My Permanent Ban and the Logical Fallacy of Permanent Bans

Probably Syndra·3/8/2016, 5:44:22 PM·2 votes·1,116 views

When I hear about permanent bans, the people who suffer from them (1) say things that are so abnormally obscene that the person could be mistaken for a sociopath, (2) feed intentionally or AFK after not getting their way, and/or (3) grief fellow teammates by purposely blocking them from getting creeps/objectives OR ignoring team fights on purpose. While I'm aware that I do use vulgar language when in the heat of the competitive spirit of the game, the vulgar language I use is usually talking to myself about enemy teammates like "Oh shit, what a retarded malphite." This can be seen in my chat log that was included in my permanent ban. The only things within my chat log that I should be held accountable was for yelling at my teammate for purposely staying away from us and ignoring us because he didn't get his way on a call that was made earlier in the match, and for saying "cya nerd." YES. I'm aware retaliation isn't acceptable, but is my retaliating truly enough for an irrevocable PERMANENT BAN? @LYTE himself said that they were planning on doing a permanent chat restriction for VERBALLY toxic players, so why not have that done? My AFK record is flawless. My feeding/griefing record is flawless. The most I have ever done is retaliate because of another player being toxic. I am an educator in the upper level Biology courses - I'm sure I wouldn't be allowed near the public if I was truly some monstrous fool who causes people stress and make them hate their lives. I understand the banning system, but players who are optimal for their team, who play as a team, should be sought after, not scared away. After any time where I'm ever rude to a player (which means they were INITIALLY rude) I always compliment them towards the end and tell the team to just focus and we can win. This is an ONLINE, COMPETITIVE, game. There was definitely no reason for myself to get a permanent ban over verbal discrepancies that are honestly minor in the grand scheme of toxic behaviors.

Shortened Recap: Permanent bans should be for players who go beyond retaliation, and (1) make life threats, (2) grief, (3) feed, or (4) afk, as a result of their frustration. I have never done any of the above, and I have only retaliated in a generally minor/moderate way in comparison to people who actually have issues and need to step away from their computer due to their lack of logic. I expect no lift on the permanent ban, but I definitely would like to point out to Riot how pointless, idiotic, and unnecessary it is when there could be a lot of alternative methods to deal with certain behaviors. I'm just gonna go on my alternate account now - you guys sure got me. lol....

13 Comments

Deep Terror Nami3/8/2016, 5:52:01 PM4 votes

The only things within my chat log that I should be held accountable

Actually, you are accountable for all your actions. Nobody else is making you do or say anything except you. Post your chat logs?

CooL Ice Tea3/8/2016, 5:47:03 PM4 votes

for players who go beyond retaliation, and (1) make life threats, (2) grief, (3) feed, or (4) afk, as a result of their frustration. I have never done any of the above

and thats why you call for this.

People who wish cancer or that parents die would not even call for banns in this case. Its like "i should only be allowed to be banned for things i dont do !!!"

TeemoJenkins3/8/2016, 5:47:28 PM3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Probably Syndra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JEYfwotQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-03-08T17:44:22.981+0000) I'm just gonna go on my alternate account now - you guys sure got me. lol....

Yes, they did get you, as a permanent ban on one account... leads you to another. So they get their pound of flesh banning one, but still keep you as a user. Win win for a PR and profitability stand point. You sure showed them!

Pharoh3/8/2016, 6:10:26 PM3 votes

Where's the chat logs? You claim to have only retaliated but that retaliation could have included death threats or homophobic insults, which I believe shouldn't be tolerated. If you're going to complain about your ban, at least have the confidence in your chat logs to prove to us that whatever you may have said may not consititute a permanent ban.

Astôlfo3/8/2016, 8:40:57 PM1 votes

okay, cool, bye. didn't bother reading your post because nothing in there would've been relevant

FrankerX3/8/2016, 5:50:35 PM1 votes

it doesnt hurt to press enter every few sentences to

make it easier to read.

Malhammers3/8/2016, 5:57:31 PM1 votes

I agree with OP...I have never been punished in the game...but I do think the idea of permanent bans are ludicrous. They should be for SEVERE cases ONLY. But to just outright ban for flaming makes no sense to me. If this game wants to be considered a "sport", people only get "banned" from "sports" for cheating...never will you hear an NBA player for getting banned for saying "you suck cock" or "I hope you never play basketball again you troll". That would be laughable.

XerShade3/8/2016, 6:21:12 PM1 votes

Riot says you're gone, you're gone. Says right in the TOS you agree too. They can perma-ban you for whatever the f**k they want, no reasons needed.