spamming pings is somewhat okay but flaming is not?

AhrimanZ·Feb 19, 2018·2 votes·720 views

So if your teammate spams the hell out of alive/respawning in pings and question mark pings is alright but if i tell him "stop pinging me fucking moron" im the bad guy?

16 Comments

o brigid oFeb 19, 20182 votes

Ping spam may be annoying, but it is nothing but a noise and 90% of the time they are being used by players trying to communicate with their team. In my experience most players spamming pings are doing so because their team isn't responding to just 1 ping at a time. I acknowledge that it happens upon occasion that players intentionally use pings to harass a player, but this is exactly why the report system exists and you can always submit a ticket.

Ping spam, even when intentionally used to annoy another player, is never on the same level as flaming. Flaming is going out of your way to berate and insult a player's skill, character, who they are as a person, etc. Personal attacks are obviously way more severe than annoying sound effects.

Both of these things can be muted by another player. But everyone is responsible for their own actions regardless of who started it or how anyone else was behaving. Someone ping spamming you or not has zero influence on you being punished for YOUR behavior. It is never okay to flame another player. Ever. Another player's bad behavior does not justify yours and "they started it" or "they were bad too" doesn't mean you won't be punished.

eren jægerFeb 20, 20182 votes

{quoted} Ping spam, even when intentionally used to annoy another player, is never on the same level as flaming. Flaming is going out of your way to berate and insult a player's skill, character, who they are as a person, etc. Personal attacks are obviously way more severe than annoying sound effects.

You seem to be missing the OP's point. This isn't the teammate ping spamming that an enemy is missing. This is, you died. Now your teammate has spammed "?" on you 5x and then spammed your death timer till respawn

o brigid oFeb 20, 20181 votes

You seemed to miss my point, that flaming, regardless of other players trying to annoy you with pings or any othe. behavior, will still get you punished because we are all responsible for our own actions.

Again, the report system exists for a reason and if you believe other players are breaking the summiner's code, nothing is stopping you from reporting their behavior and elaborating in the comment box for a manual review.

AhrimanZFeb 20, 20182 votes

The problem is spam pinging is rarely even an offense it will just go unnoticed while we will see just the flamer, if you can mute pings you can also mute the flamer. Don't tell me this is not a hypocrisy, spam pinging your team mate tilting them from the start of a game not having a little empathy but as soon as the tilted guy from all your pings loses it (mentaly) starts to flame you, all of a sudden you act like you don't know why and you feel insulted? It's the same as the flame just in a different way, imagine spitting someone in the face but act all confused once he punches you like you don't know why.

eren jægerFeb 20, 20182 votes

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imagine spitting someone in the face but act all confused once he punches you like you don't know why.

This is probably the best description of the punishment system in League to date. Someone spits in your face nonstop without consequence, but if you react then you are at fault, and they probably still aren't.

The Cream ReaperFeb 19, 20181 votes

it's because you have a choice between muting pings or reacting to the harass

reacting to the harass rewards the trolls and gets you in trouble

muting doesn't

your choice

AhrimanZFeb 19, 20181 votes

Well pings can sometimes help and muting them can be bad at some moments?

The Cream ReaperFeb 19, 20181 votes

like i said. you have a choice

AhrimanZFeb 19, 20181 votes

Yes but people also have a choice to mute me if they consider me flaming instead of that they'll just report me and all we will see is me flaming and not their spam pinging

Coopa123Feb 19, 20181 votes

Do you think spam pinging and calling someone a retard are on the same level?

Jo0oFeb 19, 20181 votes

Neither are good, and one asshole flaming is easier for the team to ignore than two. When you respond to a troll or flamer, you're escalating the situation considerably, and doing no good for anybody.

ModPeriscopeFeb 19, 20181 votes

I had a Ryze who spammed pings, players' death timers, and items. It was miserable. I didn't say that was annoying until the post game. Then he said "I'm reporting you for being toxic."

Ok guy.

I should have asked him to stop during the game, but I think others had already tried/I thought it'd be a waste of time. At any rate, you can ask them to stop, or just mute their pings.

BlueThingamajigFeb 19, 20181 votes

Spamming pings isn't okay. Which is why Riot implemented the ability to mute pings.

Furthermore, "Stop pinging me" is a perfectly valid thing to say. In contrast, "fucking moron" is not appropriate. When you respond and lower yourself to the other player's level, you do indeed become A 'bad guy' in addition to the person ping spamming.