The Current Tribunal

Euro Crem··1 votes·460 views

After joining the boards and trying to understand people's issues and relate them to my own current issue, I have discovered that the tribunal system is capable of banning a person with no context. They only follow a list of words or phrases that they see, and the use thereof is resulting in a ban. Some dodge the bullet the others take it. I need more opinions and would love to see a vote.

11 Comments

Timethief493 votes

Context doesn't Matter, people get punished for their behaviour not others.

Silent Gravity1 votes

The question your poll is asking has two questions.

Is the IFS automated? (yes) Is the IFS one sided? I am not certain what you mean when you say that.

Everyone is responsible for what they do.

Euro Crem1 votes

Ok. Lets say someone flames and you just return with flame. And the degree of the flame is the same. Both players report eachother, one gets a 14 day suspension the other continues to go on and flame with no punishment. "Its either all okay or none of it is"

EvilDustMan4 votes

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Ok. Lets say someone flames and you just return with flame. And the degree of the flame is the same. Both players report eachother, one gets a 14 day suspension the other continues to go on and flame with no punishment. "Its either all okay or none of it is"

You are missing another piece of the puzzle.

Everyone is on their own punishment track, independent of everyone else. When they get reported, and that report is valid, they get pushed along their track. If two people get in a fight, they might be on two different places on the track. So both get pushed along the track as their punishment for the game, and one may hit their next punishment, the other may not.

Euro Crem1 votes

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You are missing another piece of the puzzle.

Everyone is on their own punishment track, independent of everyone else. When they get reported, and that report is valid, they get pushed along their track. If two people get in a fight, they might be on two different places on the track. So both get pushed along the track as their punishment for the game, and one may hit their next punishment, the other may not.

Lets say one begins at the beginning of the track no prior offenses level 5 honor great player to play with. And the second player steals lets say the first players hat and the first player starts trying to get their hat back. Are both going to fall into the trap that the second guy set up or will the first in the pithole? And what will be considered fair in this case?

Silent Gravity1 votes

It would be easiest to just read your chat log and respond to that content directly rather than trying to work through an analogy.

Euro Crem1 votes

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It would be easiest to just read your chat log and respond to that content directly rather than trying to work through an analogy.

Oh I am not denying that my chat logs great. Yet itd be out of context. To you context may not matter. Yet id love to say it does. Especially if it is a first offense.

ModUlanopo3 votes

Yet itd be out of context. To you context may not matter.

It would be more accurate to sat that context does not matter to Riot or the community. Provocation is not considered a valid excuse.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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Lets say one begins at the beginning of the track no prior offenses level 5 honor great player to play with. And the second player steals lets say the first players hat and the first player starts trying to get their hat back. Are both going to fall into the trap that the second guy set up or will the first in the pithole? And what will be considered fair in this case?

Depends on his level of response. You are allowed to have a bad day now and again, and if it is his only game in a while, maybe not. And if he adds to the problem by flaming back, yea, it is fair. He should have just muted.

Euro Crem1 votes

Lets propose that that player has played over 5000 games and only 1 game of flaming 1 person gets him reported. Data wise that is 0.02% of his games and the other 99.08% are disregarded. (With outliers here and there over the span of 4 years, lets say 90% of good games with most outliers being seasons behind)is that just?

Xidphel1 votes

It doesn't exist.

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