We would get banned for the "jokes" riot makes at meetings

Beastrod··3 votes·2,063 views
Former Riot Director Speaks Out About Toxic Culture At League Of Legends Developer

Its simple. If the what this guys writes is true, players would get 14 day bans for making the same jokes in game that riot does during meetings/conferences. While riot wants to have an "edgy" and "cool" culture, they want us players not to type anything that could remotely be offensive. Maybe riot needs a bot to monitor their meetings notes......

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disregardable5 votes

the point of the punishment system is to remove players that cause other people to quit the game.

when 1 person is causing multiple games to be unfun, they are potentially causing multiple people to quit the game, and therefore are costing Riot more than they're contributing.

Beastrod1 votes

I agree that is the philosophy behind the punishment, but in actuality riot has taken it too far. Often players being punished for joking around, or being sarcastic. Creating an environment where people only can say positive things and anything borderline not positive opens you up for punishment. Scarra has made a couple of videos discussing this issue.

AnAggravatedPimp3 votes

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I agree that is the philosophy behind the punishment, but in actuality riot has taken it too far. Often players being punished for joking around, or being sarcastic. Creating an environment where people only can say positive things and anything borderline not positive opens you up for punishment. Scarra has made a couple of videos discussing this issue.

I've been playing since season two and have been a sarcastic ass since then. No punishment, no warnings. Hell I've been around so long I've heard this exact same argument directed at Lyte and the response was something like "We don't want players to be positive all the time but to be negative less often." Meaning players can be angry in chat, just not every single game, and every time the gold advantage doesn't favor their team.

Beastrod1 votes

I used to be a sarcastic player (dont play anymore, still watch some streams and pro games), but after the tribunal was taken away and they switched to an automated system I felt heavily pressured to drink the kool - aid. I have had friends get banned chat restricted for some pretty minor things in my opinion. So, it's possible they aren't as bad as I believe, but i think there is a pretty wide spread perception that saying anything negative in game will have negative consequences.

AnAggravatedPimp2 votes

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I used to be a sarcastic player (dont play anymore, still watch some streams and pro games), but after the tribunal was taken away and they switched to an automated system I felt heavily pressured to drink the kool - aid. I have had friends get banned chat restricted for some pretty minor things in my opinion. So, it's possible they aren't as bad as I believe, but i think there is a pretty wide spread perception that saying anything negative in game will have negative consequences.

That's because, especially on the boards, people don't see themselves as that bad. They remember a few games getting tilted then when they eat a ban they post here contesting the ban without realizing that they hav a looooooooong history of salty behavior. A friend of mine is in that catagory or keyboard warrior, he's always been on a hair trigger in game but he's never consistently salty to the point that he's eaten more than a 25 game chat restriction.

Seriously, I'd say 80% of players don't hav to change how they act in game, just be aware of whats appropriate at the time and when in doubt just play the game and save the chat for calling in game plays.

TheKingOfBiches1 votes

That's your experience,not everyone elses. I don't see your point.

Kei1433 votes

That's because scarra doesnt understand how the system works.

But to be fair to him, Riot doesnt do a good job in displaying how their behavior system works. You can't expect everyone to hang out here in to learn the system.

Shelobs Sister2 votes

Google "Barry Hawkings The Story Of Why I Left Riot Games". It's also on Reddit, which is a conversation Riot Mods CANNOT CONTROL like they can here. This, the Kotaku Article, Remilia, and for those who don't know RIOT LYTE HIMSELF did... some things. Google about it yourself. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE.

I may forgive... someday. But I WILL NEVER FORGET no matter what discussions Riot Mods try to sweep away. I acknowledge that not all Riot employees do this kind of stuff, but I bet Marc and Lyte thought "it's not us - we're not sexist or toxic" too...

Elise Spiders are patient.Elise

In the meantime, I stopped buying RP a while ago, and I won't be buying any until Riot decides "hey we need to apologize for promoting things like R--- Culture."

(Funny SideNote: That player who got punished for playing Nunu summoner 11 Support has gotta be like "LMAO I got punished for THAT by people who promote and/or ignore r--- culture corporate policy?")

Will Riot Games ever be "reformed"? Well, it's possible. I wouldn't mind being able to feel good about myself when I buy a cool new skin. But I don't, right now.

Imperial Pandaa5 votes

To be fair, most discussions that get removed by moderation (which be mindful are not Riot Employees) are ones that usually go to an extreme or spirals way out of control.

Extreme: [Made up post] "omg Riots promotes rape culture! Every single employee deserves to be carved up but a rusty cheese grater." As it is pretty much wishing death or extreme pain with little room for discussion.

Spirals: this one actually splits a few different ways. [Made up post] OP makes it clear that they don't wish to discuss anything and simply calls anyone who disagrees a waiting rapist, idiot, etc. [Different Made Up post] Discussions spiral out of control by posters resulting in many personal attacks on multiple people. Instead of deleting each and every comment involved and possibly edits any that have deleted posts in quotes. It is simpler to delete the entire post.

TheKingOfBiches1 votes

The worst part is that they litteraly fired Riot Sanjuro for being toxic,when their whole company is toxic as well!

Their shouldn't be double standards,either put your company at the same standards as your players,or let the players be toxic as you let your company be toxic.

Aneirin4 votes

The worst part is that they litteraly fired Riot Sanjuro for being toxic

No, they did not fire him for ruining gameplay for other players. Don't compare oranges to apples. Publicly ridiculing and wishing death on someone on social media in your official capacity as an employee is something that would get you fired from any business.

TheKingOfBiches1 votes

Where did I say he ruined games? No im legit confused, Litteraly quote where I said he ruined games. Like you even quoted my exact sentence,and changed it to fit your narrative.

No,he was fired because he was toxic to tyler1,riot even said they fired him for that.

Aneirin6 votes

Because you're using the word toxic as a vague definition to try and make the two offences the same when they're not. There's a big difference between someone trolling in-game and publicly abusing someone on social media.

Provide a quote where riot said they fired him "for being toxic" and I'll apologise.

TheKingOfBiches1 votes

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There's a big difference between someone trolling in-game and publicly abusing someone on social media.

Ok?im not talking about trolling,I'm talking about toxicity.he wasn't abusing tyler1 if he wasn't even talking to him and he wasn't there lmao.

Provide a quote where riot said they fired him "for being toxic" and I'll apologise.

Ok,it says they fired him for wishing death on tyler1,but wishing death is "toxic" so i don't see how that matters.so he was fired for being "toxic".

Subject 51 votes

Lul I got a 14 day suspension for making a joke that 5-7 other players joined in on the rest of the match. It was racial because we had a black champion in the game, but this 1 Donut eating fuck apparently got upset about the roleplay so I got punished for it.

RIP: Don't make jokes in a childrens game.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

The fact you aren't certain how many joined it means anywhere between 2 and 4 people got upset by it.

Subject 51 votes

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The fact you aren't certain how many joined it means anywhere between 2 and 4 people got upset by it.

It's been 7+ months, chill.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

I am, just correcting math. Even if it was 7, that leaves 2 who may have been upset by it and reported.

Also, what is wrong with eating donuts? Powdered donuts are amazing and fresh hot glazed are too.

Subject 52 votes

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I am, just correcting math. Even if it was 7, that leaves 2 who may have been upset by it and reported.

Also, what is wrong with eating donuts? Powdered donuts are amazing and fresh hot glazed are too.

Well the next time I get offended about a joke being made in public I'll have to Hugh Mungus my way into getting somebody punished for a sense of humor. That seems to be popular thinking in the LoL community.

Also Gorden Ramsay meme, because his sense of humor is gnarly.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

I mean, if it is in a business, you probably could.

Ah, that explains it. I only know Ramsey for being a dick towards adults and loving towards kids.

Shroom Merchant1 votes

they doing the sjw thing to cover it up

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