Empty logs. I gave you empty logs, in other words: I suggested you just don't type at all. Since you have such trouble identifying what is positive and what is negative, that seems like a good approach.
You funnily enough in another thread gave me a screenshot of a Rioter saying exactly that not typing in chat will not get you punished.
I have provided the threads where empty logs does nothing to keep players from being punished. So again, saying nothing will not help me... Im sorry.
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/sU5wOfFJ-proof-that-the-automated-system-is-broken
Here's another one with another person saying they said nothing and got punished. A rioter said they got punished for an action performed, not their words. So as I've said before: Saying nothing will not keep you from being punished. So saying nothing is pointless.
Seriously? YOU were the one who claimed people get banned for not chatting. I called them "bogus", in other words: Made up.
Indeed, I have said that people were banned even though they said nothing. I never said that they were banned BECAUSE they said nothing. If you could find where I said this, I will correct this. Otherwise, my stance remains that saying nothing will not help you in preventing you from being banned.
And you're also commiting the same logical fallacy as always: The commmunity isn't superior to the summoner's code.
If this was the case, why is Riot letting me get away with my current behavior then? They know very well that my behavior has only gotten worse since this all started 14 months ago. It's been fairly consitantly toxic for the past 6-7 months now and they've pulled up my logs showing this. So it's not like they are unaware of this.
If you don't break teh summoner's code and everybody reports you, you're still fine. What gets you in trouble is breaking the summoner's code as well as the standards the community sets.
As I've shown several times in the past, my current behavior breaks every aspect of the summoners code. However, because the community accepts this behavior, it's considered acceptable because it fits within the "community standards". So in otherwords: Community standards>Summoners code.
Not minding something enough to report for it and "wanting" something is a difference. Other than that, exactly. It's okay in the community's eye, so Riot doesn't enforce the summoner's code. That doesn't mean Riot enforces community standards. It just means it enforces the summoner's code in the context of the community standards.
Not minding a behavior means it's an acceptable behavior. This is established by not reporting someone for their behavior. In this aspect and how Riot applies it, there is no difference in not minding it and wanting it.
It's okay in the community's eye, so Riot doesn't enforce the summoner's code.
This statement by itself is the basis of the majority of my arguement. Because Riot is selective of when they decide to enforce their own rules, there's no point in following them. If they only time they enforce them is when someone is reported for months on end, then toxicity will remain in the game. Players like me and even worse than me will continue to exist and ruin players games. It should be decided when it's convenient with Riot. Theyr'e the ones who established the rules to play in this playground that is LoL. They should enforce it whenever it is broken BECAUSE its the rules they said we should follow to play here.
It just means it enforces the summoner's code in the context of the community standards.
So in other words, the community standards>summoners code.
Im saying that the summoners code should take precidence to the community standards on the grounds that it's the only thing written down. Not the other way around where the community standards is written nowhere.
You didn't say "decent sized", and I provided you with a chat log where Riot specifically said that it is okay.
You are correct, I did not say decent sized previously. However, because you had no intention of providing a log other than a blank one, I had to elaborate what I needed. You have to understand, I need something to show me what correct is. If saying nothing is what right is, then noone should say anything in any game. Thus why I had to elaborate that there needs to be a "decent" sized log provided. I would like to be able to say SOMETHING in a game. Everyone does. Im fairly sure you do as well.
That being said, with the tone you've given, I belive it is safe to assume that you are part of the 95% playerbase that have never been punsihed for whatever reason. if you would like to be helpful, would you be willing to provide a log from your own personal games that Riot can write off as you saying absolutely nothing wrong in? If so, this would be all that I would need to begin my actual reformation. Thank you if you can do so.
I must have missed the log you have provided where Riot said it was ok. If you could please provide it again, it would be appreciated. If it was that blank log you specified before, then Im sorry. I cannot use that to reform my behavior since it would require me to say nothing. I like to talk to people unlike yourself as you've demonstrated in providing a blank statement. So if you could provide something with actual words in it, it would be appreciated. Thank you.
The rest of your post is just you being a broken record again, repeating stuff you've already said, like how community standards trump the summoner's code, which, as pointed out, is simply false.
Please show it is false, and I will agree with you if it is not arguable.
As well as, of course, your moving goal-post fallacy, where all of a sudden you want a decent sized log with Riot-approved messages... which btw, will never exist, because context always matters. This is language we're talking about, it shifts, it changes. What is acceptable today might be a slur in a year.
So your arguement here is that even if someone where to only say "GG" it would be considered a bannable offense because of the "Context" it could be percieved to be? So in otherwords, that blank statement could NEVER be considered acceptable because the context of saying nothing matters? So in otherwords: Saying nothing may be "acceptable today, but might be a slur in a year"? This is why I need something concrete. I need to know what is considered acceptable NO MATTER WHAT CONTEXT IT IS SAID IN. If your argument here is that no matter what is said, it can be considered unacceptable, then no matter what anyone does they will always be considered offensive no matter what they say. Even if they say nothing.
