14 Day ban

Hellzrazor··1 votes·570 views

For some reason i got banned for 14 days without prior penalties in the last month and in the examples they give when reporting you they also used 2 games from over a month and a half ago as evidence, How is that even fair.

Pretty sure they are doing the whole guilty before proven innocent thing and it aint cool

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NiamhNyx3 votes

have you been chat restricted at all?

Hellzrazor1 votes

I have 17 days ago for i think 22 games, where they used 1 of the games i spoke of in my fist post

NiamhNyx3 votes

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I have 17 days ago for i think 22 games, where they used 1 of the games i spoke of in my fist post

Thats why its a 14 day ban then. you dont get the same tier two times unless you go like over a year with out a punishment. Just a heads up, next one will be a perma ban, no matter how small the infraction.

Hellzrazor

Well im glad this crappy systems is solving the real problems... not

ModPeriscope7 votes

The system escalates. If you don't reform, then you get a harsher punishment next.

Hellzrazor1 votes

And who says what "reform" is The crappy systems does is what, when it should be who

ModPeriscope1 votes

In short, the player base.

The IFS is based on feedback by players. Data from the tribunal as well as feedback from players on the boards helps inform the IFS.

If you want feedback about your chat, then feel free to post them, although you could also write a support ticket.

Hellzrazor1 votes

Yea sure ill post my one sided chat that is in teenager texting format taken out of context, or talk to support who also read that one sided chat taken out of context cause thats a good way to judge if someone was being toxic... Sarcasm.

Fegone3 votes

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Yea sure ill post my one sided chat that is in teenager texting format taken out of context, or talk to support who also read that one sided chat taken out of context cause thats a good way to judge if someone was being toxic... Sarcasm.

See, here's the deal: The chat is NEVER out of context. If you're writing toxic stuff, it doesn't matter what the other people write. The only thing that matters is what YOU write. And the fact that you're not understanding that this is how it works, and how it should work, just shows everyone that you clearly are at fault and deserve the ban. I'm willing to bet $100 that with this attitude, you'll be permabanned a week after coming off the 2 week ban. Because you don't seem to understand, and hence won't change your behavior.

Hellzrazor1 votes

You don't understand that there are people like yourself in games that manipulate others to get the desired behavior from them which I'm sure you think I'm doing are the actual toxic players in this game and then report others when they say what you manipulated them into saying by messing with a humans emotions.

I would put my 100$ that you are the lowkey problem with this community

Hellzrazor1 votes

Just as you posted that insult above it is not always easy to hold yourself back from saying things they that may or may not hurt others when certain emotions are invovled. I do believe that was an insult, can i report you for that? would you feel good for getting banned for that?

Chermorg6 votes

There's no insults there.

Your problem here stems from the fact you are trying to blame your toxicity on others, not on yourself. You are the one who sent the messages, you are at fault, nobody else. If you did not have the self control to not be toxic, that is your fault, nobody else.

Hellzrazor1 votes

Wait so I'm in a lose lose situation either don't communicate with the baiters/trolls and be reported for greifing/trolling or tell them off and be reported for telling them off. And people like myself are the issue for somereason. I understand how you people think now. Thanks

For the record i never once blamed anyone or for anything i myself said, I honestly consider you toxic for even assuming that.

And that comment Fegone gave was in fact pointlessly toxic and insulting.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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Wait so I'm in a lose lose situation either don't communicate with the baiters/trolls and be reported for greifing/trolling or tell them off and be reported for telling them off. And people like myself are the issue for somereason. I understand how you people think now. Thanks

For the record i never once blamed anyone or for anything i myself said, I honestly consider you toxic for even assuming that.

And that comment Fegone gave was in fact pointlessly toxic and insulting.

Ahh that's where all your confusion lies, I think. You see, just because people report you, does not mean it's a valid report. They will review every report and check the validity. It's super hard to get a troll punished too, so if you get reported for trolling/griefing, and you weren't trolling, you will be 100% safe. It is ALWAYS required that you just not respond to baiters. Theres a reason for the saying "dont feed the trolls". I suppose you could consider that a lose lose, but I do not to think of it that way. Someone insulting you online and you not responding is not you losing imo. It's you ignoring an obvious asshole, and on top of that, you get to report the asshole and rest assured that you did nothing wrong and your account is completely safe. I hope this information helps, bud. It really is easy. I just think you didn't have a grasp on the concept of how it works.

Fegone2 votes

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Wait so I'm in a lose lose situation either don't communicate with the baiters/trolls and be reported for greifing/trolling or tell them off and be reported for telling them off. And people like myself are the issue for somereason. I understand how you people think now. Thanks

For the record i never once blamed anyone or for anything i myself said, I honestly consider you toxic for even assuming that.

And that comment Fegone gave was in fact pointlessly toxic and insulting.

It's not a lose lose situation. If someone else is toxic, mute them. You don't have to chat with them. They can report you as much as they want, you will never get punished for not using the chat at all. Ever. There are pings for all kinds of communication, and chat is not required to play the game. The fact that you're still arguing your point, and seemingly won't understand why you're at fault here is almost comical. You're a hopeless case I am afraid.. :/

Telephone Booth1 votes

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You don't understand that there are people like yourself in games that manipulate others to get the desired behavior from them which I'm sure you think I'm doing are the actual toxic players in this game and then report others when they say what you manipulated them into saying by messing with a humans emotions.

I would put my 100$ that you are the lowkey problem with this community

Meh. I think people who are easily manipulated and sensitive enough to be hurt by random insults from strangers, who then turn an insult into a whole big argument and don't drop it for the whole game, are a big part of the problem. Obviously the manipulators are the problem as well. So just play it smart, don't feed the trolls, and you'll be fine. It's pretty easy to not get banned. And no I don't manipulate people. I know it's easy to think that everyone is like you, but I don't really talk to people who are cranky. If they seem tilted, I don't say shit to em, even if they insult me. Just report em. Or mute em if you can't help but snap back at their bullshit.

Fegone1 votes

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You don't understand that there are people like yourself in games that manipulate others to get the desired behavior from them which I'm sure you think I'm doing are the actual toxic players in this game and then report others when they say what you manipulated them into saying by messing with a humans emotions.

I would put my 100$ that you are the lowkey problem with this community

And you just proved my point, thank you very much. Case Closed ;) [slayer-jinx-catface]

ModPeriscope2 votes

Context only tells us why you said what you said. If you don't feel like sharing your logs, that's fine. Support does have access to all of the chat, but yes, you're only judged by your logs, as they are your actions, and you alone are responsible for them.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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And who says what "reform" is The crappy systems does is what, when it should be who

Ummm Riot, of course. They are the creators of the game. They kinda call the shots, bud. What do you expect, God to come down and cast judgement on you?

Who Fed Ru1 votes

see ya for your perma here in a month

The Cream Reaper2 votes

and the next one after a 14 day ban will be a perma so... watch it!

Hellzrazor1 votes

People get angry when you don't type in chat and tell them everything your doing when your doing it and then turn around and get angry when you communicate and it happens to be criticism apparently makes for a good reason to get banned.

ModPrandine4 votes

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People get angry when you don't type in chat and tell them everything your doing when your doing it and then turn around and get angry when you communicate and it happens to be criticism apparently makes for a good reason to get banned.

  1. You can still use pings to communicate with players. It's obviously not as effective as chat when it comes to detailing moves but they get the job done.
  2. There's a difference between constructive and destructive criticism, and it's the latter that gets people punished. Suggesting that someone hug turret to farm minions safer is fine, but yelling at them and demanding that they do it is not fine.
  3. You only receive a punishment if you have a history of consistently poor behavior across multiple games under normal circumstances.
  4. You're not gonna get much in the way of actual help here if you don't post your entire unedited chat logs here in this thread. I will say though that since you're now on a 14-day ban any minor offense will escalate you to permaban so be careful. If it's not helpful or constructive then don't press enter.
Hellzrazor1 votes

You are one of the more helpful advisors i see, the only thing i don't understand is what are normal circumstances.

BlueThingamajig2 votes

I believe "under normal circumstances" refers to 'receiving punishments', not 'multiple games'.

As in, the system is designed to give increasingly severe punishments (10-game, 25-game, 14-day, permanent) for repeated infractions. Those are the 'normal circumstances'. It's possible to skip tiers for extreme infractions, or increase/decrease the punishment after a Rioter review. Those are unusual circumstances.

ModPrandine

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I believe "under normal circumstances" refers to 'receiving punishments', not 'multiple games'.

As in, the system is designed to give increasingly severe punishments (10-game, 25-game, 14-day, permanent) for repeated infractions. Those are the 'normal circumstances'. It's possible to skip tiers for extreme infractions, or increase/decrease the punishment after a Rioter review. Those are unusual circumstances.

You are exactly right.

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