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Ranked, why?

one boosted bird··18 votes·1,647 views

You know, I know this gets said a lot, but why is it in ranked, specifically when you are in promos, why are you so much more likely to get afks, rage quitters, trolls and feeders? Last two games, first one bot lane had a huge arguement that resulted in our support (blitz) afking and our adc (varus) to intentionally feed. He didnt want to play anymore and made it even worse when decided not to surrender. If riot is so strict about this toxicity being punished, then why is it so prevalent?

My last game, support picked Lee for support and built all damage after losing lane. Ezreal was raging and flaming the support, all the while me and the jungler had 6 kills and 0 deaths between the two of us, we were doing well, i pinged whenever mid would roam and even ping bot to back off, and they would dive in. i can win 5-6 games in a row, then just straight up lose a series to games like this. I know i still make mistakes, quite often but I try to learn from them, This same thing happened last season when I was in my gold promos. I was in my promos for gold no less then 5 times. lost every series. I didnt get an afk or a feeder every game, sometimes you just lose, which I am okay with, but it just always seems to be that whenever its down to the last game, or when it matters the most, the worst tends to happen and it doesnt matter how well you play, you cant carry a team that doesn't want to win. I understand that i made mistakes that last game i was in, i ended like 5/2/2. It just seems so much worse because it feels like the tiniest of my mistakes are so much more impactful because of the bad play by the other lanes.

Ugh. Tilted.

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High51 votes

Riot would have to set a floor for acceptable play. They didn't want to support the meta for 5 years. We're a long way from stronger punishments in ranked for afks and trolls.

ThreeSP33d1 votes

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Punishments in ranked really need to be stronger; it has to have powerful deterrent value.

They should suspend people from ranked and take away their ability to get IP for a week or two. The trolls in bronze have no where to go and nothing to lose. There are a lot of people in Bronze who can't get out because crap like this happens constantly.

Penns6 votes

I guess its because in promos you get people with a lower win rate or lower stats on your team, which are more likely to be trolls or intentional feeders.

one boosted bird5 votes

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I guess its because in promos you get people with a lower win rate or lower stats on your team, which are more likely to be trolls or intentional feeders.

ugh if thats true. then riot needs to fix that, because thats just garbage.

swordartonlineyi6 votes

Seriously man, I get where ur coming from. I have been there. The comment I made is both valid and your solution. Look at my match history for proof. If you play as 5 man group what's the odds of you getting a pile of trash on your team?? 0. He will be on the other team. Give it a try. Tell me I'm wrong.

Zeurth1 votes

"a pile of trash on your team??" I think you're one of the issues.

The Unbangable4 votes

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"a pile of trash on your team??" I think you're one of the issues.

If you feed, flame, or rage quit... Yes. You are a pile of trash, that's why Rito bans you.

Zeurth2 votes

No, you're just a person with issues. Not sure why being toxic to toxic players is okay.

Tesserzact1 votes

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Seriously man, I get where ur coming from. I have been there. The comment I made is both valid and your solution. Look at my match history for proof. If you play as 5 man group what's the odds of you getting a pile of trash on your team?? 0. He will be on the other team. Give it a try. Tell me I'm wrong.

You'll play against another 5 man team who might actually be playing as friends with communication instead of people playing together to prevent trolls.

ombriel1 votes

I would wait an extra 2-3minutes in queue if it meant only getting players who were also in the same Tier # promo series as me.

Robbit Mang5 votes

took me 8 total series attempts to get to gold 5 this year, took me one total last year

i felt very tilted almost losting my fifth series out of silver 1.

I hate ranked in general pm

High52 votes

Yes

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Robbit Mang,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K0xIGKPp,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-02-06T03:36:37.240+0000)

took me 8 total series attempts to get to gold 5 this year, took me one total last year

i felt very tilted almost losting my fifth series out of silver 1.

I hate ranked in general pm

How many times did the boosters get you losses by throwing the game S1-2? Just curious if the numbers changed. I lost out of gold from the horde of them at the end of the season 4 (which I had mostly not played at all until then).

Robbit Mang1 votes

Honestly I can't really tell you. Last season when I was in silver 1 I was playing against actual silver players who I was better than. This year everyone in silver 1 was mid plat to high gold last season so I actually had some difficulty climbing. Just matchmaking I guess

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Robbit Mang,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=K0xIGKPp,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2016-02-07T16:11:42.815+0000)

Honestly I can't really tell you. Last season when I was in silver 1 I was playing against actual silver players who I was better than. This year everyone in silver 1 was mid plat to high gold last season so I actually had some difficulty climbing. Just matchmaking I guess

Even if you're better than other players, you need to have some picks that go well in order to get gold or otherwise disrupt the enemy team.

Robbit Mang1 votes

tbh i wasnt really trying so i just spammed malzahar and had a 95% winrate in silver lol, once i got to like gold 3 my wr dropped down to like 70% but that shit is so god damn relaxing

swordartonlineyi3 votes

There is a magic solution to this problem. Play as a 4 or 5 man team.

Yxgl222HaX2 votes

Friends? who has time for that when your'e to busy getting elo. For real though most of my irl friends that play this are low bronze or low silver though and playing with randoms just isnt the same so i always solo ranked for the most part. I prefered keeping ranked 5's and solo que seperate that was more fun for me. Then i could play ranked with my friends and if they sucked it diddnt matter seeing as it diddnt affect my actual ranking. now if i que up with 2 low bronze i lose my solo que ranking if i dont get fed in the first 15 mins to carry. Seeing as now the first 15 minutes of the game are basically the most important. Welcome to season 6 folks

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

IDK why you got downvoted. This works well in low elo.

DeloricVI3 votes

Riot should definitely have a tier of Ranked Play bans. Seriously, if you're toxic enough, have enough afk's, or just end up doing stupid shit like this very often, ban them from ranked for a week or so. I get having a bad game; I'm talking, when this guy goes 3 games, feeds, gets reported in every game... yeah, ban him from ranked for a while. Not because he sucks, but because ranked is the 1 place that you really do not need a perfectly good 5v5 turn into a 2v8 because your team is attacking you, afk'ing or intentionally feeding.

And also, this could encourage Riot to use longer ban times, which could possibly help some people who are tilting from losing too much elo.

But that's all idle speculation, I guess.

mason water2 votes

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Riot should definitely have a tier of Ranked Play bans. Seriously, if you're toxic enough, have enough afk's, or just end up doing stupid shit like this very often, ban them from ranked for a week or so. I get having a bad game; I'm talking, when this guy goes 3 games, feeds, gets reported in every game... yeah, ban him from ranked for a while. Not because he sucks, but because ranked is the 1 place that you really do not need a perfectly good 5v5 turn into a 2v8 because your team is attacking you, afk'ing or intentionally feeding.

And also, this could encourage Riot to use longer ban times, which could possibly help some people who are tilting from losing too much elo.

But that's all idle speculation, I guess.

except no one ever reports people because they think it does nothing. im starting to not bother reporting afks and feeders and trolls because ive never, ever, EVER. seen any evidence of anything ever happening to people i report that clearly deserve it.

Gangwolff1 votes

I'm reporting you for being correct.

High52 votes

I don't play ranked because of afks. Promos are a lesser problem that gets exasperated by afks.

The best problem is that Riot expects every player to reinvent the wheel. When they reinvent a square are wheel and some tells them how shitty their square wheel is, that person gets punished.

Solution, mute everyone and play norms. Enjoy the good games, move on from the rest. Complaining will not affect the basics of the game I.e. Promos and afks.

NichtHurz2 votes

Muting people in normals just doesn't feel right to me. If they just flame and write bullshit, sure I'll mute them, but especially when playing normals I find it enjoyable to talk to those people who really just want to have fun and who are nice. Meeting those people from game to game makes the bad games matter way less for me.

KING ATTILA1 votes

They should make it to where if evidence of legitimate trolling are clear, then offenders would be banned from ranked for a long time. Or just perma ban since they clearly don't care about winning anyway.

Only Play Darius1 votes

I could have sworn they said they were going to change promos to best 1/2 instead of best 2/3

Left Hook Larry1 votes

Riot does it on purpose to make it extra harder to climb

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