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I tried to correct my behavior, I stopped swearing, I stopped using all-caps.

God Emperor desu··2 votes·883 views

Before you read this, please let me clarify. That my whole team was being toxic in the pregame lobby, yelling at me and making me feel uncomfortable. This guy picked Urgot mid after saying he was going to pick something stupid because I chose to go Garen support. I honestly thought he was going to intentionally feed.

These guys honestly banded up against me and abused the system because you can't see their chatlogs, only mine. They even came to MY LANE and intentionally fed the enemy team just to make sure that I could be reported. I'm HONESTLY TRYING TO CORRECT MY BEHAVIOR.

I honestly loved playing this game over the course of 4 years and spent several hundred dollars to support it's continued existence and development... but with the recent development of toxicity in the community... I guess it's time to simply move on... and accept the fact that I'm permanently suspended from this game for the 'extreme nature of my toxicity'. I stopped swearing in chat... I stopped cussing. I'm doing my best to ignore that constant attacks at me for playing the game how I play it... with innovation and different methods that others haven't seen before... only to be set back at the starting line for following my instinct and defending myself from individuals more toxic than I am.

Game 1 God Emperor desu: How to play Urgot God Emperor desu: "Report Garen for making me Int." God Emperor desu: It wasn't a joke. God Emperor desu: It was a lesson. God Emperor desu: Did you learn from my teachings, young padawan? God Emperor desu: Tax God Emperor desu: For disengage God Emperor desu: Every time there's a Shaco God Emperor desu: They're always toxic God Emperor desu: But then they start to lose God Emperor desu: And blame team. God Emperor desu: You will blame your team though. God Emperor desu: It's only a matter of deaths. God Emperor desu: Well God Emperor desu: I guess I just have to play like Trist doesn't exist God Emperor desu: Why are my CS disappearing randomly? God Emperor desu: Is there somebody else botlane? God Emperor desu: Here it comes God Emperor desu: THE FINGER God Emperor desu: POINTED AT ME God Emperor desu: I do God Emperor desu: As God Emperor desu: I God Emperor desu: Please. God Emperor desu: You blind God Emperor desu: Old God Emperor desu: Man God Emperor desu: Do that to start. God Emperor desu: Stop typing. God Emperor desu: You have God Emperor desu: 3 deaths God Emperor desu: and no kills God Emperor desu: There it is God Emperor desu: The blame God Emperor desu: infantile God Emperor desu: perspective God Emperor desu: I do not care about your sentiments God Emperor desu: It's your own failures that kill you. God Emperor desu: XD God Emperor desu: I can't do anything God Emperor desu: Trist fed them too hard God Emperor desu: All she does is waste her jump on a minion in front of her God Emperor desu: Then die God Emperor desu: And type some excuse. God Emperor desu: You have 45cs God Emperor desu: To 118 God Emperor desu: You don't even know how to cs God Emperor desu: All I do is hit the ones you'll miss God Emperor desu: Excuses God Emperor desu: Feeders. God Emperor desu: How am I toxic? God Emperor desu: You are feeding God Emperor desu: You are dying God Emperor desu: Coming to my lane God Emperor desu: And intentionally giving them kills God Emperor desu: w/e God Emperor desu: Enjoy getting carried I guess. God Emperor desu: I mean God Emperor desu: I can't really do anything malicious. God Emperor desu: Because I enjoy playing this game. God Emperor desu: But you keep calling me toxic God Emperor desu: And trying to hurt my feelings God Emperor desu: For no reason God Emperor desu: Is unfinished God Emperor desu: Because I'm behind God Emperor desu: Thanks to trsit. God Emperor desu: ADC God Emperor desu: Has more deaths God Emperor desu: Than I do. God Emperor desu: Plz stop dying God Emperor desu: Plz stop typing God Emperor desu: Plz stop saying 'muted'. God Emperor desu: For no reason God Emperor desu: Despite the fact that you clearly haven't muted me. God Emperor desu: I don't really care. God Emperor desu: But plz stop being so... God Emperor desu: Edgy God Emperor desu: I guess. God Emperor desu: 0/5 God Emperor desu: LEe God Emperor desu: Stop being toxic God Emperor desu: I don't care about your desire to try and hurt me. God Emperor desu: I've heard what people like you say God Emperor desu: A thousand times God Emperor desu: And I just God Emperor desu: Don't God Emperor desu: Care. God Emperor desu: Stop talking? God Emperor desu: Stop defending my honor? God Emperor desu: Stop defending myself? God Emperor desu: So you can run your mouth? God Emperor desu: And unjustly report me? God Emperor desu: Rediculous God Emperor desu: Muted. God Emperor desu: gg wp

Make sure you never talk in game chat... because you'll be permanently suspended just like I was.

16 Comments

Shifue Draven3 votes

that is the one thing i have yet to understand about the reporting system and i even said this with the ask riot thing. i have been cussed out, flamed, trolled, called everything under the sun, i have had full 4 man teams (on my side) troll me the whole game and i have yet to ever get a report about any of them being banned or suspended. yet i have seen some players reported and punished for saying i am going to report x for feeding.

Sarutobi2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shifue Draven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O105uX2O,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-10-02T09:05:54.697+0000)

that is the one thing i have yet to understand about the reporting system and i even said this with the ask riot thing. i have been cussed out, flamed, trolled, called everything under the sun, i have had full 4 man teams (on my side) troll me the whole game and i have yet to ever get a report about any of them being banned or suspended. yet i have seen some players reported and punished for saying i am going to report x for feeding.

Probably because that isnt how the report system works. I mean we would all want that, but at the moment you only get a notification if your report was the one that got them punished. For all you know their next game could have been their last, or if it was a first offense they could have gotten chat restricted.

Shifue Draven1 votes

Fair enough but i know for me personally sometime i just quit playing for a while cause i get tired of the crap so i take breaks cause i really feel that these people are going unpunished and i get this a bit.But on the other point i don't get the whole banning or suspending people for saying stuff like can we report x for being afk to me that does not make sense. I can understand it for saying report x player for feeding or being bad etc. but for saying reporting afk? granted i have never been suspended or anything but this just makes me shake my head.

Sarutobi1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shifue Draven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O105uX2O,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-10-02T09:24:21.984+0000)

Fair enough but i know for me personally sometime i just quit playing for a while cause i get tired of the crap so i take breaks cause i really feel that these people are going unpunished and i get this a bit.But on the other point i don't get the whole banning or suspending people for saying stuff like can we report x for being afk to me that does not make sense. I can understand it for saying report x player for feeding or being bad etc. but for saying reporting afk? granted i have never been suspended or anything but this just makes me shake my head.

Because its considered harassment, it also doesnt make sense since multiple reports on the same person in the same game doesnt make the person ban/punished faster, so whats the point? it causes a negative environment that isnt needed. You should be reporting people you see as breaking the rules, not because someone told you to! I do think its kinda silly as well, but as far as i know (from being on these boards for a long time) No one has solely been ban just for saying Report X-person. its usually that along with being toxic in chat, harassing their teammates using racial slurs and other derogatories!

Shifue Draven1 votes

true i just hate the over all feel of the banning system as it stands now. It just seems to have a bad slant.

Astôlfo3 votes

"Trying" doesn't matter if you don't actually change.

God Emperor desu2 votes

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"Trying" doesn't matter if you don't actually change.

Don't downvote my topic without even reading what I posted in it, please. I did change, I changed how I talked. I changed my method of engagement in conversation, but when I am getting attacked constantly for no reason whatsoever, what am I supposed to do? Lie down and take it? Do you recognize my behavior as extremely toxic? Even if you'd read how much people cussed at me and blamed me without any reasonable cause?

You'll disagree because you didn't experience it firsthand. It's easy to judge people without seeing the entire conversation for yourself. You think you have some type of all-knowing wisdom, but you're just like me. On forums you're probably some type of white-knight figure, but in game you defend yourself just like me, the only difference between me and you is probably the difference in playstyle. Yet my playstyle is the reason why I'm getting permanently suspended, which is the entire cause of my team hating me? So I can't have personality? I can't carry when my ADC starts falling behind due to being out CS'd? Why can't I do that? I usually do. But now I can't carry ever again because I lost one game due to the flaming toxicity of my teammates.

Utility Backline1 votes

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Don't downvote my topic without even reading what I posted in it, please. I did change, I changed how I talked. I changed my method of engagement in conversation, but when I am getting attacked constantly for no reason whatsoever, what am I supposed to do? Lie down and take it? Do you recognize my behavior as extremely toxic? Even if you'd read how much people cussed at me and blamed me without any reasonable cause?

You'll disagree because you didn't experience it firsthand. It's easy to judge people without seeing the entire conversation for yourself. You think you have some type of all-knowing wisdom, but you're just like me. On forums you're probably some type of white-knight figure, but in game you defend yourself just like me, the only difference between me and you is probably the difference in playstyle. Yet my playstyle is the reason why I'm getting permanently suspended, which is the entire cause of my team hating me? So I can't have personality? I can't carry when my ADC starts falling behind due to being out CS'd? Why can't I do that? I usually do. But now I can't carry ever again because I lost one game due to the flaming toxicity of my teammates.

Learn to ignore nep2une, the guy is a walking hypocrisy. Word to the wise, if you start to best him, he instantly turns his responses into a diatribe of how a bullied friend of his committed suicide and that you are no better than those who bullied his friend. Ignore him.

~Best advice I ever gave. Utility Backline

I Snipe I2 votes

Do a charge back on all riot purchases if you used a credit card. That's what I would do 100%.

God Emperor desu1 votes

Keep in mind that this chatlog is the only one I got to copy and paste, and I was reported for picking Garen support and making our Tristana go 0/9 and being the main reason why we lost... Which is highly unreasonable and can be considered an abuse of privileges on part of those who reported me.

Kei1432 votes

oh people can report you for anything, even saying "mickey mouse" in game. Upon receiving a report, the system checks for toxicity and if none, the report gets thrown out and the ones abusing the report system will get their weight lowered (meaning the system will start ignoring their reports).

But it looks like you were the one instigating and provoking the initial flame war. So I'd say you deserved to be punished for baiting.

God Emperor desu1 votes

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oh people can report you for anything, even saying "mickey mouse" in game. Upon receiving a report, the system checks for toxicity and if none, the report gets thrown out and the ones abusing the report system will get their weight lowered (meaning the system will start ignoring their reports).

But it looks like you were the one instigating and provoking the initial flame war. So I'd say you deserved to be punished for baiting.

Where did you get that idea?

I didn't instigate anything. I was downtalked all game and trash-talked in pregame. If they'd let me have the chatlogs of everyone else in the game, you'd have a very different opinion on the matter.

But whatever, I guess riot's automated banning system is flawless and I was banned for 'Extremely Toxic Behavior that other players couldn't deal with'. I don't recognize this report, I request that this permanent suspension be revoked immediately.

God Emperor desu1 votes

Try to reform... try to keep playing a game I love, try to better myself. In the end it's all the same. Permanent suspension despite obvious improvements in my behavior... I tried. I got unbanned and then I bought the new Zed skin... and now I'm permanently suspended... the amount of unfairness is heartbreaking.

Utility Backline2 votes

[{quoted}](name=God Emperor desu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O105uX2O,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-10-02T08:39:26.894+0000)

Try to reform... try to keep playing a game I love, try to better myself. In the end it's all the same. Permanent suspension despite obvious improvements in my behavior... I tried. I got unbanned and then I bought the new Zed skin... and now I'm permanently suspended... the amount of unfairness is heartbreaking.

The problem is annoying, and here is my best fix for someone who cannot fully conform to Riots desired player. 1 - Less chat. Make your sentences longer, and try not to type more than anyone else. 2 - Become more of a victim and less of a bully. This requires changing the way you talk. Rather than informing the system that you've noticed your ally has 3 deaths and no kill participation - Just mention how you do not appreciate the verbal barrage and blatant cyber bullying. You will notice when you talk as a victim, the only way your trolls can respond back is either as a victim or as someone who is rude. And rude people get banned. 3 - Try not to go past 5 verbal exchanges with someone. If you find yourself in a battle to get the last word (your troll refuses to let you have the last word) simply high road him. Saying something like "player x you really need to grow up, I am just here to win some league of legends, I am through trying to change your behaviour". Notice how I did not tell this player he was being muted. I learned long ago, if you told a player they were being muted, you were behaving in a toxic manner. Riot simply wants you to, without mentioning it, mute the offensive player. I don't think it matters if you mute them, but if you are someone who needs to respond to an abusive player, try truly muting them. 4 - 50% of your messages should not involve the conversation with the troll. For every 1 message where you act as a victim, and ask your troll to stop being a cyber bully, make sure you have 1 message that is game oriented/related. Ex: "Player x. I find your behaviour is truly ignorant and rude!" 10 seconds later "I'm gonna ward dragon, think we can set up a play?" This type of strategy will also bait your troll into making a rude comment about your shot call ie: "rofl scrub that drag sucks and you suck for suggesting we do drag nerd kys". Now your troll is doing twice as many rude comments which is sure to sway public opinion over who is the troll and who is just a nice guy tyring to play league and not get bullied.

I meant this post as a sincere way of helping you. I personally despise how this is the only way to act now, i personally wish we could return to Season1 or at the very last Tribunal, but I had to learn just like you.

Good luck

God Emperor desu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Utility Backline,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O105uX2O,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-10-02T08:51:49.497+0000)

The problem is annoying, and here is my best fix for someone who cannot fully conform to Riots desired player. 1 - Less chat. Make your sentences longer, and try not to type more than anyone else. 2 - Become more of a victim and less of a bully. This requires changing the way you talk. Rather than informing the system that you've noticed your ally has 3 deaths and no kill participation - Just mention how you do not appreciate the verbal barrage and blatant cyber bullying. You will notice when you talk as a victim, the only way your trolls can respond back is either as a victim or as someone who is rude. And rude people get banned. 3 - Try not to go past 5 verbal exchanges with someone. If you find yourself in a battle to get the last word (your troll refuses to let you have the last word) simply high road him. Saying something like "player x you really need to grow up, I am just here to win some league of legends, I am through trying to change your behaviour". Notice how I did not tell this player he was being muted. I learned long ago, if you told a player they were being muted, you were behaving in a toxic manner. Riot simply wants you to, without mentioning it, mute the offensive player. I don't think it matters if you mute them, but if you are someone who needs to respond to an abusive player, try truly muting them. 4 - 50% of your messages should not involve the conversation with the troll. For every 1 message where you act as a victim, and ask your troll to stop being a cyber bully, make sure you have 1 message that is game oriented/related. Ex: "Player x. I find your behaviour is truly ignorant and rude!" 10 seconds later "I'm gonna ward dragon, think we can set up a play?" This type of strategy will also bait your troll into making a rude comment about your shot call ie: "rofl scrub that drag sucks and you suck for suggesting we do drag nerd kys". Now your troll is doing twice as many rude comments which is sure to sway public opinion over who is the troll and who is just a nice guy tyring to play league and not get bullied.

I meant this post as a sincere way of helping you. I personally despise how this is the only way to act now, i personally wish we could return to Season1 or at the very last Tribunal, but I had to learn just like you.

Good luck

You are a wondrous human being who seems to be speaking from experience, and I found myself audibly amused at this post, and how scientific it sounded. Thank you for your input, although it likely won't do me any good, since I was just permanently suspended and don't have the drive to start over again (I'm a pretty hardcore ARK Player who has been wiped innumerous times).

Utility Backline1 votes

[{quoted}](name=God Emperor desu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O105uX2O,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-10-02T09:00:33.436+0000)

You are a wondrous human being who seems to be speaking from experience, and I found myself audibly amused at this post, and how scientific it sounded. Thank you for your input, although it likely won't do me any good, since I was just permanently suspended and don't have the drive to start over again.

Yeah, that part does suck. But if you do come back, that method will save you. See my issue is like many others, possibly yours included, where we get into game and we see this belligerent type of player and we cannot stay silent. What I learned though was many of those trolly types, say 1-2 very negative things like "kys" or anything that is borderline very toxic. But they don't get banned... Why is that? Its because if you say 1 very rude thing but no one responds, they won, they got their mean comment, no one challenged them, and they are happy. The person who often gets banned is the one who says "whoa, thats not right, who does he think he is" and that person argues with him. Then randomly, the good guy gets banned, and the troll keeps gettng to play. Why is that? You gotta remember, most people do not read the chat, they see two people typing and they will either 1- report both 2- report the guy who fed the troll. but not the troll himself. They actually blame you for engaging with the troll.

Its not fair. Because this guy either gets to have his rude behaviour go on for a long period of time (cause no one engages him thus he has a low "verbal abuse" chat log) or you engage him, he has the public opinion turn on you, and you lose. This is why you see so many people nowadays get instantly triggered and become instant victims. 90% of the time you see it over non-issues. Ex: "Mid you need to ward both sides of your lane, you're getting ganked constantly" Mids response "OMG stop bullying me dude! Its just a game! focus on your lane!". Then after that exchange, you watch how that mid player continues to play. You notice he starts dying more, warding less...hes baiting you for another comment that he can use to play the victim.

Welcome to the post-Lyte League of Legends. If you cannot become this, then you will never make it. Its unfortunate. However, once you get used to the victim lifestyle, you'll have fun again. Just takes some mindset tweaking. And I'll admit. As a CIS white male, its alot of fun getting to try out the victim way of life. I can see its appeal.

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