Permanently banned for this lol

Can I Sup Plz··2 votes·609 views

So I'm trying to climb out of Silver. Last night I managed to reach my S1 Promotion to Gold by the grace of the league gods and of course won the first 2 then lost the last 3 games. (After a 9 game win streak, mind you. All verifiable by op.gg or lolking or whatever tracks match-history.) It definitely seems like promotions are rigged. I 100% believe you are either A. put with team mates with much lower MMR than you for your promotion or B. put against opponents with much higher MMR than you for your promotion. I can literally go on ridiculous win streaks and as soon as I hit promotions fail them miserably. Every time. Someone dies 3 times and rage quits. Someone goes 2/10 and decides to just sit in the base and talk. So every one of my promotions takes 2-3 maybe 4 tries before I can actually get the 1 damn victory it takes to promote due to getting a free one after failing.

Anyway, after botching my s1 promotion with major class, I lost all the way down to around 40 LP for different reasons. Mostly because I had 2 games with a nunu top (same person I believe) who fed and ran around the map spamming laugh and feasting on peoples cannon minions in lane. I had another couple games where I played Nami and I had a duo named Cypherrrr and Coralbeuty flaming me for no particular reason other than they felt like it. You get the idea.

So im frustrated already, I get off last night to cool off and I get on today. First game of the day. Low and behold as soon as I make 1 mistake Im getting flamed by lucian. we make a play bot lane and kill the support and the adc has to go back. I went up river to drop a ward on the enemies blue buff and she (sejuani) happened to be there. Well apparently they saw me coming because the fed zed from mid was already coming down to meet me and I end up dying. Lucian starts with his trash. So I defend myself against lucian because he is being ridiculous and then vlad starts defending lucian. So now I have 2 people ganging up on me because I tried to place a ward. Then Vi chimes in and shes like "I cant believe no one is flaming the 0/7 lol" So im already tilted and while watching her make dumb mistake after dumb mistake and camille disconnect after dying in a 1v3 Im just like I hope she doesnt come back so we can ff because this games obviously over. Vi is inting and blaming it on "having a bad game". I don't believe running into 3 enemies and ulting the tank and dying counts as a bad game that counts as inting. She knowingly runs to her death then says "wow idk whats happening i usually have godlike kda on vi but this game im doing so bad" so I tell her in the future when you are already 0/8 perhaps itd be best not to rush a triforce. In comes vlad "wow nami you're an asshole stop flaming you're so fkn toxic omfg" Vi: "yea stop flaming me idk why you cant be constructive" Lucian: "Nami idk why you're talking youre useless you missed your bubble you arent doing anything just shut up" so I got all 3 of them ganging up on me and then I start to defend myself by telling vlad he is the one being toxic because hes cursing at me and definitely not being calm yet telling me to calm down. Vi is acting as if shes so innocent and such a lovely great person but shes obviously inting in-game and everyone knew it but they were having too much fun attacking me because I was the only one with a decent KDA on the entire damn team. Because I stayed out of the way of certain death and did my best to help my team survive bad engagements they called me useless because I ran to survive. So after all that, and telling Vi to not play Vi anymore and play an easier jungler, they all 3 or even 4 report me in the post-game lobby and now i'm permanently banned. Yet they're all playing another game just flaming and cursing and feeding to their hearts content.

I can honestly say I made every attempt to reform after my first penalties for SIMILAR INSTANCES OF THIS SAME THING. I turned off all-chat to limit the potential flamers/flamees to 4 instead of 9. I mute people often, most of the time the entire team which should be verifiable with some chat logs from me typing /mute all. I have even done my part in reporting people MUCH WORSE than anything I have ever said and have received at least 10-15 "A player you reported has been penalized" messages.

So I would just like to know why the 3 people that gangbang flamed me are still playing right now and I am the one that has to type this ridiculous wall of text out of frustration and unfairness? Why in real life do we tell people to stand up to bullies but in League its frowned upon to stand up to them? and even punished? I have been banned from the game FOREVER because I was bullied by not 1 not 2 but 3 of my own team mates for all 3 different reasons. It just doesnt seem fair at all.

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YerroFever2 votes

Post chatlogs from your permaban if you want feedback on what you said.

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Game 1 Can I Sup Plz: so much single target lol *Lucian flames me for going to ward river, getting ambushed causing him to heal me because I was ignited. Can I Sup Plz: umm Can I Sup Plz: i didnt tell you to waste anything Can I Sup Plz: but ok i wont ward in the future. Can I Sup Plz: kek Can I Sup Plz: nice meme

*Fiesta fight all over dragon pit when theres no dragon, I only have tier 2 of spellthief's edge and a ruby crystal Can I Sup Plz: i dont have the mana regen for those kinds of fights yet

*get omega chain cc'd by rakan ult+W, Sejuani stun + zed ult and ignite

Can I Sup Plz: wtf Can I Sup Plz: i couldnt do anything Can I Sup Plz: or cast anything *Lucian says something like "Idiot, sej has a charm" Can I Sup Plz: no she doesnt Can I Sup Plz: i literally landed and couldnt move or cast *Lucian says "Why were you even over there idiot" Can I Sup Plz: deep wards cause we are smashing them? Can I Sup Plz: called map pressure *Lucian says something else about me being bad or useless Can I Sup Plz: sorry im trying to get vision lol Can I Sup Plz: you shouldnt tunnel on minions when tower is already down Can I Sup Plz: rotate to other parts of the map

*Que vlad, something along the lines of "why are you here go back bot" again, we have already taken bot tower and I roamed to help him kill zed and pressure mid tower, but zed was fed and killed me.

Can I Sup Plz: vlad Can I Sup Plz: he was baiting you away from his ult clone so he could go back Can I Sup Plz: i was going to bubble his clone and you kept chasing him Can I Sup Plz: its whatever

*Few minutes later 3 of the 5 of us get obliterated because they try to hide behind a wall that fed zed had just placed a ward behind, that I pinged.

Can I Sup Plz: lol Can I Sup Plz: you all walked right on top the ward zed just put over that wall. Can I Sup Plz: wasting so much time fighting over nothing.. Can I Sup Plz: losing tower

*Vlad cursing at me, Lucian with the assist

Can I Sup Plz: lol enjoy your report friend. Can I Sup Plz: go play aram if you just wanna run around mid shooting people. Can I Sup Plz: we have no wave clear and no team fight Can I Sup Plz: ima get zzrot i guess

*Que VI "Wonder why no one is flaming the 0/8 lol"

Can I Sup Plz: pretty sure you're inting Can I Sup Plz: tell you one tip that will help in the future Can I Sup Plz: if you are 0/8 dont keep building tri force Can I Sup Plz: and there it is *Camille runs in 1v3, dies, disconnects. Reconnects right as the nexus goes down Can I Sup Plz: hopefully not Can I Sup Plz: then we can ff Can I Sup Plz: i feel bad for the next set of people to have you as their jungler honestly Can I Sup Plz: at least dont pick a jungler you arent good with next time Can I Sup Plz: this is ranked people want to win

*Vlad: "Why are you such a huge asshole calm down wtf"

Can I Sup Plz: im calm lol Can I Sup Plz: vi is one of the most op junglers, and she's 1/12

*Vlad: "You're so fkn toxic omfg"

Can I Sup Plz: not really Can I Sup Plz: you're the one cursing and saying omfg Can I Sup Plz: you need to calm down

*Vlad: "except i didnt say any of that"

Can I Sup Plz: you literally just did Can I Sup Plz: but ok lol Can I Sup Plz: one word about your poor plays Can I Sup Plz: and im flaming

*Vi: "dont you just love this toxic community xD"

Can I Sup Plz: dont you just love dying 15 times? Can I Sup Plz: i especially like how you often ult sejuani in 1v3s Can I Sup Plz: but thats none of my business right Can I Sup Plz: just one game Can I Sup Plz: you're godlike every other game

*Because earlier she mentioned she always does well on vi and has a "godlike" kda but this game she didnt.

Can I Sup Plz: im calm lol

Game 2 *troll nunu, flaming nunu&tryn

*Adc is shooting minions at enemy tower while i'm trying to protect a pink ward

Can I Sup Plz: why are you shooting minions Can I Sup Plz: zzz Can I Sup Plz: whatever

*Nunu trolls bot a bit

Can I Sup Plz: i swear to god

*Nunu says hes reporting me for not helping him kill himself

Can I Sup Plz: reporting you too Can I Sup Plz: why did you do blue while we did dragon?

*Nunu flaming me

Can I Sup Plz: nice Can I Sup Plz: enjoy your ban :D Can I Sup Plz: 4 people chasing me nbd Can I Sup Plz: no point in grouping 3v5 Can I Sup Plz: tryn sits top and nunu isnt doing anything with the team Can I Sup Plz: not toxic its the truth

*Que Tryn, flaming me saying im useless and not helping anyone

Can I Sup Plz: you arent helping, tryn Can I Sup Plz: regardless of your score

*Tryn and nunu saying things like dont ever support again, worst nami ive ever played with, etc

Can I Sup Plz: idc Can I Sup Plz: ill take the loss ima win my next game Can I Sup Plz: ok Can I Sup Plz: thanks for the advice

Game 3 *Ashe that is literally only autoing minions for the entire first half of the game. Can I Sup Plz: oh hey Can I Sup Plz: <# Can I Sup Plz: ,# Can I Sup Plz: ffs Can I Sup Plz: <3 Can I Sup Plz: hello

*Adc is standing still auto attacking every minion wave until she gets to enemy tower, backs off to our tower to wait for next wave

*I get engaged on while shes shooting minions and she doesn't shoot the enemy even once.

Can I Sup Plz: wanna join me in this 2v1 or nah? Can I Sup Plz: ok lol Can I Sup Plz: you're afk shooting minions Can I Sup Plz: i see now Can I Sup Plz: no need to afk autoing minions either Can I Sup Plz: just go watch netflix Can I Sup Plz: you've missed at least 15 Can I Sup Plz: you only get gold if you last hit Can I Sup Plz: watch a youtube video on lane pase Can I Sup Plz: phase Can I Sup Plz: its more than just autoing minions Can I Sup Plz: lol Can I Sup Plz: im reporting ashe Can I Sup Plz: ashe is afk lol Can I Sup Plz: its not toxic Can I Sup Plz: you just sit there autoing minions Can I Sup Plz: havent done anything else since the game started Can I Sup Plz: ok have fun

*Ashe sarcastically says something like "well sorry im not challenger I cant get every minion"

Can I Sup Plz: im not challenger either Can I Sup Plz: but i dont afk in lane Can I Sup Plz: sitting there autoing minions Can I Sup Plz: he teleported to lane Can I Sup Plz: oh well Can I Sup Plz: drag for 4 kills and tower Can I Sup Plz: we got collapsed on from both sides Can I Sup Plz: push a lane Can I Sup Plz: jinx ult down Can I Sup Plz: lol Can I Sup Plz: sad

*Kennen is standing in mid lane tanking tower shots spamming dance emote

Can I Sup Plz: kennen you having fun? Can I Sup Plz: lol Can I Sup Plz: team Can I Sup Plz: sigh Can I Sup Plz: free kill Can I Sup Plz: sad lol Can I Sup Plz: chasing instead of doing baron Can I Sup Plz: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

*I genuinely say gg to sejuani because she was the only one actually trying to do anything.

Can I Sup Plz: gg sej Can I Sup Plz: zzz

ModThe Djinn3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Can I Sup Plz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=M69ZYbdR,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-09-01T20:20:52.924+0000) Can I Sup Plz: but ok i wont ward in the future. Can I Sup Plz: wasting so much time fighting over nothing.. Can I Sup Plz: losing tower Can I Sup Plz: lol enjoy your report friend. Can I Sup Plz: tell you one tip that will help in the future Can I Sup Plz: if you are 0/8 dont keep building tri force Can I Sup Plz: i feel bad for the next set of people to have you as their jungler honestly Can I Sup Plz: at least dont pick a jungler you arent good with next time Can I Sup Plz: dont you just love dying 15 times? Can I Sup Plz: i especially like how you often ult sejuani in 1v3s Can I Sup Plz: but thats none of my business right Can I Sup Plz: reporting you too Can I Sup Plz: enjoy your ban :D Can I Sup Plz: 4 people chasing me nbd Can I Sup Plz: tryn sits top and nunu isnt doing anything with the team Can I Sup Plz: not toxic its the truth Can I Sup Plz: you arent helping, tryn Can I Sup Plz: regardless of your score Can I Sup Plz: no need to afk autoing minions either Can I Sup Plz: just go watch netflix Can I Sup Plz: you've missed at least 15 Can I Sup Plz: you only get gold if you last hit Can I Sup Plz: watch a youtube video on lane pase Can I Sup Plz: phase Can I Sup Plz: its more than just autoing minions Can I Sup Plz: lol Can I Sup Plz: im reporting ashe Can I Sup Plz: ashe is afk lol Can I Sup Plz: you just sit there autoing minions Can I Sup Plz: havent done anything else since the game started Can I Sup Plz: ok have fun Can I Sup Plz: im not challenger either Can I Sup Plz: but i dont afk in lane Can I Sup Plz: sitting there autoing minions Can I Sup Plz: sad Can I Sup Plz: free kill Can I Sup Plz: sad lol Can I Sup Plz: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Can I Sup Plz: zzz

So...

I get that you are frustrated. But this takes acknowledging frustrated to the point of grinding it repeatedly in the faces of other players. Most of your chat log is discussion how you're reporting people, or talking about their poor play. That's not defending yourself, nor is it friendly behavior.

If you had recently been punished, this would well push you over. It's borderline harassment and excessive negativity -- I get that the game was frustrating, but silence or even just LESS BORDERLINE HARASSMENT was a possibility. A handful of these lines might have slipped by. An entire chat log of it will not.

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

It wouldnt make me look like such a tool if you could see their chat as well... but it doesnt make it right either way. I wouldnt have anything to say about poor play if it was like... accidental poor play and not intentional poor play. People do stupid shit on purpose and it really makes me mad because I don't understand the thought process of people like that. I guess im one of the main targets for trolls because I let it get to me. I even go as far as to let them know they are getting to me which, it seems, makes them troll me even harder. I just dont think I deserved a permanent ban....

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Can I Sup Plz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=M69ZYbdR,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-01T20:38:19.166+0000)It wouldnt make me look like such a tool if you could see their chat as well

I expect you would come off equally badly, frankly -- they just might come off badly as well. When nothing is physically at stake for you and the solution is as simple as the mute button, it's hard to justify engaging back.

I guess im one of the main targets for trolls because I let it get to me. I even go as far as to let them know they are getting to me which, it seems, makes them troll me even harder.

This is definitely, and unfortunately, true.

I just dont think I deserved a permanent ban....

The thing here is that, while it seems unfair, the ban system does have multiple warnings for that reason -- to let people who might be in your situation know that something is wrong, and that they have to find ways to deal with these problem situations that work for them. Once you get to the final warning and haven't worked out a method, there isn't much more Riot can do save implement their final method of reducing toxicity -- removing the toxic players. :(

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Fuck it. time to find a new game.

Xidphel1 votes

Have fun being banned from that game.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

if you flamed you deserve the ban, riot does not care nor do other people care about how your game is going if you had a bot lane running it down mid and you were at all toxic you deserve the ban regardless of what happened in game.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

still send in a ticket to riot if you think its unjust they will tell you why you got banned

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

So maybe it shouldn't be up to the players to decide who gets penalized and who doesnt? It's not like I was just fuckin in there being a dick for no reason those people were treating me like shit for nothing.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

when someone reports you you get flagged, its a Boolean it only takes 1, any number above 1 does not matter as only 1 report triggers a review, ultimatly riot found something bad and banned you for it, when you get a 14 day ban you are on one of the tightest leashes ever

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Ok I also reported them how come they weren't permanently banned?

Riot found me defending myself and calling people out for clearly breaking the summoners code. I had a game where I supported an ashe who literally walked down lane constantly attacking minions regardless of if she got last hits or not until she got to the enemy tower, then walked back to our tower to wait for minions to come. She did this for like the first 10-15 minutes of the game until both our bot towers were gone and she was like 0/6 or 1/7 im not sure. So because I ask her to do something other than sit there shooting minions I get reported? Because I rushed mobis and roamed and ultimately got top and mid ahead and secured herald and 2 dragons I get reported and penalized? I refused to sit in lane with an AFK ashe and I was flamed for not helping/protecting her when she clearly didnt have any interest in winning.

In the second of the 3 games mentioned on my "you are permanently banned" prompt in game I had a nunu that was definitely feeding on purpose, trolling every laner by running into lane, ice balling the enemy if he could then consuming their cannon minion, spamming laugh and running off. He constantly ignored fights happing around objectives to do jungle camps or ult minion waves while his entire team died. So because I pointed out that he was trolling I get reported and banned forever? because I noticed he was being a complete clown and called him out on it I get banned forever? Lol Riots system is flawed.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

riot will not tell you if they get banned. you only get messages if the automated system gave a chat restriction to a person

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Either way this shit is ridiculous. In any competitive scene tensions rise words are exchanged and not always nice ones. I'm not trying to justify being toxic but where the fuck does riot draw the line? What is acceptable? If I'm getting flamed by 3 people am I really supposed to just ignore them and report them hoping it triggers a review and they get banned? That looks easy on paper but its fuckin difficult in the moment.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

idk man, i have been flamed+inted in games and i have not been banned, prob because i dont really care because they will get banned eventually

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Well Riot cant realistically expect everyone to be so passive when MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of people play this game. I for one am not passive in any competition. Not League, not 2k17, not Chess, hell not even tic-tac-toe. I like to win it feels good and most people would agree. If someone is intentionally sabatoging my fun which is the sole reason for playing this game it pisses me off and I unfortunately let that anger get the best of me but not to the extreme of warranting a permanent ban.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

true, you do have me there

Nova Thresh1 votes

AMEN FUCK THIS RIOT SHIT

YerroFever1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Can I Sup Plz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=M69ZYbdR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-01T19:36:31.331+0000)

So maybe it shouldn't be up to the players to decide who gets penalized and who doesnt? It's not like I was just fuckin in there being a dick for no reason those people were treating me like shit for nothing.

It's not up to the players on who gets to decide on punishments. The Tribunal was decommissioned years ago.

LightningShado1 votes

/muteall

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

I do use /muteall often but this time I didnt because I felt like I needed to let them know that they were being completely ridiculous. That was my mistake but its not a mistake that deserves being banned forever. I literally just started playing the damn game like a couple months ago and Ive dropped like 100 bucks on boosts to level fast and buy all my supports/champs required for ranked (the 20 champ limit)

Also there was nothing to justify using /muteall OTHER than saving a ban because the game was already over. Usually I /mute all to prevent tilt and try to win but I was already tilted and the game was unwinnable.

LightningShado1 votes

Still, silence is nice even if your already tilted. /muteall and listen to some nice relaxing music. That usually gets me out of tilt.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Can I Sup Plz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=M69ZYbdR,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-01T19:29:44.221+0000)It definitely seems like promotions are rigged. I 100% believe you are either A. put with team mates with much lower MMR than you for your promotion or B. put against opponents with much higher MMR than you for your promotion.

There would be absolutely no reason for promotions to be rigged in any way, shape, or form. As League has no pay-to-win mechanics there is no benefit to Riot in frustrating a player base through rigged games.

So I would just like to know why the 3 people that gangbang flamed me are still playing right now and I am the one that has to type this ridiculous wall of text out of frustration and unfairness?

Likely because your punishment history is different from theirs.

The system works based on escalation, and does not always immediately punish. If you were permanently banned then chances are good you worked your way up to the 14-day ban level -- a level their accounts may not be at yet. We really can't say more about their accounts other than that if you did report them they have an extra strike against them, so they may get their punishment soon.

Why in real life do we tell people to stand up to bullies but in League its frowned upon to stand up to them?

It is not frowned upon to stand up to bullies -- it is frowned upon to reengage with toxicity. Saying "Rumble -- stop picking on our jungler. He's trying his best, as we all should be. Sometimes people just have off games. Drop it." is standing up to a bully. Saying "Vlad, shut up. You're doing as bad as he is, scrub" is needlessly antagonistic.

Without seeing your chat logs I can't provide more detailed feedback, but if you provide them I would be happy to do so.

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

I understand exactly what you're saying and most of my chat was definitely needlessly antagonistic. Ill admit it. However, these guys were all bullying me. Its different when you're the target instead of trying to defend someone else. Its infuriating.

The chat is above also.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Can I Sup Plz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=M69ZYbdR,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-09-01T20:28:47.213+0000)

I understand exactly what you're saying and most of my chat was definitely needlessly antagonistic. Ill admit it. However, these guys were all bullying me. Its different when you're the target instead of trying to defend someone else. Its infuriating.

I get that, but I've also been in your situation -- the same approach can be used when it's you being harassed. Bullying back tends to simply lead to more bullying.

The chat is above also.

Commented on it already. :)

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

dude play ranked at the same time every day like if its 5pm to 7pm that you get good players and are winning then play around those times and avoid the times when you lose. theres always college drunks and highschool sneak a game pre bed players around at certain times. make a league schedule.

my duo and i do 12 am till 3 am for league then we play other games till 6 am

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Kinda late now. Im banned forever :) That's a good idea, though. Wish I had learned of it sooner.

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

can i sup plz is banned you are not banned you can make a Gamer gmail for gameing only (i did that it helps with junk) and make a new profile. think of it as a rebirth to the moba land and this time you can climb again. without having to go through the assassin meta again and by time oyu get to lv 15 the new season will be out and all runes will be unlocked. that's the cup half full with what ever you wanna fill it with.

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Thats a cup all the way empty with the 100 bucks and weeks I spent leveling WITH and AGAINST bots in dumb ass agonizing blind pick games.

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

840 for me lol my friend spent 2000 and got banned 3 times (he actually is now not toxic) if you want add me ill do some normals in blind with ya im a support main. dont give up not all of this community is bad there are groups, some on discord and i recommend not getting skins untill you get mast 7 on champ

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Im also a support main, lol. I wont be making another account any time soon I dont have the willpower to start over. Thanks though I appreciate it.

YerroFever1 votes

Unfortunately you take your frustrations on your teammates and you kind of take part in f the harassment war. One person says something to annoy you and then you respond back to with your opinion of how they play. It escalates and then you cut back and say you're not flaming and you're reporting them and then it builds up again. You keep poking and prodding.

You're essentially just telling them what you feel about them and it sound like you're trying to make them feel bad about themselves instead of being constructive and advancing the game and helping your teammates.

At least... that's the problem I see.

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

I dont care how they feel about themselves. If I went 1/15 I would already feel bad about myself one for performing so poorly and 2 for ruining the game for my team, I wouldn't need anyone to make me feel bad about myself. All I do is state the blatantly obvious. They walk over wards and die. They completely ignore pings. They disregard any rules of engagement in lane or in team fights.

Like how does an ADC make it to silver 1 by walking down lane autoing minions like a beginner bot? If youre doing that then you clearly aren't trying to win.

It is most definitely not an opinion. I only make observations.

Vlad chased zed who had ulted towards our tower, and continued running towards our tower. OBVIOUSLY he was luring us away from his ult shadow so he could return and live. I pinged the ult shadow while walking towards it to prepare a bubble, Vlad continued chasing him to the tower, so I used what mana I had left to heal vlad so he didnt die to zed and zed returned to his ultimate shadow, Q'd me and ignited me and I died. Then Vlad flamed me for being in his lane.

I merely reacted with exactly what just happened. Nothing more, nothing less.

I see Vi running into 2-3 people, Ulting sej, blue smite her, then die. She HAD to know she was going to die. So she is inting. She intentionally went into an uneven fight knowing she would die. That's like the very definition of inting.

I don't say how I feel about someones play, I point out what they do, how they do it. I'm not good at the game by any means, hell I only made it to silver 1 before getting permanently banned. However I was so interested in learning and getting better that I watched these long ass tutorial playlists on youtube.. I searched top plays and top players builds and itemization techniques and I was serious about becoming good at the game. It seems there aren't many people at least in lower divisions that even care about being good they just play to be able to tell their friends "yea i play league of legends"

YerroFever1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Can I Sup Plz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=M69ZYbdR,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-09-01T21:04:06.830+0000)

I dont care how they feel about themselves. If I went 1/15 I would already feel bad about myself one for performing so poorly and 2 for ruining the game for my team, I wouldn't need anyone to make me feel bad about myself. All I do is state the blatantly obvious. They walk over wards and die. They completely ignore pings. They disregard any rules of engagement in lane or in team fights.

Like how does an ADC make it to silver 1 by walking down lane autoing minions like a beginner bot? If youre doing that then you clearly aren't trying to win.

It is most definitely not an opinion. I only make observations.

Vlad chased zed who had ulted towards our tower, and continued running towards our tower. OBVIOUSLY he was luring us away from his ult shadow so he could return and live. I pinged the ult shadow while walking towards it to prepare a bubble, Vlad continued chasing him to the tower, so I used what mana I had left to heal vlad so he didnt die to zed and zed returned to his ultimate shadow, Q'd me and ignited me and I died. Then Vlad flamed me for being in his lane.

I merely reacted with exactly what just happened. Nothing more, nothing less.

I see Vi running into 2-3 people, Ulting sej, blue smite her, then die. She HAD to know she was going to die. So she is inting. She intentionally went into an uneven fight knowing she would die. That's like the very definition of inting.

I don't say how I feel about someones play, I point out what they do, how they do it. I'm not good at the game by any means, hell I only made it to silver 1 before getting permanently banned. However I was so interested in learning and getting better that I watched these long ass tutorial playlists on youtube.. I searched top plays and top players builds and itemization techniques and I was serious about becoming good at the game. It seems there aren't many people at least in lower divisions that even care about being good they just play to be able to tell their friends "yea i play league of legends"

You are telling them how you feel by pointing out every single thing you think they did wrong. Context matters.

You may call it "making observations" but what's the intent behind everything you say? Not everyone is stupid. People can understand what you say and why you say it.

As an example, I don't see you asking people to help you deep ward so you don't get killed, you are just condescending to your teammate about how deep wards work.

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

Only after they condescend to me about "why were you there, idiot" like.. they know why I was there.

Also, its not something I think they did wrong it it something they actually did wrong. Like it is an actual mistake not something I think was a mistake but really wasnt.

I cant put chat logs for other games but I have plenty of games where I am not this person you see in the chat logs. I encourage team mates I try to be positive and uplifting, to team mates who deserve it. Not to assholes. I play maybe 8-12 games a day and maybe 2-3 of them contain people like this. MOST OFTEN WHEN IM IN A PROMOTION HINT HINT RIGGED

YerroFever1 votes

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Only after they condescend to me about "why were you there, idiot" like.. they know why I was there.

There's no point in retaliating because it just makes things worse. Why throw gasoline on a fire?

Also, its not something I think they did wrong it it something they actually did wrong. Like it is an actual mistake not something I think was a mistake but really wasnt.

There's constructive criticism and then there's your approach. You can say things like "Nice try at stealing dragon, but maybe next time we can all try together to steal dragon. Our chances will be higher if we work together on it"

I cant put chat logs for other games but I have plenty of games where I am not this person you see in the chat logs. I encourage team mates I try to be positive and uplifting, to team mates who deserve it. Not to assholes. I play maybe 8-12 games a day and maybe 2-3 of them contain people like this. MOST OFTEN WHEN IM IN A PROMOTION HINT HINT RIGGED

Honestly, promo games are fucking horrible compared to the just plain horrible that is ranked. Everyone is peaking at a higher stress level because there's kind of more on line than just playing ranked outside of promos. You go up or down a level with that, whether it's numbers within a bracket or going to a whole new bracket. People's emotions flare more often and it's just overall a tense situation to be in. It doesn't help if multiple people are going at each other.

Can I Sup Plz1 votes

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There's no point in retaliating because it just makes things worse. Why throw gasoline on a fire?

There's also no point in them starting shit in the first place. Yet they do it, and I get punished. ???

There's constructive criticism and then there's your approach. You can say things like "Nice try at stealing dragon, but maybe next time we can all try together to steal dragon. Our chances will be higher if we work together on it"

I understand. However, half the time I don that kind of attitude people still jump down my fuckin' throat "Stop actin like you are master tier lol this is silver you dont know everything about the game" "who made you team captain lul" So your hypothetical situations, while they make sense on paper, aren't really applicable in most silver games.

Honestly, promo games are fucking horrible compared to the just plain horrible that is ranked. Everyone is peaking at a higher stress level because there's kind of more on line than just playing ranked outside of promos. You go up or down a level with that, whether it's numbers within a bracket or going to a whole new bracket. People's emotions flare more often and it's just overall a tense situation to be in. It doesn't help if multiple people are going at each other.

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