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I called my mid laner "Autistic" and he/she left the game because of it.

BradNo··6 votes·4,651 views

Am I in the wrong for using hate speech to insult my teammate?: Yes

Should I have gotten punished for my actions?: Yes

Did my mid laner ping MIA when talon left lane?: No

Did my mid laner leave?: Yes

Do I feel bad for my actions?: Kinda

I guess we are both in the wrong.

67 Comments

Jo0o5 votes

Yes, you're both in the wrong.

This is also a prime example of why the mute button isn't an excuse for toxicity: your mid laner should have handled it better when you started flaming them, but meanwhile, your other three teammates now suffer a loss because you decided to flame, and they have absolutely no recourse.

BradNo1 votes

we didn't lose because she left.

We lost because my adc didn't come to Baron.

Edit: Are you feeling better?

Jo0o9 votes

I can't imagine either situation helped your team's chances of winning.

Turns out I didn't have the flu, but rather a huge allergic reaction to mold that had grown in my office's walls due to a pipe burst, which kept me out of commission for weeks before it was removed. I am indeed better now, thank you. But now that you've reminded me of who you are and I've gone back and checked the previous thread, I'm concerned that you are indeed going to get yourself banned. Just don't flame people, it's not worth it. You may have even cost yourself the game in this situation due to it.

BradNo1 votes

You don't have to worry about me. I have enjoyed my time playing league. I will not get banned anytime soon.

Jo0o7 votes

I mean, calling folks autistic will probably get you there, if you don't pivot. It's a hateful thing to say, and your story is a clear indication of how it can be detrimental to your team's cohesion.

Voldymort2 votes

Famous last words

Tahngarthor2 votes

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You don't have to worry about me. I have enjoyed my time playing league. I will not get banned anytime soon.

I wouldn't be so sure.

GatekeeperTDS5 votes

Was flaming your mid laner ever going to get you closer to destroying the enemy nexus?

If the answer is "No," (hit: it's No) then keep your fingers off the keys.

BradNo1 votes

I'm not upset that we lost. I actually don't care.

Schoenberg1 votes

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I'm not upset that we lost. I actually don't care.

And yet you made a thread. You're upset over something.

BradNo1 votes

Nah, I just wanted to tell the story

Schoenberg2 votes

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Nah, I just wanted to tell the story

I think it's ok to vent in that way. Most everyone I know does it, myself included. Flaming on the other hand? If you value your account, no.

BradNo1 votes

I'm not venting BRO. I just wanted to tell the story.

Schoenberg1 votes

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I'm not venting BRO. I just wanted to tell the story.

Tell a story just for telling the sake of a story, because ya know, stories because stories and for stories. People tell stories to make their friends laugh, tell stories to entertain their family around a campfire, tell stories to cause an uproar, or tell stories to vent, like in your case. The only people who tell stories for no reason are in psychiatric hospitals.

Everyone has their reason, and I know what I'm seeing here.

BradNo1 votes

BRO. I'M NOT VENTING.

Dude, there is a reason why I call people Autistic.

Schoenberg1 votes

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BRO. I'M NOT VENTING.

Dude, there is a reason why I call people Autistic.

What, you’re a troll that’s managed convince itself that it ain't venting? If so, I’ve known this for a while now. Sorry!

Jkjkxd

Why do you call people autistic?

Tahngarthor2 votes

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I'm not upset that we lost. I actually don't care.

If you didn't care you wouldn't be here posting about it.

Laura ß4 votes

both of you should be reported and banned, you both made 3 other players lose

BradNo1 votes

I didn't make anyone lose. The could have been won if we played it out right.

Dr Birdie1 votes

How do you know that, if they had stayed, you would have won. Odds are they would have been extremely tilted, from you flaming them, and would have played worse, made more mistakes, and lost. Not to mention you don't know how many of your other team mates you may have tilted.

Psyrix4 votes

So question... what do you think autistic people are and why do you think it’s an insult?

MankeyMadness3 votes

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So question... what do you think autistic people are and why do you think it’s an insult?

It's not that being autistic is insulting. It's being spoken to that way using the word as an insult. Its literally the same thing as a nine letter word the forums wont let you type; insinuating your teammate has a mental disability because youre upset at their actions or lack thereof.

And believe it or not, autists and families of autistic people do not appreciate using the name like that, so yes its defined hate speech.

Psyrix1 votes

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It's not that being autistic is insulting. It's being spoken to that way using the word as an insult. Its literally the same thing as a nine letter word the forums wont let you type; insinuating your teammate has a mental disability because youre upset at their actions or lack thereof.

And believe it or not, autists and families of autistic people do not appreciate using the name like that, so yes its defined hate speech.

Lol, im not asking for me really... asking the OP why they'd even use that as an insult, educate them on what autism actually is and hopefully make them realize it really isn't a good insult nor should be used as an insult.

Tahngarthor4 votes

Never. Ever. Make. Light. Of. Disabilities. Period. .

Netorare3 votes

People should stop being a fucking braindead wuss on the internet and get offended by everything.

Dr Birdie1 votes

No one needs morality from someone with a name like yours, considering you are more than likely breaking laws daily.

Voldymort1 votes

The Irony lol

mack91123 votes

Individual probably has autism and felt personally attacked.

You should be ashamed

tyrannsaurusrekt1 votes

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Individual probably has autism and felt personally attacked.

You should be ashamed

No he shouldnt, even if the player did, if you can't handle the heat, stay away from the oven

mack91121 votes

That’s not acceptable a variety of mental states exist and we all have to coexist both in real life and online. You have to be aware that you are talking to ( and playing ) with real people with real problems. If you want the game to continue last you have to treat everyone in game with a degree of respect and using that kind of terminology shows no respect.

Tahngarthor2 votes

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No he shouldnt, even if the player did, if you can't handle the heat, stay away from the oven

I don't find it acceptable to do something that is certainly going to upset people and then accuse them of not being able to handle the heat. The heat shouldn't have been on in the first place. While it's wrong to leave the game, it's far more wrong to intentionally trigger someone into leaving (and you're a double jerk if you report them when you are the direct cause of it)

Tahngarthor2 votes

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Individual probably has autism and felt personally attacked.

You should be ashamed

Really not sure why this is being downvoted. Because this is exactly what happened. And the OP should be ashamed.

// On the autism spectrum ///Would not leave games because of hate speech, but will most definitely mute and report you and hope for your permaban.

Hotarµ1 votes

People probably assume he's being sarcastic or they're just downvoting him because everyone thinks they're entitled to be a jerk on the internet.

Everyone wants to be rude whenever the opportunity presents itself and if you disagree you must be some variation of: sensitive/SJW/snowflake/crybaby/manchild/liberal/etc.

The bad Yasuo3 votes

Wow actions have consequences?

Quáx2 votes

You play with fire you're gonna get burned. Simple as that.

BradNo1 votes

Great Analogy, Mr.Smartypants

Quáx1 votes

Something maybe you should live by...Also, work on your insults, this isn't 3rd-grade lmfao.

Tahngarthor2 votes

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Great Analogy, Mr.Smartypants

That's not an analogy. lol.

An analogy is " is a lot like . "

What we have here is a metaphor.

Schoenberg2 votes

It'd be nice if everyone could just toughen up, you included.

Kei1432 votes

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Did my mid laner ping MIA when talon left lane?: No

Map awareness is a great skill to have.

Vlada Cut2 votes

Tfw I usually insult someone who wants my help and I soam ping them not to do something but they do it anways then blame me for it. That pisses me off and makes me want to call them idiots. Do that and give darius 1st blood despite saying don't go in 10 times? Well I'm not gonna bother talking I'll jist wish you good luck in a 4v5. I deal with such people in a brutal way, thisnis what happens when you don't listen to reason first and then pay the consequences of your simple minded unreasonable actions. ;) Oh and don't tell me "mute and report them", what's the point of muting if it's their behaviour in-game is problematic and not what they syy in chat, and it's not like I can report someone for their stubborn stupidity, lol.

EyesOfTheFox2 votes

Best bet is to just become a streamer, then you can say whatever you want out loud and not be punished and there's also a visual record of the person you are calling out so they are also being publicly shamed because the world can see their actions now.

The Skáld1 votes

And both must be punished.

BradNo1 votes

must?

Tahngarthor3 votes

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And both must be punished.

If I was a witness to what happened, here, I would have reported the aggressor and not the leaver. Besides, leaver punishments are more or less automatic anyway.

The Skáld1 votes

If some is being toxic and insults, you must mute and continue. You don't have a right to leave other 3 players in difficult situation just because someone can't control himself. Yes, aggressor must be punished, but so must leaver.

Tahngarthor1 votes

Leaverbuster automatically handles people who leave habitually. If this person is offended enough to leave at any provocation, then the system will automatically handle that. I will not report someone who was bullied into quitting.

tyrannsaurusrekt1 votes

No, because calling someone autistic isn't hate speech, else many psychiatric wards beat you too it. Similarly, it's absolutely deserved if you believe the situation could've been Handle by Forrest Gump. The babbys in this game can't handle that maybe the fact maybe they aren't as special as their mommies told them they are

Tahngarthor3 votes

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No, because calling someone autistic isn't hate speech, else many psychiatric wards beat you too it. Similarly, it's absolutely deserved if you believe the situation could've been Handle by Forrest Gump. The babbys in this game can't handle that maybe the fact maybe they aren't as special as their mommies told them they are

It most certainly is hate speech. Any time I see this in game, it's an implication that the named person is stupid or clueless, and that's not even in any way what it means to be autistic. At the very minimum it perpetuates incorrect stereotypes about of group of people that are actually more often than not above average in intelligence.

Hotarµ1 votes

As someone who's got mild Autism, it's definitely hate speech.

Bringing it up in casual conversation isn't negative on it's own but it's too bad the League community (and many others, for that matter) use it in a derogatory manner.

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