How can I contest a behavior punishment for forum posts

fullbacks63·Jun 27, 2016·2 votes·1,316 views

I received a 7 day ban for

"I have included your post below:

This guy is silver, If he took league seriously he would understand, just ignore him.

Discussion:"

This is not ban worthy....

51 Comments

ModMod CuratorJun 27, 20165 votes

Just as in-game, suspensions aren't always issued based on severity but instead on frequency. That was your sixth removal on the same day for harassment of others. That's why you were suspended. Punishments based on removals escalate with continued posting of the same type. The 7 day punishment is the last stop on the Boards before a permanent suspension.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

That was on another account, NOT THIS ONE. Seeing as you dont even know the name of the account, I dont know how you are saying this is my 6th removal of the SAME day. Of course, because youre incapable of moderating these forums, and are too stupid to do so.

ModMod CuratorJun 27, 20163 votes

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That was on another account, NOT THIS ONE. Seeing as you dont even know the name of the account, I dont know how you are saying this is my 6th removal of the SAME day. Of course, because youre incapable of moderating these forums, and are too stupid to do so.

You made this post on this account so I looked up this account and found 6 removals in a row for the same thing on the same day with a 7 day suspension. I can look up your other account if you'd like. Just drop the account name here.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

Jetjoe

And it doesnt matter, the offense they claim which triggers the suspension was not an offense. Therefore the suspension should be removed.

ModMod CuratorJun 27, 20164 votes

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Jetjoe

And it doesnt matter, the offense they claim which triggers the suspension was not an offense. Therefore the suspension should be removed.

I checked that account as well. You had 6 removals for the same type of harassment over a three week period and had been suspended previously there as well.

Between the removals across both accounts and my explanation of what is removed as harassment here on the Boards, it should be clear this type of posting behavior isn't acceptable. Continued harassment like this will result in permanent suspensions on your Boards accounts.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

First off, as I said the trigger was not a re-portable offense. IF someone IS violating policies after suspension, yes it makes sense. But I dont have any actual re-portable offenses on the account after the ban,.

Now here is where I show you youre place. League of legends has violated its terms and conditions in its own chat by placing a ban on the account for a non reportable offense according to their own contracted terms and conditions. If you threaten to permanently ban my account, I will take your beloved company to the high court, and I will class action SUE you guys to the ground.

Yesterdays poodle hack and compromise of security is already a pretty big shit storm and an actionable cause for users to seek costs for account security damages. You should probably talk to your supervisor more about how you respond to people on this forum before you make more "big boi" moves.

ModMod CuratorJun 27, 20162 votes

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First off, as I said the trigger was not a re-portable offense. IF someone IS violating policies after suspension, yes it makes sense. But I dont have any actual re-portable offenses on the account after the ban,.

You already had removals and suspensions and returned with another harassment post. You don't get to come back after a suspension and continue the same behavior and only get a warning. You already had your warnings. You're in the suspensions phase at that point, especially considering there was no period of time showing any sense of reform from previous posting behaviors.

Now here is where I show you youre place. League of legends has violated its terms and conditions in its own chat by placing a ban on the account for a non reportable offense according to their own contracted terms and conditions. If you threaten to permanently ban my account, I will take your beloved company to the high court, and I will class action SUE you guys to the ground.

Yesterdays poodle hack and compromise of security is already a pretty big shit storm and an actionable cause for users to seek costs for account security damages. You should probably talk to your supervisor more about how you respond to people on this forum before you make more "big boi" moves.

I've already reviewed your removals and explained why they're valid. If you still want to argue that they're not, you'll need to submit a ticket to Player Support and ask them to review your removal history on both accounts.

To be clear though, we've been directed by Riot to remove that type of post as harassment.

FurriesAreHotJun 28, 20161 votes

DDoS = security hack. K

Threatin. The curator with a high court use after being banned on a video game forum? k

Nik NikersonJun 27, 20161 votes

I'd really like to know what part of Riot's own terms and conditions they violated.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

Are you a part of player support or riot staff?

Nik NikersonJun 28, 20161 votes

Why are you avoiding the question?

fullbacks63Jun 28, 20161 votes

Ask it as a question with a question mark, and answer my question first. If your answer is "NO", I dont need to let you know what part of Riot's terms they violated because youre just looking to stir another argument and probably orgasm by reporting someone.

Nik NikersonJun 28, 20161 votes

I just want to know in case it happens to me, so I know what you're doing to get out of your punishment. Why don't you want to help out?

fullbacks63Jun 28, 20161 votes

I am not stupid. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Nik NikersonJun 28, 20161 votes

Clearly I wouldn't ask advice on contract terms from an idiot.

Jo0oJun 27, 20161 votes

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Jetjoe

And it doesnt matter, the offense they claim which triggers the suspension was not an offense. Therefore the suspension should be removed.

How are you not getting this? Calling somebody out for their rank and stating that their opinion doesn't matter because you're better than them is a rude thing to say, and apparently you've been on a killing spree of toxicity today.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

I have not been on a killing spree of toxicity. As demonstrated by this wonderfully low IQ moderator who couldnt even identify from my original post it was from a different account with no toxicity since the previous ban

Jo0oJun 27, 20162 votes

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I have not been on a killing spree of toxicity. As demonstrated by this wonderfully low IQ moderator who couldnt even identify from my original post it was from a different account with no toxicity since the previous ban

What the hell is wrong with you?

jpguy902Jun 27, 20163 votes

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Of course, because youre incapable of moderating these forums, and are too stupid to do so.

Kinda understand why you were banned now.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

DO YOU NOW? Because the post I posted wasnt TOXIC. Of course though you need to get all sentimental and act like you actually know why I was banned.

jpguy902Jun 28, 20161 votes

For one I said "kinda". Also I wasn't referring to your original post, which is why I quoted. I was referring to how quickly you moved to insulting instead of having a civil conversation with someone who is pretty highly regarded on the boards.

AraMoOseJun 27, 20163 votes

Well it's a good thing you don't get to choose what is and isn't ban worthy then, huh?

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

If something like this offends you, then youre in for a rough future.

ModPrandineJun 27, 20161 votes

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If something like this offends you, then youre in for a rough future.

I feel that this from Ulanopo's Knowledge Base is appropriate here.

If you kids report and punish things like this, youre going to be in trouble when you get out in the real world.

This is a subset of the oversensitivity argument, but I feel it warrants separate treatment.

You're making the highly unwarranted assumption that the people who punish for "noob" lack real-world experiences. If you were to ask the TBI regulars, you would find that almost all of us are at least in their late 20's, if not significantly older. Most of us have at least undergraduate degrees. So, this idea that we're all naive little children is more than a little silly.

Also, we know that professional players dislike people who spend their time typing because math. Not only are the report rates for the highest tiers not significantly lower than anywhere else (this from Lyte), but the pros know how that kind of behavior affects play. Someone who is on tilt is throwing the game just as much as the person who is playing poorly.

The truth of the matter is that the loose cannons end up having their misbehavior overshadow their skill. Look at Dennis Rodman. There has never been a better rebounder. Ever. But his legacy is not that he was basically a human vacuum. No, it's that he was out of control, both on and off the court.

In short, this is a stupid argument if you know anything about the people who are reporting and punishing you.

AraMoOseJun 28, 20161 votes

Who said anything about being offended?

I'd like to see you use that argument with your boss. "This is not worthy of being fired", see how far that gets you.

fullbacks63Jun 28, 20161 votes

First of all, The analogies arent the same, And YES if someone fires you for no reason they are at risk for SERIOUS legal consequences. So grow up, hit puberty then come talk to me.

AraMoOseJun 28, 20163 votes

These are not "analogies". While the misuse of the word is not particularly relevant, it does tell us a lot about you.
Harassing a fellow employee is a perfectly good reason to fire someone
You have signed a contract with Riot (you sign it again every patch) stipulating that they CAN in fact ban you for any reason or none at all.
Just how old do you think I am anyways?
Just how old do you think You appear to be?

fullbacks63Jun 28, 20161 votes

Now, let me try to explain common sense to you.

It doesn't tell you anything about me, stop trying to be a psychologist here
This is not HARASSMENT, calling someone silver and saying ignore them is Not HARASSMENT. And if you ever do tell a... wait a minute please don't embarrass yourself by telling people it is harassment.
The contract I signed with riot is based on terms and conditions, when they state they reserve the right to ban someone at their discretion, they are required to provide a valid reason. Things like this dont fly in court. Especially when there are monetary transactions involved.
You act like youre about 12, but you never know adults are stupid too these days
I appear to be a mature adult who knows what he is talking about and actually has researched what he says before he pulls something out from butt.

AraMoOseJun 28, 20162 votes

preambule : Common sense, by definition, does not need to be explained.

It tells us that you do not know what an analogy is. It also tells us you are willing to talk about things you do not understand.
Evidently, Riot disagrees with you on that matter. I think they are correct
You should read that contract again. You are more than welcome to try to take this to court if you like. I'm sure there are plenty of attorneys who will be happy to take your money.
I turned 33 years old last tuesday. I work as an educator, as well as selling a Children's magic show and a Contact Juggling show.
You are not the judge of how you appear to others. Your opinion is by definition biased. 5a.Your claims that you research what you say are refuted by the many incorrect statements you provide. (Did you research what an analogy was? Did you research whether you actually have any legal recourse with respect to your ban?)

You are not going to win, for the simple reason that you are incorrect.

fullbacks63Jun 28, 20161 votes

Im going to ignore the first two since, you are just lying to yourself.

I have red the contract, I am a LAW student, and I KNOW what I am doing, and if you did too you would also be aware that Riot is currently being sued for multiple cases, one of them includes, manipulating their tribunal in a scheme to gain more revenue in RP. I will not explain any further although youll probably ask for more information to argue some more seeing that your job is a ....
Sales person for clowns and magicians, LOLOLOL

I cant even move onto point number 5, because point number 4 just proves Im arguing with a whackadoo.

AraMoOseJun 28, 20162 votes

How are those lawsuits coming along?
You may be misunderstanding, I am selling my own show...

Good luck with your "law studies"

ModPrandineJun 28, 20161 votes

{quoted} 4. I turned 33 years old last tuesday. I work as an educator, as well as selling a Children's magic show and a Contact Juggling show.

I know that this is probably not the best place to say it at but Happy Late Birthday nonetheless.

AraMoOseJun 28, 20161 votes

Oh thank you so much!

I still have some cake if you like. I hardly even vomited in it. And even that was not on purpose.

ModPrandineJun 28, 2016

{quoted}

Oh thank you so much!

I still have some cake if you like. I hardly even vomited in it. And even that was not on purpose.

Uh, thanks but I think I'll pass on that thank you very much ;).

Cpt Jack BirdJun 28, 20161 votes

Maybe we're just anti-toxic trolls! It doesn't offend us, but we find it really funny when people get mad about it like that, and don't mind NOT acting like that, so it's a net enjoyment gain for us to report those kinds of posts.

Or maybe we don't care, but figure the forums are just a little nicer without it. Who knows?

GodhriJun 27, 20163 votes

It's not just about being offensive. It's about the kind of environment posts like these contribute to. I think it was a reasonable ban considering you are showing consistent behavior that is consistent with behavior that creates a hostile environment. No one likes a hostile environment and that is exactly what you contributed to; according to the moderator, it was 6 times that you did this.

Bans like these show that the forum rules that are established are not just mere words or for show. They are actually enforced.

Besides, being banned 7 days from the forums, not so bad I would say. It's not like you NEED to be on the forums within those 7 days and if you did somehow "need" it, you already found a way around it. You created a new account. So just let things be as they are.

Jo0oJun 27, 20162 votes

Depends on your definition of "ban worthy". It's certainly an antagonistic thing to say.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

this isnt BAN worthy. Its not offensive, its not harassment, its not hurtful.

If the guy gets butthurt over being called silver then he should leave the league of legends community.

I didnt say GG haha you suck youre silver lololroflforlflfl. I didnt call him a noob.

The guy was trolling, I said he was silver, and if he took league seriously, he would understand what we are trying to say.

Simple as that

Kim Chi VendorJun 27, 20162 votes

You wouldn't have acted like that in a bar full of drunk football players cause you would get beat up, so you do it here? Why would the moderators accept that?

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

If someone beats you up for saying they are silver that is pathetic. people need to grow up. Btw being a football player, probably not the one to get beat up.

Kim Chi VendorJun 27, 20161 votes

There is always someone tougher than you. Your problem is that you are acting a way that you wouldn't act in front of other tough guys.

fullbacks63Jun 27, 20161 votes

Actually I would, because what I said isnt an insult. And if the tough guys get offended by something like that, its called SUING them. You cant just go around beating people up. I know the far left and all the bernie supporters think that is the case but its simply not true.

Nik NikersonJun 27, 20161 votes

......... What?

Kim Chi VendorJun 28, 20161 votes

lol, you aren't going to sue anyone when a drunken mob stomps you out and just leaves and the cops get there 25 minutes later and don't care.

You aren't being realistic, you can't act tough in the video game just like you can't act tough in a room full of drunk thugs.

fullbacks63Jun 28, 20161 votes

Okay your analogy is getting ridiculous, first of all, I pay riot, I use their service, theres a contract.

Second, Why would I be in a room filled with drunk thugs in the first place

If I called someone bronze / said they are bad, it would be in a work environment

Kim Chi VendorJun 28, 20161 votes

There are lots of environments that you absolutely would not act this way. If you were in Caracas Venezuela right now you would be making any boisterous value judgments about anyone or anything.

Case closed

MorbazanJun 27, 20161 votes

What is and isn't "Ban Worthy" is pretty much entirely up to Riot. Next time, play it safe, and maybe not say such things?

FlyingSushi809Jun 28, 20161 votes

I would think that in a game with a rating of T, with a fan base of 12 and over, doesn't need to be babied, and that Riot is just going for the cash grab, hyping up their """""""""toxic"""""""""" players, so that they will be hyped up for their return (if they ever do), is ridiculous, Riot knows that no one less immature than a 12 yr old plays their game, and that no one, except those with DIAGNOSEABLE MENTAL ILLNESS', (depression) can be hurt by words said online in a videogame, not to sound """"""""""""""""""""""""toxic"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""", but that isn't any videogame company's problem. In conclusion, Riot intentionally babies its fanbase to receive money, either by hyping the punished up to be addicted to the game,and then spending money on it, or to make them purchase what they are banned from earning for an unreasonable amount of time. While Riot tries to act like an all-loving, open arms company, they are a greedy, non-tolerant, company, doing anything they can to get more money (ex. after being bought out by an actual business with prior knowledge, Tencent, they proceed to make chroma packs, champions that aren't all white, and reworking the report system adding both 'racist" and "homophobic" to the report options, while also removing their genius system, the tribunal, hiding their Euro-centric, Na..zi companies reputation in the past, and bringing their money-focused business models to the future.

fullbacks63Jun 28, 20161 votes

I hope youre not trolling, because your above statement is on the dot true.

FlyingSushi809Jun 30, 20161 votes

No troll