Accomodating Toxic Players

AddictedtoKills··17 votes·1,493 views

League is a toxic game.

At least in my experience, every two games, at least one person is toxic on my side or theirs, either having tirades of cussing, going afk, or any number of fucked up things.

And you know what? I'm used to that. As sad as it is, I'm used to that in my ranked experience, and I just take it as it comes. Every twenty reports or so, one might even come up as successful, and I take some pleasure in that, but it's this sad stockholm syndrome that it's become normalized to see this behavior in my games.

But today, I met something that made me angry. Apoplectically angry. As usual, someone was being toxic. We had traded top turret for bot turret (each side took two kills; our bot, their top/jung) and the support starting calling me a fucking retard and saying he'll go afk because I didn't TP bot lane at 25% health in full view of them to dissuade bot's push while I was in the middle of a fight to take top tower.

But that's not what tilted me, oh no. Because there is something much, much rarer than mere toxic players. It's when perfectly fine players have to fucking bend over backwards to accommodate these fucking childish pieces of shit.

After it became clear that our support wasn't going to do anything, our midlaner switched tactics. He started insulting me, criticizing my play, even though we both knew that I was playing perfectly fucking fine, and eventually he said something along the lines of "he's a fucking idiot, he doesn't know what he's talking about, I'll honor you if we win this game." (Not an exact quote.)

This tilted me so fucking hard. I literally had to use my emergency key - the one that deactivates my enter key - so I wouldn't explode into a fucking angry tirade at him. And the worst part is, I understand our midlaner's thought process. Fuck, I've used similar ones before, though not as drastic - appealing to the toxic player, telling him it'll be okay, he's fine.

It's fucked up. Now that I think about it outside of my competitive haze to win, the mere idea makes me unbelievably fucking angry, enough to waste ten minutes writing up a shitty pointless post on the internet. I was doing this. I was sucking up to these wastes of humanity. Why the fuck should regular players who are perfectly fine have to accommodate toxic players, to coddle them so that they don't ruin our games? How fucked up is that shit? Putting up with their shit is one thing, but fucking REWARDING them for being fucking pieces of shit on the internet? I can deal with toxic players that go unpunished despite their reports. I can't fucking deal with having to kiss their fucking shoes just so they would fucking play the game and not ruin it for everyone else!

Jesus fucking christ, I'm going to get wasted now.

54 Comments

fatherdarius8 votes

Problem: You get tilted.summoner 3

Solution: Focus summoner 13, keep everything Zen (or is that keep everything Shen ?) - and simply don't tilt.

Method: Ignore, Mute, Report, Move On. And be as silent as Sona. Saying anything to toxic players is like Trump poking Kim Jong-un - it just makes things worse.

Result: Feel better summoner 7. And no more tilt.

Life's too short to get frustrated over league. Most humans will deal with imbecility and frustration in their daily life from all these sources: bosses, co-workers, spouses, relatives, children, clergy, work, school, etc. You can mute toxic players. It's harder to mute a toxic boss or an angry spouse.

I suggest you play Ivern. He's like an SSRI or an anti-anxiety drug for summoners.

Total Eclipse2 votes

Become a pastor or something christ

fatherdarius1 votes

Who says I'm not? :P

Tzuyu Is My Bias2 votes

I'd play Ivern but all my blue essences go for mastery levels.

Sraeg20132 votes

Don't worry, you'll get that sweet 20% discounted Ivern shard after you level up INFINITE number of times.

Strilter1 votes

... lol there are days I think I need drugs to play this game. So scared I'm going to get banned for defending myself, or my team mates.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

I mean, all you have to do is not make insults or negative implications about someone while you make said 'defenses.' If you simply say, "that's not true" or "stop being mean" you can't get in trouble. It's when you make offensive insults towards the person you are defending against that it stops being defending oneself and instead becomes retaliation.

TheChillPill1 votes

... or just get creative when insulting so that key words can not be found by whatever system checks reports ^^ just sayin. There are assholes in there who deserve way more than a ''that's not true''. summoner 14

young pow1 votes

this is not cool insulting is still insulting and should not be supported.

TheChillPill1 votes

I agree with you. Meanwhile, I believe that when Riot obviously does not do much against toxicity, one should stand up for oneself. Promoting a passive attitude in response to harassment is not healthy.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

{quoted}

Promoting a passive attitude in response to harassment is not healthy.

Behaviorally speaking, the opposite is actually true. By not responding to harassment you starve the behavior and so long as it isn't self-reinforcing it will stop on its own.

Master Noct1 votes

You're basically feeding fuel to a fire.

Nothing like this works.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Flaming people who have wronged you may feel satisfying, but it only makes the situation worse and it is unlikely to solve anything.

Is it really worth losing your account over?

Master Noct1 votes

That's just like calling the police over chicken nuggets. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should, because there's still penalties involved.

young pow2 votes

that's wrong if enough people report you riot wont even bother checking.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

That is incorrect. Riot's system doesn't take number of reports into account when deciding whether or not to review an account. And if something unusual happens they review it manually.

Oxyrotten1 votes

I can't play ranked anymore because I have to be stoned to shrug off the toxicity and trolling.

Master Noct1 votes

You don't get banned for defending yourself, that's just ridiculous, lmao.

Now if you're trying to defend your toxic behavior in game, even though toxicity is toxicity, then you're just adding fuel to the wildfire already going on.

Now if someone accuses you of something, then just say "I didn't do any of that, but sure." Then leave.

Defending yourself or others when you're/they're innocent doesn't get you banned.

underdose11 votes

This is a bullshit answer. Some people love video games and love the competitive side of it. I see you probably just play normals where you can mess around a little more. But when you have trolls in ranked games all of your steps don’t work at all. Reporting a player doesn’t do anything. You can’t report someone for feeding if they “don’t mean to feed” or if someone is getting caught out every single time they get killed and lose you the game. On top of that most people can afk halfway through a game and still not get ban.

Ban Lee I Int1 votes

{quoted}

Problem: You get tilted.summoner 3

Solution: Focus summoner 13, keep everything Zen (or is that keep everything Shen ?) - and simply don't tilt.

Method: Ignore, Mute, Report, Move On. And be as silent as Sona. Saying anything to toxic players is like Trump poking Kim Jong-un - it just makes things worse.

Result: Feel better summoner 7. And no more tilt.

Life's too short to get frustrated over league. Most humans will deal with imbecility and frustration in their daily life from all these sources: bosses, co-workers, spouses, relatives, children, clergy, work, school, etc. You can mute toxic players. It's harder to mute a toxic boss or an angry spouse.

I suggest you play Ivern. He's like an SSRI or an anti-anxiety drug for summoners.

idk i don't think ivern helps my blood pressure when i hover a champ and everyone else on my team proceeds to hover it after.

e46 Fanatic5 votes

It is what it is. The internet is just a place being overran by little kids with anger issues and it has become one LAME place.

Barcid2 votes

[{quoted}](name=ßoats and Hoes,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NjqFd029,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-12-27T02:12:23.302+0000)

It is what it is. The internet is just a place being overran by little kids with anger issues and it has become one LAME place.

What do you mean "has become"?

It's been a lame ass place since its dawn. Anonymity breeds "bravery".

e46 Fanatic1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Toxic Control,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NjqFd029,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-12-27T03:10:44.003+0000)

What do you mean "has become"?

It's been a lame ass place since its dawn. Anonymity breeds "bravery".

Sorry, allow me to correct myself.... It has become more lame than it once was.

Barcid1 votes

That's closer. Carry on.

Modi2 votes

It's not even correct to use quotes around the word. It breeds cowardice, people who hide behind their anonymity like a security blankie.

zPOOPz1 votes

Technically the quotes make it sarcasm. I think the quotes and the word are correctly used.

You are so "helpful" this game...

Brotha4 votes

{quoted}

This tilted me so fucking hard. I literally had to use my emergency key - the one that deactivates my enter key - so I wouldn't explode into a fucking angry tirade at him.

I straight up imagined some fat neckbeard typing this up. He screams into his monitor slapping his greasy cheeto stained fingers across his keyboard in a fit of rage. The neckbeard begins sweating profusely as his face turns a tomato shade of red, and zits begin to spurt sickly yellow ooze down his face before realization strikes him. "No", he whispers to the dark musky room as he repeatedly strikes the backspace key. This monstrous man child swiftly unbinds his enter key lest the rage of a thousand lost ranked games causes him to say something he may come to regret. After all.. his League of Legends account is all he truly has in this world.

Total Eclipse2 votes

A) This is hilarious B) Fuck you, the guy typing has a truly good point, which can be summarized as Riot doesnt take enough actions on our reports.

Falkentyne3 votes

{quoted}

I straight up imagined some fat neckbeard typing this up. He screams into his monitor slapping his greasy cheeto stained fingers across his keyboard in a fit of rage. The neckbeard begins sweating profusely as his face turns a tomato shade of red, and zits begin to spurt sickly yellow ooze down his face before realization strikes him. "No", he whispers to the dark musky room as he repeatedly strikes the backspace key. This monstrous man child swiftly unbinds his enter key lest the rage of a thousand lost ranked games causes him to say something he may come to regret. After all.. his League of Legends account is all he truly has in this world.

You are one twisted, evil, satanic, demented soul. You must be fun at parties. And have a lot of friends. Creep.

Lover Lips3 votes

And this is the non thought of reality of league. It actually benefits the toxic players more than the non toxic players. That's how sad it is.

TheChillPill1 votes

Preach!!! [sg-soraka]

Modi3 votes

Why the fuck should regular players who are perfectly fine have to accommodate toxic players, to coddle them so that they don't ruin our games? How fucked up is that shit?

You don't. You ignore them (mute), handle them in an appropriate manner (report), and not let it get to you (move on).

Strilter2 votes

Muting doesn't give the guy 15-20 minutes of his life back, his lp, or another chance to play a game without trolls once again to recover from the shitty game he has 0 control over forming...

Modi1 votes

Does flaming back give you those things either? No, no it does not. Now, if following proper procedure yields a more positive (aka less negative) result for you, compared to the possibility for punishment when flaming, which is the better option?

TheChillPill1 votes

I completely agree. This system encourages a passive attitude towards harassment and that is not healthy in real life nor online.

EdgyPeanutbutter3 votes

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XanaxTyler3 votes

weren't you the one crying that you got a 14 day ban on another forum

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Total Eclipse2 votes

This deserves more upvotes, it's all too true. Thank you for writing it out. I truly hope Riot can step up the reports analysis.

Best Vi Earth1 votes

one thing you have to learn is you can TP but you dont have to keep doing it. remember you can cancel it at the last second. thats what we call TP PRESSURE. you have to learn this to be a effective top laner.

HalcyonDweller2 votes

OP made it clear they were in the middle of a fight. You can't TP while in the middle of fighting the opponent and their jungler.

Best Vi Earth1 votes

thats not necessarily true i mean if your full on engaged then yeah you cant but if your trying to flee you and blow flash early to try to get them just to stop happy with a flash down.but i guess that is a perfect world

THE 4 HORSEMAN1 votes

just permaban this guy Riot and u got rid of 1 toxic trash here evidence all his f*** words......[zombie-brand-clap]

Strilter1 votes

I mean you kick someone enough they're gonna bite... or punch, take your pick.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Sucks even worse when you respond with one insult and stop. Then they continue insulting you with the same language over and over. You get banned for one insult and they don't get banned for many of the same insults. Even worse when you have no history of toxicity on a 6 year old account.

Time to retire this stupid system because it is not working on any side of the spectrum.

BaronBoots1 votes

{quoted}

League is a toxic game.

At least in my experience, every two games, at least one person is toxic on my side or theirs, either having tirades of cussing, going afk, or any number of fucked up things.

And you know what? I'm used to that. As sad as it is, I'm used to that in my ranked experience, and I just take it as it comes. Every twenty reports or so, one might even come up as successful, and I take some pleasure in that, but it's this sad stockholm syndrome that it's become normalized to see this behavior in my games.

But today, I met something that made me angry. Apoplectically angry. As usual, someone was being toxic. We had traded top turret for bot turret (each side took two kills; our bot, their top/jung) and the support starting calling me a fucking retard and saying he'll go afk because I didn't TP bot lane at 25% health in full view of them to dissuade bot's push while I was in the middle of a fight to take top tower.

But that's not what tilted me, oh no. Because there is something much, much rarer than mere toxic players. It's when perfectly fine players have to fucking bend over backwards to accommodate these fucking childish pieces of shit.

After it became clear that our support wasn't going to do anything, our midlaner switched tactics. He started insulting me, criticizing my play, even though we both knew that I was playing perfectly fucking fine, and eventually he said something along the lines of "he's a fucking idiot, he doesn't know what he's talking about, I'll honor you if we win this game." (Not an exact quote.)

This tilted me so fucking hard. I literally had to use my emergency key - the one that deactivates my enter key - so I wouldn't explode into a fucking angry tirade at him. And the worst part is, I understand our midlaner's thought process. Fuck, I've used similar ones before, though not as drastic - appealing to the toxic player, telling him it'll be okay, he's fine.

It's fucked up. Now that I think about it outside of my competitive haze to win, the mere idea makes me unbelievably fucking angry, enough to waste ten minutes writing up a shitty pointless post on the internet. I was doing this. I was sucking up to these wastes of humanity. Why the fuck should regular players who are perfectly fine have to accommodate toxic players, to coddle them so that they don't ruin our games? How fucked up is that shit? Putting up with their shit is one thing, but fucking REWARDING them for being fucking pieces of shit on the internet? I can deal with toxic players that go unpunished despite their reports. I can't fucking deal with having to kiss their fucking shoes just so they would fucking play the game and not ruin it for everyone else!

Jesus fucking christ, I'm going to get wasted now.

The problem is, you only have to expect these things to happen, and you always have the choice to leave, but you shouldn't be pushed out because of some toxic players. The only solution i can think of is improving the punishment for toxic behaviour.[sg-janna]

TheChillPill1 votes

See, you'd think one would have the choice to leave - the least one could have, right? But no, cause if we leave we will be the ones getting punished.

TheChillPill1 votes

If it helps, I just lost a game as adc with a Kata ''support'' who left bot lane for top, jg was afk and I had 0 help the entire game. On top of that, she threatened to report me for my build (which has most votes on Mobafire) while telling everyone how she was sleepy and had to go to bed so we had to surrender (not that I did not vote ''yes'' - it was the sane thing to do. But of course, there was the occasonal 1 douchebag voting ''no'').

There is nothing you can do about it but report and keep telling yourself that Riot gives a ****.

I sympathize with you and hope you have better experiences in the future. :( Amumu

Lord of Math1 votes

I usually have a blast with toxic people and laugh my ass off. Like when I was Ryze and the enemy team had a Warwick Ezreal Janna Kayn and the former three called Ryze an Easy champion when I called out their champs being easy when they said easy after fights. I was cackling like the super villain. However there are times when it is too much I agree.

ghosthunter5231 votes

/muteall

HeyBigGuyHeyBudd1 votes

Just mute all of them and play.

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