping you up now is constant negativity, minor harassment, giving up, and generally getting into arguments. It's the little stuff compounding on itself.

First suggestion? Embrace losing. It'll ideally happen 50% of the time if League gets your MMR right. Further, understand that 50% of your own games will feature below-average performance by you -- and that that is true for EVERYONE in the game. Maybe one of your teammates is just having a bad game. Maybe three of them are. IT HAPPENS. Stop fretting the little stuff -- yes, that includes losses -- and just work on three things.

1 -- Playing as well as you possibly can in each game. Note that that means as well as the game will allow you to -- don't harass your teammates just because if they had done something you could have done MORE.

2 -- Controlling your desire to engage. If you have something to say about camping, ganking, feeding, etc? Either don't say it, or say it once and then drop it. Don't get into arguments, and don't grind people down.

3 -- Being as good a teammate as possible in terms of building team spirit, NOT in terms of winning. Trust me -- this is a good thing to practice. Scan everything you type before you send it. Think about whether or not it will foster team unity. I've lost track of the number of losing games I've won (or at least turned into fun, friendly experiences) by making it a goal to try to bring my team together and make sure everyone has fun, regardless of whether or not we ultimately end up winning.

If you do all of these things, your enjoyment of the game at your MMR -- whatever it may be -- will likely increase. Additionally, the focus on building team unity and playing to the best of your ability no matter the circumstances around you WILL end up improving your win rate over time. So don't worry about the rank number or the losses -- just work on enjoying the game wherever you happen to be, and work on personal improvement. The fact that that happens to be the best way to actually gain rank AND STAY THERE instead of bouncing up and down as the system tries to kick you back to where it feels you belong is an added bonus. :)

MUSHROOM MIDGET2 votes

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First suggestion? Embrace losing. It'll ideally happen 50% of the time if League gets your MMR right. Further, understand that 50% of your own games will feature below-average performance by you -- and that that is true for EVERYONE in the game. Maybe one of your teammates is just having a bad game. Maybe three of them are. IT HAPPENS. Stop fretting the little stuff -- yes, that includes losses -- and just work on three things.

if everyone in league learned this it would greatly reduce toxicity. you are going to lose half your games in league. period. accept losing and you will be able to enjoy losses more and be less upset with losses.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

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if everyone in league learned this it would greatly reduce toxicity. you are going to lose half your games in league. period. accept losing and you will be able to enjoy losses more and be less upset with losses.

Yep. League shouldn't be a game of winning and losing -- it's a game of improving as a player ON YOUR OWN TERMS, whether you win or you lose. The rank is a nice way to keep track of that, but if you're only playing the game to win there are other games without the MMR system aiming for about a 50/50 win/loss rate that may appeal more to you. :)

Talï1 votes

Where a lot of people get caught up, or at least where I got caught up, is severe losing sprees, while maintaining a solid or optimal personal score.

MUSHROOM MIDGET1 votes

yeah it can definitely be frustrating. i just try to remember that i will end up near 50%. that means every time i go on a losing spree a winning streak is in my future to get me back to 50%.

edit: it also is in the back of my mind that every time im on a winning streak ive got some losses on the way. but you cant have everything.

Talï1 votes

Fair enough. I personally have a significantly higher loss percentage than win percentage but I could easily be one of the very few with MMR issues.

MUSHROOM MIDGET1 votes

it will balance out. 99% of the players i have ever seen that have played at least 300 games have a winrate between 52-48%

Talï1 votes

Thanks for the optimism, but im afraid it will not balance out as I have been perma-banned lmao

McSiggs1 votes

Thanks man I really appreciated this :)

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}

Thanks man I really appreciated this :)

Always happy to help. :)

If you find yourself struggling or tilting in the future (assuming you end up making a new account), taken an immediate break -- cool down, collect yourself, and find a distraction before diving back into League.

If you need any other advice, drop me a line. :)

McSiggs1 votes

Thanks mate, and yes I have two other accounts. One is my now main, and one is just leveling up to 30. Yeah I am fully committed to the boards now and I am willing to try and make our community better. I will always advocate for those who reform and the eventual day Riot would consider not just removing/deleting accounts due to inactivity, but to allow ex-banned players to earn their accounts back. Have a great one bud and good luck in your games :)

Chønklord4 votes

You're constantly argumentative, and if this is a regular, consistent behavioral pattern in all your games, then yes, over time small toxicity like this turns into penalties turns into permaban.

You said you've had SEVEN permabanned accounts?

And yet you're here trying to understand how to reform?

The road is hard....

All I can suggest is, stop arguing so much with people in chat and focus on the game.

If your account was able to be allowed to "decay" in punishment tiers (e.g. you stopped using chat for say, 6 months and just played games that time), and you did something like these chat logs in a game here or there, then no it wouldn't get you any punishment. I know, because I have chat logs very similar to these on and off when I get frustrated, and I have to constantly remind myself never insult someone else, stop arguing with toxic players, focus on the game, and be very, very selective of my choice of words and how my "tone" of chat comes across.

Sometimes we get angry and frustrated, and occasionally vent that out in chat especially when we feel as though our teammates are not taking it seriously/trolling/making poor decisions/etc -- but you always have to make sure that you control your own words and actions and don't fall into a repetitive cycle of argumentative, confrontational and derisive chatting.

McSiggs1 votes

No not 7 perma bans, God that would be awful. 7 punishments, as in chat restrictions included. In the beginning before the IFS was in place, I was toxic occasionally and got like 10 game chat restrictions. This was the 7th final punishment on this particular account. I appreciate the comment btw, it really helps :)

ModPeriscope3 votes

Game 1: grieving/giving up and harassing graves. Game 2:grieving/giving up and harassing Wu Kong Game 3: Grieving/giving up and harassing jg and support.

If this is your 7th ban, what makes you want to reform now?

You can submit a support ticket if you disagree.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

{quoted}If this is your 7th ban, what makes you want to reform now?

The fact that he stated it. On this board we should offer help when it is asked for, not doubt intent. Sure, I've seen some people who are insincere, but seriously -- we can do better than simply discounting his request for opinions and suggestions.

You're normally pretty on point with your comments, but I think you missed the mark a bit here. :P

ModPeriscope2 votes

Ya I misread that he'd been permabanned 7 times. I needed to be called out!

McSiggs1 votes

yeah a few others did too haha :)

McSiggs2 votes

This isn't my 7th ban, this was the 7th punishment. I received chat restrictions before. And yes I was annoying, sure I was harassing, but I never used harsh verbal language or was homophobic or racist.....

Kei1431 votes

mild harassment is still a form of harassment. Over large number of games, you'll still get punished for it.

Now my question is: do you understand the punishment ladder? Cos that is why you got permabanned.

ModPeriscope1 votes

Reading comprehension helps, am I right? I was like, damn, who puts themselves through 7 accounts? That is some determination. Sorry for misreading what you said.

I would say refrain from giving up in game. It is easy to look at a game as hopeless and at times, many on the Rift will look that way. Regardless, you're stuck there for at least 20 minutes; giving up only lessens players' experience, and more importantly, their expectations of you in the game. Can we engage if he's not participating? Is he going to group when we have a numbers advantage? Why should I keep playing if he's going to give up?

On the harassing / singling others out: it's tough when you have bad teammates, but persistently berating them is going to get you reported, and it doesn't help your team win the game.

McSiggs2 votes

Yeah I am doing pretty well now, usually whenever I'm tilted and tempted to flame I just mute all I also keep my all chat filtered on. Thanks for the comment :)

Mizuki Zahra3 votes

90% of your chat isn't game related at all why?

McSiggs1 votes

I'll be honest, in those games I was tilted, and I believed they were in a span of 3 days playing. I had probably gotten off the 14 day about a few more weeks after it ended, and which case I had then received the perma. When I was tilted I guess the negativity and toxicity just took over and I didn't realize I should of put my focus and frustration in effort to try and win the game. Regardless if others were inting (based on my perspective). Thanks for the comment btw :)

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

I play every day for hours and have some of the worse toxic teammates and I haven't tilted yet lol I just find it funny like this one game rengar was doing bad everyone was doing but me I was slightly carrying and then a 5v5 turned into a 5v1 I died they aced us and rengar just spams "thanks traulecian u thre the game" "trasdc trasdc...etc" for the final minute of the game and im like lol he mad and trying to tilt me

Last avatarname3 votes

I really dislike accounts getting perma'd and if I had to give you 1 tip to keep your acounts it has to be:

only ever talk if it is used to gain a tactical advantage, that is what chat is for.

McSiggs1 votes

Thanks man, I eventually started to learn that. Good luck in your games :)

Angrychickén2 votes

Asking for reports is a punishable offense. Did you know that?

Not saying that this is the only reason you got banned, but it can't have hurt.

McSiggs1 votes

Yes I learned that within the beginning of the pre season when Riot was implementing in one of those patches. I usually don't ask for reports in game, I would ask for on post game screen, especially if it was a loss and the teammate was either super toxic/racist etc.

Angrychickén1 votes

No.

It's bannable.

Period.

Also, more reports don't matter. If someone is reported, then the game is reviewed, doesn't matter if it was on report or all nine players.

Chønklord1 votes

Technically according to Riot, calling for reports is not punishable.

But it's still vague.

Live2LetDie1 votes

You argue like a feminist trying to make a point. Just play the game.

Chønklord6 votes

http://images.memes.com/meme/359605

Jo0o1 votes

Jesus, you just argued the entire game away.

LegendaryLing1 votes

yEAH YOU DESERVE TO BE BAN. You keep saying GG,,,, You said goodluck in a 4v5.... Yeah this ban is 100% justified

McSiggs1 votes

I appreciate your thought, thanks bud :)

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