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DeathlyPunchline··9 votes·2,333 views

This is a rant. I'm sorry for whoever doesn't want to read this.

So I just got done with this match, and it was just terrible from the start. Even though we won. During champ select, I called support. I admit, I play it a lot, but I called it and got it. Instead, the person that called ADC said that someone else was Support. Looking up in the chat, I thought maybe I came late and didn't see the call. But the person came into the chat at the same time as me, and they didn't call anything. After that, the person just locks in Blitzcrank. And then calls ADC. The person that called ADC locks in Yasuo.

Now I was a little upset that I just got bullied out of my role, but being that I saw that the bot lane was now both melee, and most of the games in the recent past I have played have been laned against a Caitlin, I got even more upset. But I didn't say anything. I just locked in Lulu and kept my mouth shut. And already, the Blitz had something to say about how I was apparently playing someone that wasn't tanky enough and that we weren't going to be able to team fight. Whatever.

So when we went into loading, I saw that Yasuo and Blitz were going to be against Syndra and Draven. With a Syndra support, I thought maybe they weren't going to have to worry about much. But still, it was whatever. I got in the match, and I admit I opened my big mouth. I said "I can't believe that you guys bullied me out of my lane so that you can go double melee in bot lane just so you can get Yasuo a knock up.

The Blitz responded by asking me what rank I was. I said don't fucking worry about it. Worry about not messing up your lane. And then I said that Rank doesn't matter in this game. I admit, I am bronze. And the sad thing about Bronze is that the hardest part about getting out is getting a team of good bronze players that can lead you to win. If you don't win, whether you yourself were doing good or not, you don't get LP to get out of your rank. So really, if you are in bronze, for some people, it doesn't matter.

I should also say that I found out I was laning into a Riven. As Lulu.

So Blitz dies once at one point. And then I get a kill on Riven. Blitz says sorry for fucking up Lulu, but I just ignore him. I fight riven out of lane again, and again, but I'm not doing good in farm. Either way, I'm ahead of riven in kills so if I just hold tower I should be fine.

And then Riven comes into lane. At that point, Literally the EXACT POINT that Riven hits the lane, I hit 2000 ping and can't move. I literally just stand there as she kills me. Blitz was watching for that ONE TIME that I mess up so that he can go off on his BRONZE shit talk. But at this point the nidalee that was laning against our zed has died some 10 times. So our team is still good.

And then the Zed starts talking some rude shit to the Nidalee. And Blitz joins in. I mean horrible stuff. Mocking rank, talking about how bad the person was. Just being a complete asshole. So I say in chat "I don't understand why people are so rude in this game now. Like as a nidalee you die to Riven ONCE in lane cause of bad lag and you are apparently a complete NOOB." Syndra agrees with me on this one. Blitz just goes on talkign shit. I go mid lane and there are three kills that happen and we take two towers. So Yasuo takes the time to point out that my outer turret just dropped in lane. Saying that for that reason I'm a shit player. I mention that Riven has only gotten one kill on me so you have noting to say. Because honestly, for someone that has played top lane for a Whooping 3 or 4 pvp matches and doesn't normally solo lane, holding my own against one of the stronger top lanes and kinda bullying it around the lane is an accomplishment. He says Kills aren't as important as objectives. Which honestly, that is true for the most part. But once again. 1 death to Riven. Thats pretty important. And we had both towers down in mid and bot. We had this game in the bag. I think Nid had died 15 times by now?

So I said And you are gold. Once again proof that rank doesn't matter in this game.

Apparently that was worse than all the things that Yasuo, Blitzcrank, and Zed had said to the rest of the team. Because at the end of the match I got a notice saying that I had been reported for unsportsmanlike conduct. Are you fucking shitting me? These guys are going in all cat talking completely horridly to the other team, being completely toxic to their own team, and I get reported for defending myself?

Honestly riot. What is this bullshit?

42 Comments

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Retaliation is not an acceptable reason to be toxic. They might be in the wrong for ignoring pick/call order or harassing you, but don't stoop down to their level. Mute them and report them; you can't get punished if you did nothing wrong, but getting into an argument can easily make you wrong.

EatnScrubs2 votes

It's not toxic if it's retaliation. That's called sweet old fashioned justice bb, dishing it out ourselves because riot employees don't bother investigating what happened, they punish both people. Imagine if that's how our laws worked :) Would you want it to be that way then? Someone hits you, so you defend yourself. OH I GUESS WE'LL JUST GIVE THEM EQUAL PUNISHMENT. What a joke. Additionally, if someone ignores pick/call order and is harassing you, you're saying they should just roll over and let them get what they want? Because they broke the rules? I think not. Make that game living hell for that player, they don't deserve anything less. And if you're worried about affecting the others, guess what, it's not you that made it that way it's the antagonizer who started it. He's just getting what he deserves and you all suffer because of it.

IcyPepper3 votes

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.

Someone hits you, so you defend yourself.

That's... not a good comparison. A better comparison would be if someone screamed at you in a restaurant or something. If you scream back, you both would be excused from the restaurant. If you decide to be the bigger person, you'd be left alone.

The main problem with retaliation being punishable, and why that comparison is flawed, is that it goes beyond just the two parties involved. You're in a game with nine other people, if you stoke the flames you're making the game worse for everyone and impacting their game negatively, even if you believe you're justified.

If someone punches you once in a public area, they are to get kicked out or escorted out of the area and you are to be left alone. If you punch back, it's now a fight between two parties and you're disturbing the peace. There's a difference between self-defense (when you are actually in danger, or the person doesn't stop at one punch), and trying to deliver "justice." The equivalent of self-defense against a verbally toxic person in a LoL game is to mute them, report them, and not "punch" back. Remove their element of toxicity, not make the situation worse for everyone.

Heizman3 votes

Reports are reviewed. Just because you got reported doesn't mean it does anything to you. I'm confused at how this is riots fault. Just report the idiots and move on

afmghost4 votes

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Reports are reviewed. Just because you got reported doesn't mean it does anything to you. I'm confused at how this is riots fault. Just report the idiots and move on

It's Riot's fault because they tossed out the tribunal in favor of an automated system that doesn't understand context. Reports are reviewed, but not by actual humans.

Heizman1 votes

How do you know it's not reviewed by humans

afmghost1 votes

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How do you know it's not reviewed by humans

What makes you think it is? I see no evidence to suggest that it is.

Heizman1 votes

I don't. But you made a claim that you can't support and I was just pointing that out

afmghost1 votes

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I don't. But you made a claim that you can't support and I was just pointing that out

It seems odd that the tribunal has been in recess for about two consecutive years.

ModUlanopo5 votes

There are two reasons for the Tribunal being gone for so long:

  • It's getting a massive upgrade, including supposedly positive and neutral cases among the negative ones.
  • It's being released in all regions at the same time (several regions did not have it before).
BetaDude401 votes

Can we expect an ETA, or are you one who doesn't have such information?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Lyte is a great source of information for these. Ulanopo isn't a Rioter and will be getting his information from a public official source just like we would. Check Lyte's ask.fm page. Right now there's no official release date, just a general "early 2016".

http://ask.fm/RiotLyte/answer/134527663810

BetaDude401 votes

Thanks, that was pretty helpful

ModUlanopo1 votes

My sources have been saying "Q1 2016... probably" for a while now.

afmghost1 votes

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There are two reasons for the Tribunal being gone for so long:

  • It's getting a massive upgrade, including supposedly positive and neutral cases among the negative ones.
  • It's being released in all regions at the same time (several regions did not have it before).

Well they're clearly not a priority to them despite its dire need. I mean how many game changes (champions, buffs, nerfs, masteries, and temporary game modes) happened in that time? I'm not convinced that we should mark our calendars.

kaleb bartlett2 votes

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Well they're clearly not a priority to them despite its dire need. I mean how many game changes (champions, buffs, nerfs, masteries, and temporary game modes) happened in that time? I'm not convinced that we should mark our calendars.

You do understand that those are two different teams right... the gameplay team doesn't really have anything to do with who is working on tribunal. Riot is a big company, it's not like there are only 20 people working there.

Awkward Couch1 votes

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE REVIEWING MY TRIBUNAL CASE? Like any trial that employs a jury system, evaluation in the Tribunal will be made by your peers. We assure you that you will not end up in the Tribunal due to false reports.

A group of dedicated Rioters continually audit the Tribunal system and pay close attention to any serious penalties doled out by the Tribunal. Except for the most extreme of cases, first offenses will almost always be warnings. In the event that you receive such a warning, just consider it a friendly reminder to observe the Summoner's Code.

from https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/203066050-Tribunal-FAQ

Long story short, low level bans, the chat restrictions, are reviewed by the automated system. More severe punishments are reviewed by Riot before the punishment is put in place. All permabans are reviewed by Riot before being released.

kaleb bartlett3 votes

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It's Riot's fault because they tossed out the tribunal in favor of an automated system that doesn't understand context. Reports are reviewed, but not by actual humans.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. There is NEVER a context where retaliation is acceptable, ever.

Subject 51 votes

[{quoted}](name=kaleb bartlett,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TMPHAwvA,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2015-12-10T23:29:32.753+0000)

You really have no idea what you're talking about. There is NEVER a context where retaliation is acceptable, ever.

Smack is what you are on, yeah?

Niyumi3 votes

Welcome to modern society, where everyone has paper-thin skin, and saying one wrong word instantly makes you a bigot of some sort, and obviously you deserve to be punished.

I really miss the days when bullies got their asses handed to them, and then they stopped being bullies. But hey, again, welcome to modern society. Ain't it nice? ^^

kaleb bartlett2 votes

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Welcome to modern society, where everyone has paper-thin skin, and saying one wrong word instantly makes you a bigot of some sort, and obviously you deserve to be punished.

I really miss the days when bullies got their asses handed to them, and then they stopped being bullies. But hey, again, welcome to modern society. Ain't it nice? ^^

There are limits to what can be done online. The closest we can get to 'handing their ass to them' is them getting suspended or banned for being said bully.

Niyumi1 votes

[{quoted}](name=kaleb bartlett,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TMPHAwvA,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2015-12-10T23:56:21.881+0000)

There are limits to what can be done online. The closest we can get to 'handing their ass to them' is them getting suspended or banned for being said bully.

The internet is where there are no repercussions for your actions, and you can get away with virtually anything with little to no consequence. It really shows you just how horrible people are ("When is man most himself but when behind a mask?" -- Internet being the mask), but hey, that's how modern society teaches people to behave.

Then we have a game like League, where they (Riot) try to shut down all the crap that goes on, but do absolutely nothing while making the game horrible for everyone -- to the point that a lot of people are afraid of even talking in chat, and just mute everyone as the game starts.

Really would be nice if you could throw a punch through someone's screen, and literally knock the hell out of them. But, since there isn't a fist flying at your face when you're an asshole online, people will just go on and act however horribly they want to, showing off their true colors.

Sure do love humanity -- don't you?

On a side note, I have never even heard the term "toxic" before coming to League. Now, I see it pinned to everything and everyone, to the point that I think the word itself is just meaningless.

afmghost2 votes

I think you are overreacting. In fact, I think you are the main problem. If you get harassed or trolled, you are supposed to let them walk on you like a doormat. Do not reply, do not defend yourself, and always do what they say. After all, only certain players have the privilege of a fun and enjoyable experience. No bronze elo player should go unharassed, and no bronze elo has the right to speak at all.

(This is satire. I'm mocking the pathetic excuse of a system that Riot set up. Bronze elo is troll's paradise. I feel your pain)

Kekker2 votes

Well ye, that's bronze, people will always be toxic, in one game more than another. It's commonly know bronze is the hotbed of hate and insults. Try to climb out of it. Not trying to brag, but at Gold/Plat you barely see any insults nor hate. Or maybe I'm just lucky, I don't know. If you wanna get out of it, follow these simple instructions:

  • Don't talk, only when absolutely necessary, like "I'm going to split top".
  • Accept people will talk trash to you, IGNORE IT, if you can't stand seeing what they say, just mute them, the chances of them saying anything related to the game is very small.
  • Try to take every mistake as your fault, even when you think it's not, sounds weird, but most of the time you could have prevented it.
  • Most important, don't let your emotions take the better of you!
afmghost3 votes

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  • Most important, don't let your emotions take the better of you!

Doing so is not anybody's fault. Being fed up sometimes is just a part of being human

Kekker2 votes

I know, but if you wanna win, you have to control your emotions. After time it gets easier. When I get angry, I just look away, take my hands of the keyboard and spread them. I realise then it's still only a game, and those hatefull people aren't probably even serious. They are the ones without control of their emotions. The cavemen who have to express themselves at every given moment. Just let go, practice it, don't be butthurt too fast, be the better and wiser person.

Samus722 votes

Tantrum has already said that each infraction is reviewed. I'm going to take Riot at their word on that. To lie would be bad P.R. We all know that outsiders would call the company on it.

The OP needs to mute chat.

Subject 52 votes

I take pride in being toxic as a jungler and support main in team builder. If somebody wants to act like an ass hole of course I'll make a smart comment and then mute them. What is Riot going to do? Put me through an automated system that can't stop people from acting like middle school bullies?

If Riot doesn't want to create a system to keep people in line, I will not stay in line myself. At least give me a voice chat so people can hear my satire and sarcastic voice.

Itadaki Seieki2 votes

Retaliation is making the problem worse. Sure they started but YOU continued it.

The system WILL punish you for defending yourself, because you're lending to the problem and your teammates have to deal with it.

How would you like it if someone was mid, and got mad at top for taking their role and feeding? Demoralized, yeah? Imagine that ONE person on your team who had to sit there and listen to you, and your other three TEAMMATES bitch and whine at each other?

JARmates1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Phijkchu Baku,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TMPHAwvA,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-12-10T23:01:52.889+0000)

Retaliation is making the problem worse. Sure they started but YOU continued it.

The system WILL punish you for defending yourself, because you're lending to the problem and your teammates have to deal with it.

How would you like it if someone was mid, and got mad at top for taking their role and feeding? Demoralized, yeah? Imagine that ONE person on your team who had to sit there and listen to you, and your other three TEAMMATES bitch and whine at each other?

I kind of enjoy it actually. I love drama, its entertaining. Of course I just sit and listen, I don't say a single word.

COWmanLord2 votes

I am pretty sure you get a notice almost every time you get reported. Either way 1 faulty report wont get you punished if you don't normally do things to get yourself reported.

lolptwo2 votes

So I took time to read this and a couple things here:

1: You don't need to apologize to anyone for writing something, if they don't want to read it or accidentally read it, that's their problem but good gesture.

2: Rank does matter, and it's an extremely good indicator and some could even argue, the only indicator of how good you are in this game. Put me on any Bronze account ever, any one, Bronze 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and I will be out of Bronze in 1-2 days. That's a fact. The fact that this SINGULAR gold player was playing in Bronze MMR could be many reasons, either his attitude makes his lose a lot of games(in low elo this happens A LOT) or his play has fallen off

3: Avoid talking in low elo: This will save you a lot of grief, I honestly have zero idea what anyone even bothers judging eachother in low elo, I am 100% guarenteed you aren't doing everything correctly, focus on yourself, and not your teammates, do the correct play and ATTEMPT to work as a team. You brought it upon yourself by initiating the conversation and you should know better, especially with a duo(who are more proned to both be toxic)

4: In low elo, stop focusing on the little things, look at the big picture. Little things like oh I'm 400 gold ahead I think I can outplay someone is mostly for professional and very high elo players. You're better off focusing on big pictures like, let's burst the fed ADC or focus on objectives. Unless you are smurfing and can steamroll all players by yourself as Zed or LB(something i've done smurfing and I've won games 5v4 from the start going 24-0 because it's really that big of a difference in play)

5: All your proof has no substance whatsoever and would be logically destroyed by facts. Rank does matter, it always will. If you're stuck in Bronze I promise you no matter how much you feel your team is keeping you there it's not your team, ITS YOU. I can't stress this enough, as someone who started off being stuck in Bronze and with the same mentality, then went and made another acc and got it up to as high as Diamond 3 at one point. I went back to my Bronze acc and my MMR got so high they jumped it from Bronze 3 to Bronze 1 over 3 games. That's proof rank DOES matter.

Niyumi1 votes

{quoted}

So I took time to read this and a couple things here:

1: You don't need to apologize to anyone for writing something, if they don't want to read it or accidentally read it, that's their problem but good gesture.

2: Rank does matter, and it's an extremely good indicator and some could even argue, the only indicator of how good you are in this game. Put me on any Bronze account ever, any one, Bronze 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and I will be out of Bronze in 1-2 days. That's a fact. The fact that this SINGULAR gold player was playing in Bronze MMR could be many reasons, either his attitude makes his lose a lot of games(in low elo this happens A LOT) or his play has fallen off

3: Avoid talking in low elo: This will save you a lot of grief, I honestly have zero idea what anyone even bothers judging eachother in low elo, I am 100% guarenteed you aren't doing everything correctly, focus on yourself, and not your teammates, do the correct play and ATTEMPT to work as a team. You brought it upon yourself by initiating the conversation and you should know better, especially with a duo(who are more proned to both be toxic)

4: In low elo, stop focusing on the little things, look at the big picture. Little things like oh I'm 400 gold ahead I think I can outplay someone is mostly for professional and very high elo players. You're better off focusing on big pictures like, let's burst the fed ADC or focus on objectives. Unless you are smurfing and can steamroll all players by yourself as Zed or LB(something i've done smurfing and I've won games 5v4 from the start going 24-0 because it's really that big of a difference in play)

5: All your proof has no substance whatsoever and would be logically destroyed by facts. Rank does matter, it always will. If you're stuck in Bronze I promise you no matter how much you feel your team is keeping you there it's not your team, ITS YOU. I can't stress this enough, as someone who started off being stuck in Bronze and with the same mentality, then went and made another acc and got it up to as high as Diamond 3 at one point. I went back to my Bronze acc and my MMR got so high they jumped it from Bronze 3 to Bronze 1 over 3 games. That's proof rank DOES matter.

The differences between the ranks (even the high ranks) are so minuscule that you can't really even notice them. Sure, going from diamond to bronze you'd be a lot better player, but silver to gold, or gold to plat? There is almost no difference. In fact, when I first started the game, I went against a Plat 2 Azir with over 3k games (on Azir) as Nid... and I won lane big time, and went on to absolutely dominate that game. Rank in this game means next to nothing, since your rank is 90% luck, 9% team comp / how broken or easy your champ is, and 1% individual skill. Look at the champs in Worlds (the "highest" level of gameplay) -- did you see any high skill champs except that one round with Azir? No? What did you see then? A lot of targeted ability and AA-based champs who did nothing but click on people and delete them or CC them into infinity. Skill just isn't a thing in this game, unfortunately.

So please, stop touting rank around like you're actually good or something. The majority of your rank is irrelevant.

lolptwo2 votes

Everything you just said was completely fallacious and false except for one thing. The difference between Rank between individual tiers is not massive however it's still an improvement. Gold 4 is INDEED better than Gold 5 similar to how getting a 90% on a test is better than getting a 85%. Silver to Gold, Gold to Plat is still a huge difference I can only imagine you lack to realize this because you haven't played at all these different ranks.

I for one have. Ranks are there for a reason and no rank is not 90% luck and 9% team comp is 1% skill. You sound salty because you might have 1% skill at this game for being Bronze, stop being so obtuse.

If that were the case there wouldn't be a massive market of EloBoosting, anywhere from Plat to Diamond that can literally bring a player up from Bronze to Gold IN A DAY, something most Bronze don't complete OVER A YEAR. The difference of skill is massive.

The difference between what you see, and what I see is completely different and that's is exactly my point. What you see as an obvious and easy play is oftentimes in the pro scene much harder than you'd ever know and the fact your ignorance is so bliss is the reason you don't understand it. I see TONS of extremely high level plays in the LCS, every single time I watch the game. Where you probably see none, yet you can't figure out why you can't climb. Such a shame.

Maybe you should stop self pitying yourself and using a psychological defense of "it's not your fault" and "out of you control" and actually fess up to being bad at the game.

Please stop talking about things you have no idea about, you come off ignorant and quite frankly. Embarrassing.

Niyumi1 votes

Okay, honestly, I can't stop laughing from reading this. So excuse any typos, since my eyes are tearing up from laughter. xD

Ranking in League is, in no way, equatable to taking a test. In a test, you're checking your knowledge of a subject. In League, your rank is determined by your team's performance (sorry, no, one person can not carry a game unless the enemy team is absolutely retarded -- which is often the case in League, but anyway), not your knowledge of the game (if that was the case, I'd be Challenger/Master). Wanna know what I see in higher ranks? I see less skill-based champs, less comp variation, less item variation... just a bunch of cookie cutter kids that can't ever deviate from what the "pros" say works, and so chain CC while spamming targeted abilities. That's no indicator of skill, it's just how well you can exploit what Riot screwed up.

Oh, and by the way, explain why I beat a high-plat Azir with over 3k games (yes, three THOUSAND), when I first started? Like I was literally a fresh 30, and I had only played for a few weeks. Played NIDALEE into him, and absolutely stomped lane. Tell me, why did that happen, if the ranks are soooooooooooo different from each other?

So yeah, that little breakdown of your rank isn't inaccurate.

  • Luck (90%): You have to be lucky enough to get a team that has some semblance of a brain, and an enemy team that doesn't vastly outclass yours. Get both, good job, you have the first foot in the door.

  • Team comp (9%): You have no hard CC chains? Well, too bad. You lose. The only way to be competitive in League (so much skill involved) is to lock people down with so much CC that they can never fight back -- 'cause why learn to fight someone if you can just render them unable, right? You also need to have a tank or four, in order to peel for your clicker (sorry, ADC), so that they can click on people and safely AFK to victory.

  • Individual skill (1%): Honestly, skill doesn't mean a whole lot in League. The champions in this game are so pathetically easy that a toddler could play this game, so it doesn't really take any effort to actually do anything. Skill is only involved in recognizing enemy mistakes and capitalizing on them, and knowing how to properly play your lane and all that. Mechanical skill doesn't mean much, since it's not really a factor in League of Clickers -- in the event that your champion isn't a clicker, then it's not very hard to lead with massive skillshots that you really can't miss with.

Well duh, ELO boosting is a thing. Wanna know why? 'cause, in Diamond, you know how to exploit all of Riot's screw ups to the highest degree of asshole-ness, and you can carry lower games like that. Coupled with the fact that most people below plat have absolutely horrible common sense and map awareness... yeah, it's pretty easy to carry. But, again, it's not because you're good, it's just because everyone in low ELO is just worse than the average player.

"What you see as an obvious and easy... much harder than you'd ever know..."

Please, do enlighten me. How exactly is it hard to push R as Ori, then push R as Malph, then push R as Yasuo? Is it REALLY that hard for your finger to push R? I don't get it. Oh, maybe it's hard to right-click on peo-- no, that's not hard either... Do tell -- what was so hard about the "spectacular plays" that I saw in Worlds? Oooooh, maybe it's the way Lee $in mashed buttons and killed people with all his balance. Is that hard to do? Maybe an Elise player clicked on someone in a really convoluted way, like with his toe, and that makes it hard?

So, please, I want to know what makes this game so hard to play when a mentally challenged monkey could likely play it.

Uh huh. So tell me, why'd I go 19/0 on my first game with LB? 18/5 on my first game with Fizz? 14/3 on my first game with Yi? Those are all "Super pro" champions, right? What about when I went 26/1 with Rek'sai (on, you know, my second game with her)? I see her in Worlds a lot. Skill is not a factor in this game, as much as you want to fool yourself into believing you're good.

I'd love for you to prove me wrong though. So I dare you! Prove me wrong!

(By the way, your grammar/word choice is cute, but stop trying to impress people. I can tell it's forced, and not even proper. So... :3)

lolptwo2 votes

I'll begin by

"Well duh, ELO boosting is a thing. Wanna know why? 'cause, in Diamond, you know how to exploit all of Riot's screw ups to the highest degree of asshole-ness, and you can carry lower games like that. Coupled with the fact that most people below plat have absolutely horrible common sense and map awareness... yeah, it's pretty easy to carry. But, again, it's not because you're good, it's just because everyone in low ELO is just worse than the average player."

- You just backhanded admitted you have zero common sense and map awareness PROVED my POINT and lost your argument all in one paragraph. _ _ However I digress I'll enlighten you, just because I feel bad honestly.

"Ranking in League is, in no way, equatable to taking a test. In a test, you're checking your knowledge of a subject" - This is EXACTLY what you're doing in League you are in fact checking the knowledge of THE GAME which includes, damage output, powerspikes, positioning, and a shit ton of other things(the rest you'll have to learn on your own).

"Please, do enlighten me. How exactly is it hard to push R as Ori, then push R as Malph, then push R as Yasuo? Is it REALLY that hard for your finger to push R? I don't get it. Oh, maybe it's hard to right-click on peo-- no, that's not hard either... Do tell -- what was so hard about the "spectacular plays" that I saw in Worlds? Oooooh, maybe it's the way Lee $in mashed buttons and killed people with all his balance. Is that hard to do? Maybe an Elise player clicked on someone in a really convoluted way, like with his toe, and that makes it hard?

So, please, I want to know what makes this game so hard to play when a mentally challenged monkey could likely play it."

So are you dumber than a mentally challenged monkey? I don't get why you keep insulting yourself? Also that's funny that is what you see. What you don't realize is that in high elo you actually have to time out every powermove and spike from all other 9 champions in the game, for example. Let's say you ULT as malphite and your Yasuo or Ori doesn't have their ult up. You might very well lose that fight. That's just 1 out of NINE players you have to keep check on, add on items, ult timers, flash timers, ignite timers, Q W E R timers on all champs, in a 20 sec fight the whole time, ALL while positioning yourself correctly, focusing the proper champion, dodging skill shots, hitting skill shots, and maneuvering minions? Yeah it's pretty skill based buddy, but I don't blame you as you see none of this in Bronze and your **KNOWLEDGE **of the game is pretty weak. Also not to mention that is just ONE phase of the game. Laning phase, Early Game, Mid Game, Dragon Postiioning, Baron, Jg countering, vision placement is ALL part of the normal game things that you all have to SIMULTANEOUSLY keep track of to be good at the game. Which is an AMAZING feat done properly.

_Perhaps if you understood all these things that can be "accomplished by a mentally challenged monkey" you would easily be much higher rank than Bronze where the majority of players do little to NONE of these things. _

***Uh huh. So tell me, why'd I go 19/0 on my first game with LB? 18/5 on my first game with Fizz? 14/3 on my first game with Yi? Those are all "Super pro" champions, right? What about when I went 26/1 with Rek'sai (on, you know, my second game with her)? I see her in Worlds a lot. Skill is not a factor in this game, as much as you want to fool yourself into believing you're good.

Oh, and by the way, explain why I beat a high-plat Azir with over 3k games (yes, three THOUSAND), when I first started? Like I was literally a fresh 30, and I had only played for a few weeks. Played NIDALEE into him, and absolutely stomped lane. Tell me, why did that happen, if the ranks are soooooooooooo different from each other?***

_ I'll put these two together because they both follow the exact same fallacy. Every game is different, the fact you killed someone does not equate you're the same rank as him. It means exactly what it means, you beat a player of higher elo. Not all of them, A singular player from that Elo. Also who cares if you had a couple good games. Perhaps your rank is slightly better meaning you will eventually go higher but games GET HARDER the higher up you go. I know you've had a small sample size but if you were to play on a Diamond account you would most likely skyrocket back down to Bronze so fast you wouldn't even notice. That is also backed up by statistics. Also I'm not claiming I'm amazing, but something I know as a fact is that i'm 1: Better than you, and 2: You're bad. That is a fact you have to believe until YOU prove otherwise. _

The Swede1 votes

can you make a tl;dr

shyv1 votes

i feel like i just read your entire life story

JARmates1 votes

OP, why didn't you say your rank was Diamond? I never play rank in my life and I know I am a diamond player skill wise.

DRAGOON Burst1 votes

I really hate people like this and this is why the League community is one of the worst. Oh, and I don't know what was going with that 2000 ping jump of yours but you may have been sabotaged by your own teammates, like with them messing with your connection.

Transgressor1 votes

Use the mute button.

/thread

KGBcommunist1 votes

I mute all every game now. Suggest you do the same. It spares you from tilting and a headache.

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