my account was banned for accusations of using in game cheats, i have never in my life since playing this game since 2012 ever heard this bs i never cheat in this game and don't know how to. it doesn't make sense and if u say i was cheating where is the proof?
ShinkoMinori8 votesYour name is Aizen and you want pity?
lordaizen56 votesbruh im serious like this is bullshit
ShmokeYahBag7 votesReported this dude account seriously got banned and you making jokes.
lordaizen55 votesthe thing is i havent and my friends who i play with on a daily know me personally even friends on facebook know i dont cheat i even let one of them check my computer and i dont have any thing other than teamspeak curse google and league and steam and i dont even use that its too big on my computer
ModPeriscope4 votesTheir cheating/hacking detection is apparently pretty accurate, and usually done in waves. There gave been errors in the past, though. Write a support ticket if you want them to take a closer look.
lordaizen56 votesi did and im waiting
Sukishoo5 votesThen just wait, cause there's little to nothing that will come to you from the forums about this.
lordaizen55 votesi spent way too much money into my account and to be accused of something i dont even know how to do
Sukishoo4 votesWell too bad Riot doesn't care how much money one spends as all assets are still theirs and we are just "borrowing" them.
lordaizen57 votesim a paying customer if i want a refund they got to give me that no matter what they try to pull
Sukishoo5 votesNope. They really don't. If you read the Terms of Use on the game it clearly says exactly what I previously said. Thus anything "purchased" is just being "borrowed". Plus you agree to this every time a new patch comes out, which is what those pop-ups clearly say as well.
So they will look at the account in time, they don't have to get to it immediately nor will they give you anything back should the ban stand. We are all treated exactly the same here.
ModThe Djinn3 votesNope. They really don't. If you read the Terms of Use on the game it clearly says exactly what I previously said. Thus anything "purchased" is just being "borrowed". Plus you agree to this every time a new patch comes out, which is what those pop-ups clearly say as well.
To clarify for the OP -- it's not QUITE borrowing. It's purchasing the right to use content while on Riot's servers. They can, however, revoke your right to access that content OR access those servers, resulting in a loss of all access to the product in question.
lordaizen55 votesthanks for the info
Telephone Booth1 votesim a paying customer if i want a refund they got to give me that no matter what they try to pull
No not really man. The law is not your strong suit, methinks.
ModPeriscope5 votesOk. Hopefully this works out better than trying to take over Soul Society!
Chembaron Yamada1 votesNice one. xD
OnlyYouCanHearMe3 votesPeriscope is right, the cheating/hack detection that Riot uses is very good. They do not discuss the methods they employ, mainly because they don't want to risk tipping off the cheaters/hackers to how they are being caught. I find it a bit unusual that you were banned for "in game cheats" and not for the use of a "malicious third party program." Did you modify your client in any way? Even if it was something as minor sounding as changing the resolution of your game to one outside of the normal allotted choices? Re-write keybindings in the code for the game? Program a series of keystrokes onto a single hotkey?
While there are many players who do actively cheat at League, and who end up caught and banned for it, there are also a decent amount who are "ignorant cheaters." They may be running a program that is not allowed, or have done something to their system, but they are completely unawares that it is bannable. Unfortunately for them, their ignorance does not save them from the consequences of breaking the rules, and it can make it extremely hard for us to try and help them figure out why they were punished in the first place.
lordaizen56 votesi did not change a thing on my client and for me being banned for in game cheats? how is this possible? and my friends who i play with on a daily said it not possible. they been to my house and played with me so they know of bat this isnt right
OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votesHmm, in that case, I hope that Support will be able to assist you. They should get back to you relatively quickly; most replies come within 24 hours depending on how many tickets they have open at the time, Best of luck in the future, and I hope you are able to get your account back quickly.
lordaizen56 votesthey emailed me back they said my ban is permanent and they refuse to tell when or how i so called used in game cheats
OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votesHave you ever allowed anyone else to use your account? If so, it's possible that they were the one that used a cheat on your account.
While this may not be something that you want to hear, if you are not lying about cheating, then it's probably very likely that you were in fact a part of the "ignorant cheater" group that I mentioned. And unfortunately, no, Support will not be able to tell you the exact way in which they discovered the cheating associated with your account if it was some sort of program. If they did, the the developers of the cheats/hacks would simply be able to change them to make them harder to detect.
lordaizen51 votesi never have let anyone play on my stuff but earlier after i put up this forum someone else had posted he got banned for the same thing and one my friends was banned today for the same thing
OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votesI won't repeat everything here, since I already commented above, but basically these sorts of bans come in waves. That's why so many people were banned around this same time.
lordaizen51 votesthat's not right and i know for a fact if you're basing it on codes sometimes codes can be messed up i have never used anything other that curse discord and teamspeak if u count those three that even ur pro players use then i don't know what to say
Chembaron Yamada3 votesMaybe you can present us the exact mail you got for your ban. And you say you don't cheat and if so where is the proof..... usually they have pretty good proof for that. Like if you are executing commands with the exact same time interval over a game. That can be measured pretty well and there is no way a person without cheating programs is achieving that naturally.
lordaizen54 votesthe thing is my friends who i play with almost every day said it crazy and not even possible they been to my house and played with me so they know
e46 Fanatic3 votesMan I hate it for you if this was a wrong doing, but I've been playing since 2k11 and I don't recall ever seeing Riot make mistakes when detecting cheats. Lesson learned if you used anything, even something as simple as a script to show how far you can shoot your auto attack will get you a perma. Plenty of games out there have GREAT anti-cheat systems that almost immediately detects altered or added scripts. It usually will take several days after the cheating occurred for them to hit you with the ban in case you thought you went undetected.
lordaizen51 votesthing is i havent cheated at all in anyone of my games have u read the full post?
e46 Fanatic2 votesYessir, but pretty much everyone pulls the I didn't cheat card and considering how rare it is for false flags to go around, it is hard to believe anyone. Especially with how common and easy scripts are to come by right now. I'm sure you see where I'm coming from. I'm not saying you're guilty, but I am doubtful. No need to reply unless necessary, I wasn't coming at you all hot or nothin.
lordaizen51 votesi have evidence that proves my innocence riot honestly made a mistake and i'm not the only one suffering from the same issue there is a guy u put up another post about getting banned for the same thing i got and it's not just me and him 171 other people got banned for the same reason in the last 3 days even tho riot said the did a extensive investigation i don't believe they did and if they did where is the actual evidence that proves my guilt? and the fact over a hundred people getting banned for the same thing is crazy
e46 Fanatic1 votesWell, sorry for your loss, I'd be pretty upset if I lost my account. I'm thinking that it wouldn't be possible for that many errors to happen within that amount of time. Simply just sounds impossible for the detection system to flag people for no reason at all. The way I see it, I'm going by your word that you weren't, but most those people were more than likely buying XP boosts and using afk scripts to boost their account or even using simple scripts.
The chances of someone downloading a free script simply by Googling for it majorly overwhelm the chances of those errors actually occurring.
lordaizen51 votesi just paid them a week ago to get my account unban for a chargeback now why in the hell would i jeopardize my account using in game cheats? and its not just me facing this problem i was on the forums earlier and seen posts about the same thing so its not just me
e46 Fanatic1 votesI've never heard of Riot taking bribes lol to unban you if thats exactly what you mean. I've already considered one reason why people would still do it while not wanting to jeopardize their account and it's because they typically think getting reported is the only cause of cheat bans, so if they be discreet they think they're fine. No, the client so easily detects altered/added scripts. They have things in place to track those things down, trust me, I once built a couple scripts for runescape botting years back (lol) and learned in very short time that you're gonna go down. Along with almost any anti-cheat games out there work this same way. For those of you that might be reading this, now you know lol. Anyways, I think that's all I can say :D I'll repeat, I am not accusing you of cheating. Only explaining my reasons for doubting you. My opinion shouldn't mean much to you, so don't let me come across as a butt hole.
lordaizen51 votesit was a chargeback and i had to pay them to get my account back and the fact i got banned while streaming is making me upset is it possible that the new client and/ or riot got a faulty code in it? i was on the forums earlier and saw that over 170 people got banned for the same reason in the last two days. i really dont think its me and the claim that i cheated if other people are reporting the same thing
OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votesThe reason that over 170 people were banned for the same thing is because Riot bans for cheats, hacks, third party programs, and basically any sort of ToS violation involving gameplay in waves. It makes it harder for the hackers/cheaters/programmers to figure out exactly when Riot caught them, so that it's harder for them to know exactly how Riot caught them.
Given the recent things that happened with Xerath, it's not surprising at all that there was a cheating ban wave. They probably lumped those cheats in with a few others that they had been working on, and rolled all the bans out at once. These sorts of bans do NOT have to happen right when they are caught. It can happen weeks, probably even months after it's detected.
And after months of posting here on the Boards, I can tell you... there are always going to be people posting saying "I didn't do it." Some of the sad, sad stories we get about how players weren't toxic, and never said anything at all in chat are just heartbreaking. Until one of the Reds comes in and drops the real logs and shows just how much they were lying. Which is why most of us now view things with a smidgen of skepticism, and look for the evidence.
If you have actual evidence that proves you haven't cheated in any way, we'd be more than happy to look at it, but I have to be honest with you. Someone who is your personal friend, looking at your computer and saying that you don't have a cheat on there is not evidence. Most teens and young adults (which makes up the majority of the playerbase) would consider it their duty as a friend to stand up for their friend and try to have them exonerated, even if it meant lying. And because there is so much potential for falsity in statements, we tend to look at the objective facts.
lordaizen51 votesi got a stranger who is my teacher at durham tech who works in the IT department to look at my computer and he said my files other than patch updates have not been altered in anyway i got this computer on august 15 2016 i downloaded league around that same thing and for another thing dont assume im a teenager im 23
lordaizen51 votesand if need be i can fly all the way out to cali to prove my point take my little old laptop and sit it on the desk of brandon beck if i have too
lordaizen51 votesand if my chargeback which riot put on my account is the reason behind all of this sueing may be a option at this point i paid back money i didnt spend to get my account back only for it to get banned a few days later something is not clicking right
lordaizen51 voteshttps://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#search/league+of+legends/15b91aa0772d7b3b thats the link to my email with that chargeback
lordaizen51 voteshttps://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#search/league+of+legends/15b66fc51a65eb74 this one is me reaching out saying about my problem
OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votesWhile he can go through and look to see when the League files were last modified, or even the history of updates to them, that's only one of the ways that players cheat at League. To the best of my knowledge, not all of the third party programs have to re-write League files, and it would be impossible for your teacher to have checked for all of the 3pp, simply because there isn't a standardized list of prohibited programs. These cheats can be things as complicated as scripts to help a player dodge skillshots, or as simple as a mouse/keyboard macro to combine abilities/attacks. Which is why I have said since the beginning, that many players end up banned for doing things that they did not realize was against the ToS.
and for another thing dont assume im a teenager im 23
I didn't make any assumptions about your age. Without referring to any person in particular, I stated that the majority of the playerbase was composed of teens and young adults, which is true. Had I been referring to you specifically, it still would have been true, as 23 is a young adult.
That being said, I can understand that you are frustrated right now, but being snippy with those of us who are trying to help you figure out precisely why you were banned, and trying to help you understand why you aren't getting anywhere with Support is not going to help your situation. All it will do is encourage us to go spend our time trying to help other posters on the Boards.
lordaizen51 votesi'm not being snippy and u would be mad too if you're playing on your account and out of nowhere the next day ur banned for no reason that's the only reason i came on the forums i got banned and i'm being told i exploited riot when i didnt and never have i heard about chargebacks or things like curse and teamspeak being third party when the pros use the same thing if that's the case then what is truly third party then? all i want is my account back (if i did cheat i woulda started up another account and continue what i'm being accused of but i'm not a cheater and wouldn't do that) when you got honest players being banned out the blue for outrageous reasons and getting accused for any and all reasons all i ask is that a proper investigation be conducted on my account and not a rush or from another report that says i want the truth
YerroFever2 votesHave you ever shared your account info with anyone?
YerroFever2 votesEDIT: Ugh, I hate this difference with chronological view and discussion view without quotes because it never makes sense chronologically... there needs to be a better hybrid view.
RE-EDIT: You'll never get info on how they detected the 3rd party programs because that's just a signal to the programmers of the cheat programs on how they find the cheaters. The programmers will stop using the same method to cheat because they know it'll get the players banned.
Telling someone how the program gets detected will lead to more cheaters.
lordaizen51 votesi have evidence that proves i'm innocent and witnesses that play with me at my house and across country that will say i dont cheat
YerroFever2 votesIt's easy to find people who will be willing to say their friends don't cheat just to save their friend's account. This is worthless.
Regarding other posts you've made: If you're talking about that year old other thread someone necroed (the guy who said he never cheated and let his kid play his account who did cheat and they looked at more info and the player's story seemed to match the data that was gathered and issued an apology)... Outside of the fact that he had shared his account info with someone else, which was actually a bannable offense by itself, the kid he shared his account with used scripts. He also replied to the red post and said he wasn't even upset and he was OK with the ban because he understood what happened... ie he took responsibility for sharing his account with a kid and because the kid used scripts while on his account, he owned the mistake of sharing his account with a kid who had no scruples with cheating.
This is not the situation you are describing.
You also said you had some tech guy look at your computer and they say you never had any of the third party programs? That's worth absolutely nothing.
Lets say I want to use a different media player on my computer. I can go download winamp and have that as my primary media player. Then, I can delete and uninstall winamp, delete and modify the associated residual system files, clear out the registries, and get rid of any evidence that I had ever gone to any site that I had downloaded and installed this program.
Your evidence that you claim in your subsequent comments are pretty much worthless as well.
Your best bet is to provide whatever evidence you think you have and put it in a support ticket.
lordaizen51 votesis it possible to use the videos i got in plays tv? most of them were recent
ShmokeYahBag1 votes[deleted]
ShmokeYahBag6 votesHE DOESNT CHEAT. FALSE INVESTIGATION. BULL SHIT RIOT TEAM. SHOW THE GAMES AND STOP FUCKING LYING RIOT TALKING ABOUT WE DONT NEED TO REVEAL OUR STRATS. YOUR FULL OF SHIT AND NOT GONNA STOP.
e46 Fanatic2 votesHE DOESNT CHEAT. FALSE INVESTIGATION. BULL SHIT RIOT TEAM. SHOW THE GAMES AND STOP FUCKING LYING RIOT TALKING ABOUT WE DONT NEED TO REVEAL OUR STRATS. YOUR FULL OF SHIT AND NOT GONNA STOP.
Revealing their strategic ways of detecting your cheats would obviously lead to easy bypass. I hope you're seeing that for what it is. Not commenting on the rest of your message because I already put my 2 cents in another reply.