I got chat restricted and lost free rewards for this?!??!?!

Katz McMeaty·Oct 5, 2018·2 votes·3,391 views

Because in ONE game I told 2 trolling players to "stfu and play" I get chat restricted and lose rewards??? Riot, this is absolutely idiotic. The actual trolls better have received a sever punishment.

Game 1 In-Game Katz McMeaty: eat da booty like biscuits Katz McMeaty: she had no ali Katz McMeaty: why we not go on her Katz McMeaty: so free holy Katz McMeaty: guss im afk farm obj Katz McMeaty: ya ur inting Katz McMeaty: stfu and stop pinging Katz McMeaty: guy shut the fuck up lol Katz McMeaty: wow Katz McMeaty: the riv and brand are trolling and its pissing me off Katz McMeaty: wasnt gonna catch a trynd guy Katz McMeaty: ur getting banned and im not ffing so plz shut up and play Katz McMeaty: its ranked, u wanna play like an idiot go play norms or garbage ass fortnite Katz McMeaty: wehave no map control so wtf uw ant me to do? Katz McMeaty: hey brand how bout u stund Katz McMeaty: and ahri plz charm Katz McMeaty: just watching as trynd dives a nunu lol Katz McMeaty: cuz its trashass gold Katz McMeaty: u all left me Katz McMeaty: i was 1v3ing Katz McMeaty: so iwas too low to help u Katz McMeaty: shoulda fought when they went on me Katz McMeaty: needa stall Katz McMeaty: report this riv and brand Katz McMeaty: both just grieved all game from five minutes Katz McMeaty: been trying to ff, so aids Katz McMeaty: cant wait for that instant feedback report Katz McMeaty: shits gonna be glorious Katz McMeaty: they checked out at 5 mins Katz McMeaty: duration of trynd ult needs nerf Katz McMeaty: outlasts my r Katz McMeaty: luc baron Katz McMeaty: cmome Katz McMeaty: gg Katz McMeaty: fucking aids

29 Comments

ForFoxSakesOct 5, 201815 votes

you literally flamed every single person on your team and toxic

Jo0oOct 5, 20189 votes

After the first few lines, almost nothing you said wasn't toxic.

420 gramsOct 5, 20184 votes

"I'm not ffing" "been trying to ff, so aids"

So where is the truth? 🤔🤔🤔

zPOOPzOct 5, 20182 votes

"I'm not ffing"

he doesn't want to ff

"been trying to ff, so aids"

I assume he's trying to explain to (most likely) /all chat that someone been trying to ff

ModPrandineOct 5, 20184 votes

I get that you're frustrated by having trolls in your game, but nothing good comes out of constantly complaining about them and/or flaming them all game long. Not only does that distract from the game but it also gives them the reaction they wanted out of you. Also, calling for reports is pointless since only one is needed to flag a game for review.

Overall the punishment is deserved.

Kats PajamasOct 5, 20182 votes

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I get that you're frustrated by having trolls in your game, but nothing good comes out of constantly complaining about them and/or flaming them all game long. Not only does that distract from the game but it also gives them the reaction they wanted out of you. Also, calling for reports is pointless since only one is needed to flag a game for review.

Overall the punishment is deserved.

With all due respect, being honorable is important, the honor system itself is distracting, a disgraceful mess and adds more toxicity than it amends.

I agree this OP is the flavor of the week when it comes to toxicity, but his grievance about rewards being unjustly lost is felt by me quite a bit. I can't see him being very positive in game considering that. It's cyclically broken.

I'll probably hit honor 2 before the deadline or whatever, and Riot will probably make considerations or amendments at the end of the season, or whatever, but does it instill confidence in me at all that it works?

No.

This is coupled with the fact I have smurfs that easily hit honor 5, and I know countless non-toxic people, that were never reported or restricted in previous seasons, being stripped THIS season. Nothing about honor itself indicates anything about player behavior, it's just another type of account standing Riot can cripple so that someone must make a new account, similar to how my Smurf is also Platinum, but SOMEHOW this account can't beat gold 5. Meanwhile, my smurfs placement MMR is against Hotshot GG. Broken matchmaking, broken honor. No different. The player that stripped my honor was in Silver, he probably raged over something completely reasonable, I still don't know to this day because he inted, while saying nothing.

ModPrandineOct 5, 20185 votes

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With all due respect, being honorable is important, the honor system itself is distracting, a disgraceful mess and adds more toxicity than it amends.

I agree this OP is the flavor of the week when it comes to toxicity, but his grievance about rewards being unjustly lost is felt by me quite a bit. I can't see him being very positive in game considering that. It's cyclically broken.

I'll probably hit honor 2 before the deadline or whatever, and Riot will probably make considerations or amendments at the end of the season, or whatever, but does it instill confidence in me at all that it works?

No.

I fail to see what this has to do with the OPs behavior or how him behaving poorly and losing honors means that the honor system is broken.

Kats PajamasOct 5, 20182 votes

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I fail to see what this has to do with the OPs behavior or how him behaving poorly and losing honors means that the honor system is broken.

Because the implication of honor makes people act more toxic. This conceptually was bad enough with just reports, now it's actually ridiculous. I pander to every team I have and quickly tell them I will honor the first-best good play I see, because the direction it immediately goes otherwise is "who do we report". We aren't just punishing bad behavior, we're seeking it, and that part is TOXIC to deal with. No one would mute at game start if there weren't reports, and people are generally pretty shitty when it comes to honor, as a community people honor the highest kda toxic adc(how predictable honor would work like this /s), not the good attitudes.

By contrast, all punishment is attitude-only justifications, so it's only frustrating for everyone.

ModPrandineOct 6, 20183 votes

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Because the implication of honor makes people act more toxic. This conceptually was bad enough with just reports, now it's actually ridiculous. I pander to every team I have and quickly tell them I will honor the first-best good play I see, because the direction it immediately goes otherwise is "who do we report". We aren't just punishing bad behavior, we're seeking it, and that part is TOXIC to deal with. No one would mute at game start if there weren't reports, and people are generally pretty shitty when it comes to honor, as a community people honor the highest kda toxic adc(how predictable honor would work like this /s), not the good attitudes.

By contrast, all punishment is attitude-only justifications, so it's only frustrating for everyone.

If that's the case then I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Honor should be something that comes naturally, not something you beg for or hand out willy-nilly. I myself have only recently reached Honor 4 this season but I have never asked for or expected to receive honors from anyone, nor have I seen anyone ask for honors or claim that they will honor the first good play they see. Also when it comes to handing out honors I generally only give it to people who I feel were the most helpful that game and/or had sportsmanlike/friendly behavior, and there have been times where I just don't hand out honors period.

Also, even with the previous honor system people did what you claim they do now (give out honors to the highest kda), so not only is it nothing new but it has nothing to do with the honor system and more to do with the people actually using it, at least in my experience anyways.

Overall your complaint is more geared towards the honor system itself rather than the OPs behavior, which in that case is something you should discuss in its own thread rather than in this one.

Kats PajamasOct 6, 20181 votes

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If that's the case then I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Honor should be something that comes naturally, not something you beg for or hand out willy-nilly. I myself have only recently reached Honor 4 this season but I have never asked for or expected to receive honors from anyone, nor have I seen anyone ask for honors or claim that they will honor the first good play they see. Also when it comes to handing out honors I generally only give it to people who I feel were the most helpful that game and/or had sportsmanlike/friendly behavior, and there have been times where I just don't hand out honors period.

Also, even with the previous honor system people did what you claim they do now (give out honors to the highest kda), so not only is it nothing new but it has nothing to do with the honor system and more to do with the people actually using it. at least in my experience anyways.

Overall your complaint is more geared towards the honor system itself rather than the OPs behavior, which in that case is something you should discuss in its own thread rather than in this one.

I didn't say I begged, and I didn't say I gave it away. I've reached honor 5 twice on the same account, and on 4 other accounts. It's not surprising to me at all, because I am a Katarina OTP and have the second highest pentakill rate, so naturally people honor my KDA. I'd like to mention, this is not an excuse for being toxic, and I am not toxic on top of this, but the speed I accumulate honor is proof itself of first hand evidence what I am talking about is true.

I'm maybe fine with this? My comment is it's broken.

Punishment is broken in a reverse way.

You're right it's not completely related to this situation, but I believe in second chances and because his rewards are based on the system, that's why I stepped in here. He realizes he has lost substantial chance at rewards despite his attitude before, or going forward, I have an account in a similar standing that is just thrown there. Not only do I believe in second chances, and that one game IS too stringent to deny rewards, but I also believe that taking that kind of punishment in stride is admirable at the least. The fact he hasn't quit league over it seems more honorable.

To segregate people like this and identify them as toxic with a broken icon and everything, just seems wrong. It's a toxic way to treat the player base, the idea is to respect everyone right?

His restriction seems fair. Losing rewards doesn't. As every season has felt, but this one is the freaking worst in that respect.

Honor is treated like an exclusivity. It's a crappy way to do it. 1 honor system down from 5 is also just more steps back for less steps forward.

I'll stop complaining to the advisory now. Good luck OP.

Katz McMeatyOct 6, 20181 votes

I just think it's a little ridiculous that all my honor was stripped for me getting pissed in one single game. Sure, chat restrict me, whatever, but take all my honor? A little excessive. Was one single game ffs, and I've seen so many people/streamers be waaaay more toxic. Whatevs

MadNoffOct 5, 20182 votes

Angry little man.

KareshiOct 5, 20182 votes

LOL no boarder and end season rewards for you>

Doesnt matter if you get trolls, you report them and dont use chat yourself

you got caught in the fire

Katz McMeatyOct 5, 20181 votes

But i do get boarder and Victorious skin. Lol Wtf?

Timethief49Oct 6, 20182 votes

At what Honor rank are you? You need Honor 2 for ranked rewards.

KareshiOct 6, 20181 votes

NOPE once you get a ban after august thats it, not eligible for rewards

and even if honor 2 is the cutoff, you have just been reset to honor 0 so you wont have enough time to get back into 2 by the time the season ends

so nope no rewards

XidphelOct 5, 20181 votes

Yes.

Katz McMeatyOct 5, 20181 votes

was only talking to Brand and Riv. Riv and brand were the only ones trying to ff since 15 mins. Ahri and Lucian (my teammates) were also on my side. I can upload the vod if u guys really want to see. Riv and Brand gave up like 8 mins into the game and tried to spam ff, and that should be much more punishable than saying the "f word" once or twice.

IcyPepperOct 5, 20181 votes

Yes.

Kats PajamasOct 5, 20181 votes

I lost honor 4 months ago for 1 game, I get pops that say things like "You've been honored 196% more than other players!" super often, and yet I'm still honor 1.

I don't even use chat in 90% of games.

Meanwhile, my friend in bronze who also lost honor 2 weeks ago for calling someone a %%%, is now honor 2, and I'm sitting here through half the season like wtf, I didn't really even deserve my strip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDUGW2tLeb8

This is the vod of the game where I was chat restricted. My first message to darius was at 12 minutes, asking why he is afk. He said nothing, then opened the rest of the game.

I said 'fucking afk' a couple times in all chat at the end of the game, and have been honor 0 ever since.

I was previously honor 5 before that, that seems to be no matter if you are reported at any rank of honor, you are now 'dishonorable' forever is how it feels.

I also am literally a coach and maintaining positive attitude is part of my lesson. Did you see me quit the game Darius was in?

The honor system is a joke.

Katz McMeatyOct 5, 20181 votes

Dude, that's what i'm saying! The punishment system is so fucked. This was also only one game. ONE. GAME. Thank god the season's almost over because getting back honor levels is like climbing Everest. Guess I'll just mute everyone in the game???

Katz McMeatyOct 5, 20181 votes

"Fuck" is a trigger word for Riot i guess

XidphelOct 5, 20182 votes

It fucking ain't. You can fucking say fuck every few fucking posts.

Pandemic PunchOct 6, 20181 votes

Saying "Report" too many times does trigger the automated system. I am not sure if twice is enough though. Maybe it counts as a strike each time you say it which would make more sense. "im afk", "Idiot", "stfu", "report" x2, is probably more than enough for the automated system to pick it up...

Not saying that I agree with it. Just be glad that it wasn't an outright ban. I have experienced a ban in the past where I held no hostility. Meanwhile, I got death threats, people who threatened to rape my mother, people telling me to kms irl, and more. Several times in one week. None of them got banned. Their accounts remained active.

Katz McMeatyOct 6, 20181 votes

And this was not even close to the same level. Just got fed up with a troll, but whatevs I guess

zPOOPzOct 6, 20181 votes

I don't even use chat in 90% of games.

Maybe this is your problem. While you do gain honor being neutral (not chatting at all), it is known you gain honor faster by being positive (chat positively), plus people generally honor you more if you chat positively from my experience. I main support. I almost never have flashy kda to show that I am carrying, yet I get honor flairs pretty much 7-8 out of 10 games (mostly I guess by my bot lane partner. I also honor him almost 90% of the time)

EleshakaiOct 6, 20181 votes

I'm pretty sure you only get punished for a single game if you use one of the 'zero tolerance' words... so there were definitely more games than this, this just may be the only one you got a chat log for.

It's my personal favourite though, to see people commenting on how they're looking forward to getting an instant feedback report WHILE BEING TOXIC get punished. Poetic justice, that.

Katz McMeatyOct 16, 20181 votes

Back to honor lvl 1 boyz. Let's go!!!