Is There An Honor Lvl 0 Bug?

Shayem··4 votes·7,732 views

Good day,

I currently am Honor Level 0 and have been for quite some time. I went and counted and have played over 120 games since this honor reduction due to a 25 game chat restriction. Since then have had no further violations. I do not recall seeing the system pop up telling me I've unlocked honor again, which I believe I read somewhere that this must occur before you actually start gaining honor, and until then it's just a time period of it being locked. However, I do leave my client up when I'm not around and thought maybe I had missed the pop up, since I feel that by now I should be able to be climbing out of this sewer.

Is there currently a bug where you can not leave honor lvl 0?

Thanks to anybody with information - I'm just curious about my situation.

41 Comments

RiotRiot Tantram23 votes

No, there is no bug. You must exhibit sportsmanship in those games, and not have questionable behavior.

You frequently insult your teammates. Not enough to be penalized, but you're not going to gain honor progress while calling your teammates dipshits.

Telephone Booth2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MA7EiEEa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-11-08T22:53:03.027+0000)

No, there is no bug. You must exhibit sportsmanship in those games, and not have questionable behavior.

You frequently insult your teammates. Not enough to be penalized, but you're not going to gain honor progress while calling your teammates dipshits.

Lol I love Tantram posts.

Grimspeake2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MA7EiEEa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-11-08T22:53:03.027+0000)

No, there is no bug. You must exhibit sportsmanship in those games, and not have questionable behavior.

You frequently insult your teammates. Not enough to be penalized, but you're not going to gain honor progress while calling your teammates dipshits.

Savage lol

RunningDownMid1 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=riot+tantram This rioter is literally one of the worst players of league lol and keeps judging "toxic" players that just tell trolls that they're fucking pathetic

Vermonster2 votes

Weird. I got an account perma banned for telling my teammate "you suck" every time he purposely fed kills. His account is still active because I check every now and then. But "you suck" ohhhhh that was enough for a perma-ban. lmao, okay Riot

RiotRiot Tantram13 votes

It was most likely related to the 6 14 previous penalties you had, and the 30 other lines of harassing chat .. no tso much the single line of 'you suck'.

zPOOPz4 votes

summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11

selective memory is a prevalent problem on this board

Escheton2 votes
Absolute Horizon2 votes

Shaco ?

Vermonster2 votes

Reads the entire chat log, definitely doesn't do anything about the teammate who was purposely trolling and assisting the enemy team who I was talking to. It is Riots policy after all to punish those being trolled for responding and letting those who troll purposefully get away with it. Because telling somebody they suck in chat is worse than trolling a game and your teammate and ruining the gameplay. Is league supposed to be focused on the game or the chat I wonder?

zPOOPz1 votes

Is league supposed to be focused on the game or the chat I wonder?

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and the 30 other lines of harassing chat

sweet irony

[sg-miss-fortune]

RiotRiot Tantram7 votes

Because telling somebody they suck in chat is worse than trolling a game

No, the problem is you think that someone having a poor game is trolling. You also think it's ok to harass people having a poor game or not doing exactly what you think is right. I've seen your numerous logs and penalties. No, you didn't have trolls.

There is no way you can tell me that you've never had a poor game. Do you think people should be free to harass you with impunity in this case?

Vermonster3 votes

Lmfao. Are you serious? You read the logs and yet you don't think that kid was trolling. He admitted he was purposely bailing out to get me killed and he admitted he was spam pinging. He purposely walked under their fucking turret as an adc and auto attacked it 3 times feeding a kill. I may have been toxic to that %%%%, but the fact you think he was "having a poor game" is pathetic. To prove the point I have gotten a smurf account to lvl 23 only trolling. Lvl 23. No bans. No chat restrictions. Nothing. 23 levels of purposeful feeding. ulting people with bard so the enemy could surround them. spam pinging. taking smite as a bard support and smiting all of my junglers camps away from him.

Not. One. Ban. You're bad at your job and your banning system is flawed. All you have to do to troll is not blatantly say "I am trolling" to get away with it. Don't be toxic in chat and you can ruin the game for 9 people at a time and Riot will take your side when they report you and you report them because "they were toxic". I actually get little congratulations from your system in game saying players were punished. Literally, what happened to my account I've had since 2010. Game got super toxic, I talked back to the assholes and got a bunch of chat restrictions and bans for doing so. It must suck to be the man in charge of the punishment software and know that you literally work all week to do nothing useful huh? Banning the wrong accounts because toxicity in the chat is considered worse that toxicity in the game.

And to answer your question, yes. Let people rage. Who cares, its an in-game chat. Your policy seems to be if somebody is toxic mute them, since that's what I was told in my ticket when your own employee acknowledged that I was being trolled by players and said that I should have just muted them. You have a system that is a mix between coddling a bunch of pussies who cant take a negative in-game chat and allowing trolls to ruin the game. I was told I should have "changed my behavior" if I didn't want this account banned. I did so. I stopped being negative in chat and started ruining games instead. Because on this account I never purposely fed, trolled my teammates, or anything like that. But boom, banned. And on one of my new accounts all I do is troll my teammates and purposely feed and harrass them but avoid the chat and Riot seems to have no problem with it.

My issue is you ignore the harassment that actually impedes game play in order to coddle a bunch of cry babies who cant take somebody saying they suck in the chat. And yea, I do have bad games. The difference is when I did I never purposely ruined the game for everybody else on my team because of it. And thanks to this being one of the most toxic games out there, yes I too am harassed by at least half my team any time I make a mistake like not warding and going in for trades when it comes out bad.

But enjoy your job bud. Doing an outstanding job policing the chat logs for any negative messages. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Edit: I've actually come up with some really cleaver ways to troll my teammates. Exploring ways to ruin the game with these terrible new runes currently.

General Esdeath 1 votes

"haha I'm gonna try to anger people and half of them won't care because new runes and preseason"

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you waste your time over petty anger.

RunningDownMid3 votes

i respect u buddy. R UCK F I O T

HalcyonDweller2 votes

lol of course you would. because you are upset at Riot anyone who agrees with you is automatically a hero in your eyes.

Tantram made his points. Quite validly actually. So get over it.

RunningDownMid3 votes

everybody higher than silver is upset at riot. so i assume you're a fucking trash bronze/silver that is just a whiteknight to the trash low gold rioter lol

HalcyonDweller2 votes

I'm unranked actually. I only play ranked when my friends insist on it.

Nice job attacking me to try to discredit me. Very valid arguing. Next time make sure to call me unranked. I'm sure that will help your case. /s

And as far as experience goes, my normals MMR is quite high because I've been playing this game for 7 years. Can you say that you have a similar level of experience?

RunningDownMid1 votes

no and thank god i didn't need 7 years to get challenger only 2 years

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Congrats on making challenger.

You should learn some humility though. Treating others like they as people are beneath you simply for having a lower score in a videogame is not going to help you convince anyone to believe or respect you when you argue.

RunningDownMid3 votes

i'm not arguing, im stating facts

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Maybe, maybe not. But why should anybody listen to you or believe you if you act like a loudmouth brat? Note, I'm saying you are "acting like" one, not that you are one.

This is a lot like crying wolf or saying the sky is falling. If you irritate everyone around you by behaving poorly then people will not listen to you regardless of whether your words are truthful or not.

My point is that if you act superior and treat others like they are beneath you, you will not hold their respect and they will not care what you have to say.

Vermonster2 votes

{quoted}

Maybe, maybe not. But why should anybody listen to you or believe you if you act like a loudmouth brat? Note, I'm saying you are "acting like" one, not that you are one.

This is a lot like crying wolf or saying the sky is falling. If you irritate everyone around you by behaving poorly then people will not listen to you regardless of whether your words are truthful or not.

My point is that if you act superior and treat others like they are beneath you, you will not hold their respect and they will not care what you have to say.

So don't act like Riot. lmao

RunningDownMid3 votes

how are riot employees can judge if people are trolling or not i mean ur literally a troll and i would flame u in my games lol ur literally gold 5 49% for 4 seasons. riot should employ people over d1+ not under.

RiotRiot Tantram7 votes

how are riot employees can judge if people are trolling or not i mean ur literally a troll and i would flame u in my games lol ur literally gold 5 49% for 4 seasons.

It's almost like I don't play on this account and only get it to Gold 5 every season for the rewards :-p.

This is how are judge I people trolling. Troll maybe understand not you do.

riot should employ people over d1+ not under.

I feel like there may be other criteria for an engineering job.

Daze Clover1 votes

riot tantram are u planning on giving fiora the ryze treatment

Daze Clover1 votes

definition of ryze treatment is not looking at a low win rate champ for a season or longer

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

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definition of ryze treatment is not looking at a low win rate champ for a season or longer

Ryze has had a rework every year for at least 4 years running... THAT is the ryze treatment.

RiotRiot Tantram4 votes

I don't do anything with the Champions. That's a better question for the Gameplay section of the boards.

Daze Clover1 votes

thx for the respond

Daze Clover1 votes

If you wanna say "Yes I hope fiora get a major ryze treatment" don't respond

if that is not what you want to say then respond

Absolute Horizon1 votes

Is there any way to actually check what your honor progress is? I feel as though that would be useful for everyone to know not just those of use with crappy honor ratings because of our unbridled anger. Haha

Chermorg1 votes

There are no known bugs that I am aware of. Most people seem to unlock the honor within a week or two of active playing. If that has not been the case for you, then one of two things is happening:

  1. You aren't playing as actively as some other players.

  2. You're getting reported at a just barely sub-punishment level - i.e. your behavior has improved slightly but you are still being validly reported in games.

Shayem1 votes

{quoted}

There are no known bugs that I am aware of. Most people seem to unlock the honor within a week or two of active playing. If that has not been the case for you, then one of two things is happening:

  1. You aren't playing as actively as some other players.

  2. You're getting reported at a just barely sub-punishment level - i.e. your behavior has improved slightly but you are still being validly reported in games.

I haven't been able to find anywhere that really confirms that report theory? I've just seen a couple people post it. I know I've been reported a couple times, but usually falsely being reported for 'intentional feeding' when I have a bad game. I just mute people now instead of defending myself or others like I used to. I don't recall/shouldn't have any "valid" reports that I'm aware of since I rarely type anymore.

Chermorg1 votes

{quoted}

While your honor is currently unlocked and you are progressing at the normal rate, there are still a few instances where you've toed the line towards being toxic. While you haven't gotten punished for anything you've said so far, some of these things can still affect your honor. Hit up our Player Behavior team in a ticket and they'll be able to go over your logs to show where some improvement could be made.

False reports don't count, but as this says if you're being validly reported for toeing the line and/or not frequently enough, you may not be punished but it can affect your honor. Below is another quote from a Rioter who answered them a while back confirming thi..

{quoted}

  • Penalties are the only things that will drop your honor level. A toxic premade all falsely reporting you will not affect your honor level in any way. However, keep in mind, our systems are watching for good behavior on the whole for players to increase in level. If you're flaming and being negative towards your team (but not toxic enough to get punished), you might not drop in honor level, but you probably won't climb fast either.
Grimspeake1 votes

{quoted}

False reports don't count, but as this says if you're being validly reported for toeing the line and/or not frequently enough, you may not be punished but it can affect your honor. Below is another quote from a Rioter who answered them a while back confirming thi..

So this is why im hardstuck honor 4. Guess i need to stop calling people braindead and this entire time i just thought it was cuz i dont honor people very often :(

Misdirect1 votes

I also was level 0 after a 2 week ban about 2 months ago. I hit level 1 the other day. I also play a lot, and have made great efforts to either not talk, or not be toxic.

YoureAllMuted1 votes

You have to play either 500 games with no 4+ reports, or you have to wait 9 months.

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