Low Elo Supports

TenthCommandment·2/20/2020, 9:29:35 AM·1 votes·3,320 views

Listen buddies. Stop hitting the minion wave when you have no idea how to manage minion waves. Maybe your ADC doesn't understand how minion wave management works either, but don't. Maybe they do and you could screw up the whole minion wave. It's not game deciding usually, but it definitely can change who's in the lead of bot lane. When I play in low elo ADC, this is a very common and annoying thing that happens. It doesn't define me losing the game, but god it's annoying being 200 gold away from B.F. sword on my first back and I can't stay in lane or else I'll die and I see that sona has 6 minions somehow or just made me miss minions. Something a lot of supports do including in diamond 4 elo, is use abilities that also hit minions when they're low. For example, Sona will try to q poke through minions since it prioritizes champs when they're also in range, though 1 q will hit the enemy ad, and the 2nd will hit my cannon that I was waiting to get low so I can last hit which results me in losing so cannon. Or Xerath who tries to Q to hit enemy laners, but neglect to realize they hit the entire minion wave basically forcing you to shove into their tower or setting a slow push. Sometimes they just take all your cs that way because caster minions aren't that tanky or u lowered some minions. TLDR; Stop using ablities that will hit minions too while trying to poke. It ruins cs and wave management.

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Creamy Eevee2/20/2020, 12:13:45 PM8 votes

Low Elo ADCS

Listen pals. Stop hitting the enemy bot when you have no idea how to manage health. Maybe your support doesn't have cooldowns or abilities to peel yet. Maybe they do and you could screw up the whole lane. It's not game deciding usually, but it definitely can change who's in the lead of bot lane. When I play in low elo Support, this is a very common and annoying thing that happens. It doesn't define me losing the game, but god it's annoying being 200 gold away from forbidden idol on my first back and I can't stay in lane or else I'll die and get tower dove 1v2. Something a lot of adcs do (including in diamond 4 elo) is face tank an enemy adc and get caught by the enemy support's cc. For example, Tristana will try to auto poke through minions when they're also in the enemy's wave, though 1 auto will hit the enemy adc, and the enemy support will cc my trist that I have to flash so I can get in range which results me in burning heal. Or Ashe who tries to Q to hit enemy laners, but neglect to realize they are exposed outside the wave basically forcing you to rescue them or them dieing then me. Sometimes they just die that way because they got greedy, aren't that fed or got cocky. TLDR; Stop facetanking the enemy laners while trying to poke. It ruins summoner spells and exp.

No one suspects Neeko to not be Neeko and to be not Neeko instead.

RebeccaUCuber2/20/2020, 9:46:07 AM3 votes

While trying to avoid the wave Is good when you poke as support, doing some autos at the wave gives lane pressure and avoids bad situation like the Classic 4v2 dive Fiesta in bot lane. ADC cant apply priority alone in all matchups, so giving a Little pressure gives so much advantage that 2 Minions don't make the difference.

Then there are support Who just Perma shove like you said...and that Is not good at all.

Kei1432/20/2020, 12:17:16 PM2 votes

Skill capped challenger says otherwise.

https://youtu.be/d56866Xb4G0

Read the comments afterwards as well.

Unker1392/21/2020, 2:23:44 AM2 votes

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Listen buddies. Stop hitting the minion wave when you have no idea how to manage minion waves. Maybe your ADC doesn't understand how minion wave management works either, but don't. Maybe they do and you could screw up the whole minion wave. It's not game deciding usually, but it definitely can change who's in the lead of bot lane. When I play in low elo ADC, this is a very common and annoying thing that happens. It doesn't define me losing the game, but god it's annoying being 200 gold away from B.F. sword on my first back and I can't stay in lane or else I'll die and I see that sona has 6 minions somehow or just made me miss minions. Something a lot of supports do including in diamond 4 elo, is use abilities that also hit minions when they're low. For example, Sona will try to q poke through minions since it prioritizes champs when they're also in range, though 1 q will hit the enemy ad, and the 2nd will hit my cannon that I was waiting to get low so I can last hit which results me in losing so cannon. Or Xerath who tries to Q to hit enemy laners, but neglect to realize they hit the entire minion wave basically forcing you to shove into their tower or setting a slow push. Sometimes they just take all your cs that way because caster minions aren't that tanky or u lowered some minions. TLDR; Stop using ablities that will hit minions too while trying to poke. It ruins cs and wave management.

I've been yelled at for hitting the minions and I've been yelled at for not hitting the minions. Supports can't win either way.

hyperion31822/20/2020, 9:57:02 AM2 votes
NF Remilia2/20/2020, 1:09:40 PM1 votes

Stop hitting the minion wave when you have no idea how to manage minion waves. Maybe your ADC doesn't understand how minion wave management works either,

Then whats the problem? they both have no idea what the F they are doing lol

Smiling Frog2/20/2020, 3:17:57 PM1 votes

Only bad adc will stay in lane for bf sword, after killing ennemy on the lane you push the wave and recall so your support can go near mid maybe gank or deep vision on the ennemy jungler its called tempo and macro. lets talk about adc that dont heal the support during a trade.

GatekeeperTDS2/20/2020, 11:50:58 AM1 votes

Queue for support if you're so good at it.