one thing i'd wish riot would change about the surrender thing

Squidwards House·Aug 20, 2017·1 votes·408 views

make it so you MUST press yes or no or you dont count. i usually dont surrender but ppl like to do it. i have it moved out of my screen as much as possible so that all i see is the "no" button. but it still annoys me when someone doesnt vote and that stupid thing is there for 60 seconds or so. if 3 ppl press yes and the other 2 just dont do anything. its a surrender. its 3 vs 0. its a surrender. this way i dare to say ppl will vote and i dont have to deal with this shitty window on my screen for 60 sec.

edit: or just remove the window after i made my choice. no reason to keep seing it.

10 Comments

EndlessSorcererAug 20, 20175 votes

If you abstain from voting, you aren't agreeing to a surrender.

However, I believe that the surrender window should disappear after you have made your vote.

It's just a needless obstruction and distraction.

Squidwards HouseAug 20, 20171 votes

you dont disagree either. imagine usa only has 10 ppl. and these 10 have to vote for (to not have political shit i just make up names)

derdare. or 2. kniffeltee

now 4 vote for derdare. and the other 6 dont go vote at all. does derdare lose now? does kniffeltee win? no. derdare still wins. cause he got 4 out of 4 votes.

EndlessSorcererAug 20, 20174 votes

That is a different situation.

Riot requires 70% of the team agree with the surrender before it passes.

If a player has abstained, they haven't agreed to surrender.

Squidwards HouseAug 20, 20171 votes

to me its kinda the same. its the same with picking a champ. pick one or get kicked out.

EndlessSorcererAug 20, 20173 votes

What I meant was that the votes are looking for two different things.

In the example you provided (i.e. election), they are looking to identify which party receives the majority of the votes. One party could win 2-1 even though only 30% of the population voted.

Riot's surrender vote is looking to identify if at least 70% of the players involved agree with the decision. Even if the vote is 3-1, they are still under the required threshold and the vote fails.

Basically, Riot isn't using a majority vote; they are looking to see if a specific threshold of the players agree to surrender.

Squidwards HouseAug 20, 20171 votes

my point is just the window is fucking annoying. when i was over at a friends place, his adc died and surrendert even tho they were still in the teamfight and my friend is such an idiot he had the surrender window almost in the middle of the screen. i just see the no button, and it still annoys the hell outta me. every lane is winning but 1 guy in your team isnt... he will spam surrender every 3min at min 15. and i have to see this window for 60 sec cause some ppl dont press yes/no.

EndlessSorcererAug 20, 20171 votes

Which is would support hiding the window immediately after a player votes Yes or No.

TrulyBlandAug 20, 20172 votes

this way i dare to say ppl will vote and i dont have to deal with this shitty window on my screen for 60 sec.

That shitty window on the screen is a huge part of the reason why a lot of people don't vote, in the first place because they shift it off screen. When you have somebody on your team literally starting surrender votes whenever they come of "cooldown" that window can become a distraction and sometimes even massively screw up fights (imagine trying to click somewhere and just before you click the window pops up).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not entirely disagreeing with your idea (I still believe you should always require a majority of yes-votes; but 3-0 and 3-1 should pass), but before they do that, they need to make the voting window less intrusive. There have been plenty of good ideas on the forums to achieve that, but Riot sadly never picked up on them.

FaieAug 20, 20171 votes

No, because I hate seeing the surrender window. It reminds me that my teammates don't think we can win, and my morale is higher when I just pull it off the screen. Then I can focus on the gameplay without being reminded by the 0-10 that we're losing.