/mute all is not a solution

Muted Observer·Apr 20, 2018·19 votes·9,246 views

When people post something in these boards and people respond with /mute all you are not helping them you are concealing a growing problem that needs to be addressed with league. If the general best strategy is to mute your companions in a team game so that you can only communicate through pings which lets be serious see maybe 10% intended use and 90% passive aggressive spamming. Then there is something wrong with the community and ignoring it may work for you but it won't work for everyone or in the long run. If you have a disease go to a doctor treat it don't cover it up with a bandage and hope it goes away. I can't stop you from telling people looking for direction and help /mute all but just know it's not helpful, it's not insightful, it's the laziest solution that does nothing for the problem.

49 Comments

Xivilai AnaxesApr 20, 20186 votes

If you're too sensitive to play a game full of aggressive manchildren maybe you need a new multiplayer game?

JohnnyNeverSinsApr 20, 20181 votes

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If you're too sensitive to play a game full of aggressive manchildren maybe you need a new multiplayer game?

Unfortunately many players are underage,there is a reason that the word hitler if im not mistaken is censored xd

breakordoom444Apr 20, 20184 votes

You really don't need anything other then pings to play a game. the chat is mainly for non-gameplay communication/12-year-olds flaming.

in truth there is no better choice then /mute all. Riot can't force someone to change their behavior, they can only sway peoples decisions. Mute all isn't the most ethical solution, but its the most efficient.

KarunamonApr 20, 20182 votes

Where's the ping for "They're building almost strictly damage, stack armor and you'll live longer"

Or "stop going off on your own with no vision, you'll get picked off"

Or "push mid, if we clear this teamfight, head straight for baron"

AwhegarkApr 20, 20184 votes

Even if you type it, they won't do it. Even if you tell them in voice chat, they wont do it. Most likely they will tell you to fuk off, or say something like "0/1 orianna giving me orders lul".

So yeah pings are all that is needed.

Azure HamsterApr 20, 20183 votes

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Even if you type it, they won't do it. Even if you tell them in voice chat, they wont do it. Most likely they will tell you to fuk off, or say something like "0/1 orianna giving me orders lul".

So yeah pings are all that is needed.

Not true. People often request I build an item late game (say, Mortal Reminder) and I say "yeah that's a good idea" when it's a good idea.

This all-or-nothing generalization people do is very unhelpful.

To deal with negativity I just mute any player that says anything negative the moment they do it. I get to hear good people make good suggestions that way.

Caitlyn

AwhegarkApr 25, 20181 votes

This is so fake, I doubt you say "yeah that's a good idea".

Azure HamsterApr 26, 20181 votes

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This is so fake, I doubt you say "yeah that's a good idea".

I am telling the truth. Doubt me if you want. Makes no difference to me.

Caitlyn

Jerry SeinfeIdApr 20, 20181 votes

you ping your tabis and ping their champs?

ping mid tower, after the fight ping baron?

KarunamonApr 20, 20182 votes

Or, you could just type the words and remove all ambiguity rather than taking the "I refuse to communicate with my team because I can't control myself" way out...

Jerry SeinfeIdApr 20, 20181 votes

I rarely mute someone. You said it was impossible to do, it isn't.

If you can't take the fact that some random guy on the internet is gonna call you a loser, then you better get creative with your pings.

Sergeant WeaApr 20, 20181 votes

You can also ping enemy items letting them know what to build. If they don't change their build after seeing their items, your request in chat won't do the job

KarunamonApr 20, 20181 votes

Unless they're new or inexperienced enough to not know a ton about itemization. Just pinging item 3147 isn't near as helpful as saying " Katarina 's stacking up hard on lethality, you should probably build an armor item"

KVbqbFsC8eApr 20, 20184 votes

It is helpful and for sensitive players, it is the solution.

Zed geniusApr 20, 20184 votes

/mute all is not a solution

it has worked for me several times

Pera vou AlmoçarApr 21, 20181 votes

/Mute all does not stop ppl from playing badly

Zed geniusApr 21, 20181 votes

nothing can stop people from being bad at the game

Pera vou AlmoçarApr 21, 20181 votes

it actualy can its called a brain and its not that hard to use it

TerozuApr 20, 20184 votes

You mute and report.

Muted ObserverApr 21, 20183 votes

How do you report for something you weren't witness too? Not trying to be smart but if you Mute all then you can't prove they said anything or are you just randomly reporting everyone you play with [sg-lux-2]

Snowman ArcApr 21, 20182 votes

You mute them after they say something you can report them for.

TerozuApr 21, 20183 votes

If they havnt said something reportable, why would you mute them?

comedybingbongsApr 20, 20183 votes

It is the solution. Praying for the Rito gods to "fix toxicity" is the dumbest fucking thing. League is a fun but frustrating game, and if you don't want to hear people's frustrations than you should certainly mute them.

There is almost 0 chance that muting someone will ever result in a lower level of strategic information being conveyed. Why? Because nobody below D1 will realistically have anything of any importance to every say

KaiokoApr 20, 20183 votes

I mean the real solution is for players to realize that what they are doing is unacceptable and that in the process of flaming back the person flaming them they are making the situation worse and penalizing the remaining members of their team.

Unfortunately, this assumes that people can be halfway mature and use common sense, and most of the people who complain on here have proven that they are incapable of both.

Jerry SeinfeIdApr 20, 20183 votes

it is tho? Who's gonna offend you if they can't talk to you?

Sergeant WeaApr 20, 20182 votes

username checks out lmao

Telephone BoothApr 20, 20182 votes

I think that's mainly said to people who put up with toxicity for an entire game, telling us how offended they were by multiple statements, quoting said player that was offending them... It's like, how did you know he said all that? You got offended by the very first thing, yet you kept reading line after line of insults? You need to mute all next time. You come here telling us how offended you were, yet you didn't choose to mute them. It's like people just want to be offended so they can come cry about it on the forums or something. A mute all would have helped greatly.

How do you suggest we help these people on the forums? Say sorry that happened to you? Just offer sympathy and no solution whatsoever? We aren't the designers of the game. We cant go hunt down the baddies who hurt their feelings. What do you recommend? Where is YOUR solution? Come on, don't be lazy...

Muted ObserverApr 21, 20181 votes

My solution when someone comes on to complain about a bad experience is to say "yeah it happens a lot the thing is not to let it get to you, it sucks that you had to go through that but not letting it deter you makes you a stronger person than the person who tried to hurt you, they only win if you let them." Something like that be encouraging and understanding to help solve the problem of sensitivity (oversensitivity IMO) in the community without blunting yourself to dealing with the problem.

Mute all does not make people less horrible it just makes them horrible in a way that you can hear them.

Luxana CrowngardApr 21, 20181 votes

So your solution is cookie-cutter responses.

Muted ObserverApr 21, 20181 votes

how is Mute all not a cookie cutter response at least my solution shows empathy and compassion

Luxana CrowngardApr 22, 20181 votes

You must be Delusional. Not once have I made any remark towards how mute all is or isn't a cookie cutter response. Why don't you read what you said and look what I replied to.

BijeesnyApr 21, 20181 votes

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I think that's mainly said to people who put up with toxicity for an entire game, telling us how offended they were by multiple statements, quoting said player that was offending them... It's like, how did you know he said all that? You got offended by the very first thing, yet you kept reading line after line of insults? You need to mute all next time. You come here telling us how offended you were, yet you didn't choose to mute them. It's like people just want to be offended so they can come cry about it on the forums or something. A mute all would have helped greatly.

^this

14cminurmumApr 21, 20182 votes

/mute the guy telling you to off yourself while jerking is to ur mums fat smelly p**** because surely this is the first time they have ever said something like that in chat.

Always BrokenApr 21, 20182 votes

It's almost like muting them doesn't stop their toxic ACTIONS. But who cares about Toxic Actions as long as you don't offend someone with deadly WORDS.

ModJeonGoyangiApr 21, 20182 votes

Hello!

Mute is for sure a huge help as it prevents you from seeing what the team is saying if you feel that they are being rude. Which could in turn distract you from your game play. It would be better to mute and simply communicate through pings. It would give you a much better chance to win. Its not a good idea to tell the person that you are muting them because it's just a way to egg people on and potentially send them on tilt, which can end up effecting your game in a more negative manner over just muting / ignoring them.

~KittySuppSquad [sona-playing] [sg-soraka]

5050BSApr 25, 20181 votes

Oh so that was my mistake ok. Got it

NikoC2016Apr 20, 20181 votes

i agree. i ask for tips for new champs or if my game is going sour. i often get ignored as does my requests for team work more often than not.

Noor SakataApr 20, 20181 votes

I agree , it doesn't help at all , in fact , it makes everything worse if they know that they are muted

MíelláApr 20, 20181 votes

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I agree , it doesn't help at all , in fact , it makes everything worse if they know that they are muted

then don't tell them that they are muted?

Noor SakataApr 20, 20181 votes

actually it's very easy to tell if someone muted you or not , for example when you wanna ask them for something , like when you are a jungler , the mid laner muted all , you ask him to take blue buff in chat, but he doesn't reply , even though you did nothing , generally ignoring questions directed to you in chat gives a feeling that they are muted

fatherdariusApr 20, 20181 votes

It isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, you're correct.

It's one of multiple tools for dealing with toxicity, along with muting pings and emotes, post-game report options as well as support tickets.

Muted ObserverApr 21, 20182 votes

I do agree mute all definitely has its use but the way it's wielded is like saying a spade is the perfect tool. Mute all for me is a tilt preventer because if I'm about to tip Mute all just saves my sanity.

fatherdariusApr 21, 20181 votes

I will concede that there are some who mute when it's actually unnecessary.

I'm perfectly okay with people being frustrated in game - as long as they're expressing their frustration without being rude or insulting. Some people mute at the first sign of frustration. As for me, I do not think that is necessary.

I can't blame someone else for their use of the tool though. From each according to his ability, and too each according to his need.

hi ìm grootApr 21, 20181 votes

Growing problem? Its called taking responsibility for yourself and not expecting some big brother figure to come in and fix your problems. Alot of people like myself could give a fk less about toxic players, its the ones who go into ranked without trying to win that are annoying because they're the ones there is no answer to.

DeloricVIApr 21, 20181 votes

yeah, tell me about it. Last time I muted everyone because they were being toxic and muted half of the team's pings, I ended up with 3 reports for "Greifing" even though I told them they are all muted because they were being distracting. Good thing I didn't get even a chat ban for it.

But either way, yeah, I kind of see where you're going. I mean, I've been saying for a long time that chat can be a valuable tool to tell people what's going on without being a Discord voice chat or being partied up with everyone on your team. And, besides, these people generally are going to ruin the experience for at least 2 out of 4 people that didn't mute them and continue to engage with them.

I mean, mute isn't a bad solution as long as everyone uses it. If the person is muted by everyone then they can't get a reaction, which is what they're usually looking for when they're being toxic.

And the passive-aggressive spamming thing is spot-on. I try to keep my ping usage limited to 80% useful pings, and a solid 20% passive-aggressive pings (hey, no one's perfect) but there are some people that just ping missing all over your lane when they see you flash when you shouldn't have, or whiff your ult.

Sorry bot lane is so boring, that you can micro-manage the rest of your team while supporting, and passively-aggressively ping their lane whenever they make the smallest mistake, Sona.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Muted ObserverApr 21, 20181 votes

People seem to misunderstand something here I'm not debating the effectiveness of mute all as a solution to toxicity in game. I am rebuking its use as a catch all answer to anyone looking for anything in player behavior. Every single THREAD I go into has /mute all as one if not most of its responses. It's not conducive to the point of the behavior threads to just tell someone who is asking for help in dealing with their own behavior or others behavior to simply ignore them. I do appreciate the response given and the level of depth this conversation has gotten though, very engaging to see people talking about how to deal with the mute issue.

DestructoDaveApr 21, 20181 votes

My issue with it mute all is you are still punished by Mute all. I saw around here someone saying that its taking forever to get their honor back and they have been muting all forever.

It was replied with by some super poster Riot wants you to be a good part of the community and say nice/helpful things all the time. What? So even if you mute all, you still get punished because you arent posting GJ every 5 seconds?

If mute all is what keeps you a non-toxic part of the community, so be it. It shouldn't come with stipulations. Its punishment enough to basically be playing a single player game at that point with no actual player interaction, much less punishing people's honor.

Everyone reacts to things differently. I dont think people who get in trouble for raging are somehow lesser human beings. I have a friend who refuses to play League because it makes him mad. He never rages in any game, but league causes him untold amounts of stress and anger. He just refuses to play the game. Anytime I come back to League and try to get him to play some he just refuses. Doesn't like getting mad. So if people have a work around to deal with it, they shouldn't be punished because they aren't spamming feel goods every 3 minutes.