@Keyru, I'm confused as to what is the purpose of this section of boards?

Amachy··2 votes·822 views

{quoted} > > Confused over a punishment you received? > Not sure why your Boards post got edited or deleted? > Have questions about how the Player Behavior systems work? > > We’ve got you covered. This Board is all about answering these types of questions. Between the Arbiter volunteer program and Rioters, we will provide as much feedback and information as we can. > > Remember, the more information you provided, the more helpful we can be. Help us help you!

Your mods just deleted my Thread asking why a recent a thread of mine was removed in a section dedicated for this. Why not just have theCurator ban this account since she's clearly picking on me by stacking warnings?

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ModMod Curator4 votes

You already created a discussion in GD about your post removal and received a response. Making more in other sub-Boards isn't going to change the answer. If you'd like to discuss this with Riot instead of Moderation, you can submit a ticket to Player Support.

Amachy1 votes

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You already created a discussion in GD about your post removal and received a response. Making more in other sub-Boards isn't going to change the answer. If you'd like to discuss this with Riot instead of Moderation, you can submit a ticket to Player Support.

This wasnt the discussion and was more specific as to why it isnt ok to post a picture of a cropped out mouth from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5WmG-LKhwA Which you havent even bothered to give me a valid answer for, you've automatically deleted and warned me for making a thread asking why was my original post removed , and you're continuously deleting most of my posts in order to stack warnings, but not only that you're preventing me from showing the actual harmless thread so it wont make your moderation look bad. What gives? Why is it so bad to ask if a picture of Morello's cropped face will get me banned on this section of boards which is dedicated to questions like these?

ModMod Curator4 votes

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This is wasnt the discussion and was more specific as to why it isnt ok to post a picture of a cropped out mouth from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5WmG-LKhwA Which you havent even bothered to give me a valid answer for, you've automatically deleted and warned me for making a thread asking why was my post removed in the first, and you're continuously deleting most of my posts in order to stack warnings, but not only that you're preventing me from showing the actual harmless thread so it wont make your moderation look bad. What gives? Why is so bad to ask if a picture of Morello's cropped face will get me banned on this section of boards which is dedicated to this?

We removed your initial post because you included an image of the post including the content that the post was removed for. I'm sorry if you don't understand why that's not allowed, but it isn't.

Your next post was removed because you already had opened a discussion about the removal and received an answer. Opening another won't get you a different answer, no matter how hard you try.

If you'd like to no longer get an answer from Moderation about your removals, then you can submit a ticket to Player Support and get a response from Riot.

Amachy1 votes

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We removed your initial post because you included an image of the post including the content that the post was removed for. I'm sorry if you don't understand why that's not allowed, but it isn't.

Your next post was removed because you already had opened a discussion about the removal and received an answer. Opening another won't get you a different answer, no matter how hard you try.

If you'd like to no longer get an answer from Moderation about your removals, then you can submit a ticket to Player Support and get a response from Riot.

You never gave me an answer, you simply deleted the thread, and issued out a warning.

Hey Amachy, While we do allow a number of topics that can be discussed about, there are some areas of discussion which are better left to other community platforms. The post has been removed and linked below:

Why not just give the long answer here? Isnt this what this so called "Transparent/visible Moderation" is all about? You're aware that tickets submitted to the behavior team about a deleted thread/post will result in a 2 week response right?

ModMod Curator4 votes

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You never gave me an answer, you simply deleted the thread, and issued out a warning. While we do allow a number of topics that can be discussed about, there are some areas of discussion which are better left to other community platforms. The post has been removed and linked below:

Why not just give the long answer here? Isnt this what this so called "Transparent Moderation" is all about? You're aware that tickets submitted to the behavior team about a deleted thread/post will result in a 2 week response right?

Actually, i did answer you and you quoted it in full in your post in GD. I'll put it here for continued clarity.

{quoted} Posting removed content in an image will result in escalated punishment for the same offense. Your post was considered inappropriate per the Boards rules and was removed. If you wish to discuss this with Riot, you can submit a ticket to Player Support, but we won't discuss it here as that topic is not allowed on the Boards.

Also, there's a difference between Visible Moderation, which we practice here, and Transparent Moderation, which you keep referencing. Visible Moderation is a player's ability to post about removals and get an answer from Moderation letting them know why it was removed or directing them to Riot to discuss it if it's not something that can't be discussed on the Boards.

Amachy1 votes

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Actually, i did answer you and you quoted it in full in your post in GD. I'll put it here for continued clarity.

Also, there's a difference between Visible Moderation, which we practice here, and Transparent Moderation, which you keep referencing. Visible Moderation is a player's ability to post about removals and get an answer from Moderation letting them know why it was removed or directing them to Riot to discuss it if it's not something that can be discussed on the Boards.

So which is it since you clearly answered the question, is it the cropped face of Morello, or his lips?

ModMod Curator4 votes

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So which is it since you clearly answered the question, is it the cropped face of Morello, or his lips?

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or directing them to Riot to discuss it if it's not something that can't be discussed on the Boards.

Looks like I put "can" instead of "can't". This isn't a topic that can be discussed on the Boards, hence why your post was removed. If you want to discuss it, you have to submit a ticket to Riot.

Now that it's clear, here's the link to Player Support. Make sure to select “I have a question About League of Legends/Riot Games” and category “Games and Features > General Questions”.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Have a nice day.

Amachy2 votes

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Looks like I put "can" instead of "can't". This isn't a topic that can be discussed on the Boards, hence why your post was removed. If you want to discuss it, you have to submit a ticket to Riot.

Now that it's clear, here's the link to Player Support. Make sure to select “I have a question About League of Legends/Riot Games” and category “Games and Features > General Questions”.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Have a nice day.

Thanks for never giving out any answer, and deleting my post, and making this part of board useless, now can you step aside and let keyru herself come out?

Because all I asked was if posting a picture of someone's cropped face from a video Riot themselves uploaded would get me banned, How hard is it to answer a query like this instead of deleting it? which is what this is all about

{quoted} > > Confused over a punishment you received? > Not sure why your Boards post got edited or deleted? > Have questions about how the Player Behavior systems work? > > We’ve got you covered. This Board is all about answering these types of questions. Between the Arbiter volunteer program and Rioters, we will provide as much feedback and information as we can. > > Remember, the more information you provided, the more helpful we can be. Help us help you!

Jesus is Savior1 votes

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This isn't a topic that can be discussed on the Boards, hence why your post was removed. If you want to discuss it, you have to submit a ticket to Riot.

You can quote the specific section of the "Universal Board Rules" that he was actually breaking, instead of just saying "you broke the rules and it's a topic we can't discuss on the boards."

Here is an example:

"Hello. This is a topic that is not allowed to be discussed on the boards, so I cannot clarify why your post broke the rules on this public forum. If you would like further clarification, please contact Riot via support ticket. The violation fell under the following section of the Universal Board Rules:"

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/4LgZ2EwM-universal-rules

** This is not the place for:** Hate Speech

  • Moderators will look for any speech, gesture or conduct, writing, or display which can include attacks a person or group on the basis of:
  • Gender

"Please do not ask for clarification on how you broke this rule. We cannot discuss it. Please contact Riot via support ticket if you have any further questions."

^ (Note: I'm not sure if that's actually the rule he broke. I'm just guessing.)

ModMod Curator1 votes

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You can quote the specific section of the "Universal Board Rules" that he was actually breaking, instead of just saying "you broke the rules and it's a topic we can't discuss on the boards."

Here is an example:

"Hello. This is a topic that is not allowed to be discussed on the boards, so I cannot clarify why your post broke the rules on this public forum. If you would like further clarification, please contact Riot via support ticket. The violation fell under the following section of the Universal Board Rules:"

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/4LgZ2EwM-universal-rules

"Please do not ask for clarification on how you broke this rule. We cannot discuss it. Please contact Riot via support ticket if you have any further questions."

^ (Note: I'm not sure if that's actually the rule he broke. I'm just guessing.)

The messaging sent with a removal stated clearly that the topic was a discussion inappropriate for the Boards as they quoted. That IS the section of the Universal Rules that was broken which is why they need to submit a ticket to Player Support.

Their removal had nothing to do with anything else they referenced in their numerous spam posts on the topic or else those posts would have been removed as well.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

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The messaging sent with a removal stated clearly that the topic was a discussion inappropriate for the Boards as they quoted. That IS the section of the Universal Rules that was broken which is why they need to submit a ticket to Player Support.

Their removal had nothing to do with anything else they referenced in their numerous spam posts on the topic or else those posts would have been removed as well.

I see. If the messaging was clear like that it should have been obvious then. No idea why he's spamming the boards.

Amachy1 votes

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I see. If the messaging was clear like that it should have been obvious then. No idea why he's spamming the boards.

Right this is so clear, and making 1 thread about it is spam, it's not my fault mods deleted my inquiry without reading the content first.

Hey Amachy, While we do allow a number of topics that can be discussed about, there are some areas of discussion which are better left to other community platforms.

Amachy1 votes

{quoted}

Looks like I put "can" instead of "can't". This isn't a topic that can be discussed on the Boards, hence why your post was removed. If you want to discuss it, you have to submit a ticket to Riot.

Now that it's clear, here's the link to Player Support. Make sure to select “I have a question About League of Legends/Riot Games” and category “Games and Features > General Questions”.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

Have a nice day.

Yep, the ticket was useless, got absolutely 0 answers, what a noob trap. Next time just tell me to stfu and lock the account for another 7 days just because you feel like it.

Amachy1 votes

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We removed your initial post because you included an image of the post including the content that the post was removed for. I'm sorry if you don't understand why that's not allowed, but it isn't.

The image/content was nothing more than the picture of morello's face from the video uploaded by RIot posted. The image was posted the same way this was posted.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/FWXELt4n-my-account-king-odarth-was-recently-permanently-suspended-for-mature-content?show=flat#oembed-content-modal

Why is it so hard to answer as to whether or not posting the picture of morello from a youtube video uploaded by Riot will get someone banned because you obviously deleted an entire thread based off his face.

fuktihsgame1 votes

these boards are so holier than thou man . riot fan boys abusing power. i see nothing wrong with your question and yet the slander is real .. hope you get your answer man. which shoulda been an easy one at that

Cyst2 votes

I been laughing about this for ages...

Your downvotes come from two places just fyi 1/3 from players.

2/3 from curator. Cause when your tuna snatch doesn't smell like sjw :)

Amachy1 votes

Really dont get the favoritism played by the mods This is the orginal question posted here: "Will I be ban/warned for posting pictures of his cropped out face like old GD did?"

Here is someone else asking about the rules and actually reveiving an actual answer instead of they typical <Insert Ticket here & wait 2 weeks for a reply> reply.

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Hate Speech is specifically listed in the Universal Rules as unacceptable on the Boards. If you see this, simply use the Report button at the bottom right of a post and select Offensive.

This is not true. Only things that are against the Universal Rules are reportable. Anything else is a false report and is ignored.

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Frame it in a different way that doesn't involve religion and you can post it. If you can't do that, then you can't post it.

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The use of the term "God" immediately invokes religion into that conversation as an implied assertion and opens the door for others to dispute that assertion.

We just clarified yesterday in the post stickied at the top of GD that Religion discussions are still not allowed here in any way, shape, or form. If we miss it because we're busy, we'll still come back on sweeps and remove anything we find involving religion.

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In what you quoted I specifically stated if you want to frame the discussion another way, you're welcome to. Framing it in LoL lore as if you were Aurelian Sol would be perfectly fine.

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So this got posted when I wasn't working and then I wanted to review it with Riot before commenting because, in all honesty, what I'm going to say has already been said by others in this thread and either ignored or not given any weight. So I'm going to reiterate what others in here have already said:

This is spot on. Swimsuits, in and of themselves, are perfectly fine. Where the line gets drawn is mentioned next.

All of that. There are plenty of images of people in swimsuits that aren't, in and of themselves, sexually suggestive. As long as that's the case here, which it is in relation to the image in the last post before this was made, then there's nothing for us to remove.

Mods don't like seeing the same types of posts every day any more than you do, but it comes down to whether or not it breaks the rules as Riot has directed us to view them. While it is a "Daily Anime/Waifu Thread," the content in it isn't the same every day so it's not spam per our guidelines in any way currently.

In regards to the way these complain conversations inevitably end up discussing pedophilia: stop. Those discussions, even in relation to what is and isn't acceptable on the Boards, are not OK. We can talk about an image being acceptable or not without bringing up that topic. If you bring it up, we will be removing it with warnings and/or suspensions for either harassment, if you're calling someone that, or for inappropriate topics. I've added that topic to the update posted today and now stickied to the top of GD.

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Making multiple levels of rules adds complexity, not clarity. Clarity is "Don't do X or you'll be punished" and the only thing that changes with that is that if you continue to do it the punishment escalates. This is not an uncommon or ineffective way of dealing with behaviors. If you don't care about the punishment and do it again, then continuing to give someone the same punishment forever does nothing to prevent that behavior. Punishments necessarily escalate up a chain until you're permanently suspended for continued violations. Again, some violations start at a higher punishment than others due to their severity, as in this case. There are no warnings for saying such an extremely inappropriate statement.

It doesn't matter. You made the statement. It got removed and punished.

As stated, further discussion can be directed at Riot as you're getting into the decisions behind why rules are made and that is their purview. Moderators enforce and explain their rules, which I've done.

fuktihsgame1 votes

so its was over a swimsuit? lolol

fuktihsgame1 votes

jk i get you bud good luck with taht tho

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