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If you get banned for THIS, what CAN you say?

ranyhin2··9 votes·3,635 views

So a troll actively and openly states he/she is feeding at 3 minutes. Opposing team laughs at us and flames us. This is how my side went, and I was banned for it. If this is the level of what it takes to get a ban, then I might as well perma-quit this game now and leave it to the kiddies to play so that they may continue to uplift each other on the rift without me. Before I do that, I want to know what y'all think.

Behold the conversation below:

Game 1 In-Game ranyhin2: :/ ranyhin2: reported ranyhin2: if you didnt care ranyhin2: you wouldnt still be here ranyhin2: reporting ranyhin2: enjoy the ban ranyhin2: yup iwas banned for that ranyhin2: n my other ranyhin2: literally said she was feeding til the game ends ranyhin2: so report ranyhin2: when she says she is feeding til game ends? ranyhin2: uh yes? ranyhin2: /all ranyhin2: ok so yall dont want to report irelia for actively and openly trolling. cool ranyhin2: i hope it happens to all of you soon ranyhin2: you're an idiot ranyhin2: riot just needs to perma ban people who do this openly ranyhin2: lol ranyhin2: 14/1 top lane ranyhin2: sucks, trolls top afterwards, then says no to surrender ranyhin2: gotta love it ranyhin2: ^ ranyhin2: we didnt flame bfore int ranyhin2: ^ ranyhin2: do you tho ranyhin2: lol you really are an idiot ranyhin2: lol ranyhin2: not tilted tho

24 Comments

MagicFlyingLlama12 votes

You can say almost everything.

What you got banned for was flaming from start to finish in truly pathetic fashion. Pretty high bar, really.

You dont get keyword banned, this is not bloody club penguin. Punishments are for intent, and your intent was harassment.

ranyhin22 votes

I see. Well if this is the state of what league has come to and what y'all honestly think is acceptable for a ban, then I'll just leave now . Yall have fun I'm done with this trash community and this game. Thanks for the input though.

rujitra4 votes

If you're unwilling to be a decent teammate, then yes, please leave.

BeatleZzz2 votes

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I see. Well if this is the state of what league has come to and what y'all honestly think is acceptable for a ban, then I'll just leave now . Yall have fun I'm done with this trash community and this game. Thanks for the input though.

Why are you advertising on forums that you're quitting? Just leave and find a new game to play.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

We dont need raging trash, bye.

This is no different from what LoL has always been. People who have meltdowns and ruin games get ejected so nobody else has to see them flailing and screeching. Anyone who cant take responsibility for their actions or control themselves is a liability.

ı Sona ı8 votes

{quoted}

You can say almost everything.

What you got banned for was flaming from start to finish in truly pathetic fashion. Pretty high bar, really.

You dont get keyword banned, this is not bloody club penguin. Punishments are for intent, and your intent was harassment.

Mm, I have to disagree with you a bit here.

Sounds like someone was actively and openly feeding lanes in an attempt to make the game be lost, and essentially report baiting the whole way. There has been an influx of this with the recent ban/chat restrictions, which has caused many players to say/make posts along the lines of "since its ok to ruin people games, I guess i'll make/buy another account just to do that." Thus, they bait more players into quote unquote "flaming" them so they can report and get as many as they can punished by gaming the report system against otherwise docile players.

The punishment was truly because of calling people an idiot after obviously a series of prior punishments that escalated here. However the issue most complained about is that the escalation is not comparable to the de-escalation. Where a player goes from calling their teammate multiple swear words in a game and ends up with a chat restriction a couple of times, then not swearing at all but kind of badgering teammates with waves and waves of text and ends up with a 14 day ban, then ends up in a game with a player feeding on purpose to bait out any response they can to get as many people in trouble, and even though they had done so well and tried so hard to be a quote unquote "reformed" player this report baiter perfectly went out of their way to get the tiniest response out of them by getting them to call a teammate an idiot or something, and thus a permanent ban is issued.

It is not an easily fixed system, but if we do not at least admit there are ways to abuse the system to pointedly get others in trouble then all we do is further victimize the victims.

TrulyBland1 votes

I don't really see what those people do as abusing the system, and much more as one specific way of being an asshole. At most I'd use the word "exploit". At the end of the day the behaviour these people try to provoke is still the kind of behaviour Riot is trying to deter and punish, and holding people accountable for actions even if they were provoked into them (assuming they weren't tricked or coerced) is not a flaw in the system.

So even though it is absolutely despicable to go around and specifically try to get people in trouble, I don't see any part of the punishment system being used in a way that wasn't intended. The only thing that needs fixing is how quickly those people themselves are caught by the system so that they cannot spread as much toxicity as they do. After all, preventing toxicity from spreading - or at the very least inhibiting the "growth" - was the original idea.

Zombie Gerbil5 votes

Nothing that can be deemed offensive or harassment. Because retaliating doesn't do anything or accomplish anything. Nor does asking for report do anything, because one report counts as 9. The main point of this game is to play it. If someone is ruining for you, flaming or harassing you, then you need to mute them and report them after the game. The chat is meant to be used for communicating or having appropriate fun, anything that isn't against the policy.

Retaliating is just as bad as initiating it. Because any sustaining toxicity is a bad influence and experience. That's why Riot doesn't tolerate it. So you say nothing and act against it by reporting them.

Phieldworker4 votes

You spammed and harassed all game. Play the game stop chatting

Strawberrycocoa4 votes

In general, Riot doesn't give a shit who started it. They expect and demand that you just clam up and don't contribute to it by chiming in on the griefing.

rujitra3 votes

It's pretty simple - you can't spend the entire game flaming or harassing people ever. It doesn't matter what you think they're violating the rules.

Vreivai3 votes

You could not use reporting as a threat for the purpose of harassment.

Trolling Or Fun3 votes

Calling people idiots , suckers , trolls even they are but you are not the judje to criticize them!This judje belong to system who is 100% fair! Also you asking calling threatenig reports who is punishable offence by it self! Even if they feed you have no right to threat them even if they come to your house and steal your belongs if u act like police and kill them u go to jail! System is absolute fair like USA police! You ban is accurate 100% because you tilted and with insults u try provocate others! Thnx USA polic... erm i mean RIOT for pure blessed Justice:P

FenjaminBranklen2 votes

This isn't toxicity.

This entire community needs some perspective. Go on a random chan board, 9gag and the pre google buyout youtube comments section. That's real toxicity. The things the league community call toxicity is truly laughable to other communities, which is why the community is so toxic compared to other communities. They scream "ban him" at the drop of a hat.

It seems paradoxical, but, the stricter community rules are, the more toxic the community in general. Look at soviet russia. Very strict laws, very toxic society. Same with Nazi germany. Very strict laws, very toxic society.

Xidphel3 votes

"Some places are worst so this isn't toxic."

Yeah, no.

Telephone Booth1 votes

{quoted}

This isn't toxicity.

This entire community needs some perspective. Go on a random chan board, 9gag and the pre google buyout youtube comments section. That's real toxicity. The things the league community call toxicity is truly laughable to other communities, which is why the community is so toxic compared to other communities. They scream "ban him" at the drop of a hat.

It seems paradoxical, but, the stricter community rules are, the more toxic the community in general. Look at soviet russia. Very strict laws, very toxic society. Same with Nazi germany. Very strict laws, very toxic society.

The things league players refer to as toxicity, is what Riot considers toxicity. Why? Because we are trying to tell people why they got banned. Not give our personal opinions on societal laws and interactions and free speech shit. Jesus christ man. I think their rules are bullshit. But i will explain WHY they got banned. Doesnt mean everyone here agrees with it. We are trying to help people protect their accounts, not give moral lectures and history lessons on civilizations in the real world.

Always Broken2 votes

Don't type in league of legends. Rule #1 . Riot has no idea what real toxicity is. and saying "bad words" that instantly get you banned is a ridiculously stupid system. The only people getting banned are those that want to trash talk other people because of their toxic actions.. Riot endorses toxicity. but not if its a bad word.

Terchio2 votes

Devil's advocate here.

I'm pretty sure I see the game in question here. Let me throw out some statistics from the game.

Irelia with 16 deaths in 20 minutes. Very consistent deaths, apparently not playing particularly safe.

What else do I see, though?

Irelia has 3 kills and 5 assists, 8 kill participation out of 15 total on team. Enemy Top laner is Renekton, Jungle is Nidalee, both strong early game kill champs.

Early kills go as follows: Renek fumble/death at 2 minutes Nidalee death at 3 minutes Irelia/Renek kill trade Renek death at 6 minutes Irelia kills Nidalee in mid at 7 minutes Renek kills Irelia as a trade at 7 minutes Katarina kills Irelia at 8 minutes, maybe an int dive. hard to tell without context. Ezreal kills Irelia at 9 minutes

So, here's the basic game:

Irelia has a bad start early, going quickly 0-2. She somehow makes it up to 2-4, regardless, though the jungle has been lurking. A couple ganks go sour (including the 2-4 one), and the rest of the game is spent teamfighting, pretty much. with no real tank on the team. With a poke-heavy comp (Ashe, Ahri, Brand, Pyke, Irelia), she's the front line for every teamfight, and that spells disaster for Irelia against a very mobile enemy team that poses a heavy threat from very large distances, and from safety (Nidalee, Ezreal, Katarina, Nami, then Renekton as tank). If Irelia commits like Renekton commits, Katarina comes out and shreds everybody to pieces, often Irelia for having to commit so hard.

Basically, Irelia is between a rock and a hard place by team composition, and she actually decides to fight with the team instead of splitpush top and pray for squishies to feed themselves, and dies consistently for it.

This is not to say Irelia was playing well. However, after giving Renekton 6-1 early game (Pyke his only non-Irelia kill), Renekton spent the rest of his game teamfighting as well, and only 1 of his following 15 kills (21/2/4 Renekton) was Irelia. Yes it was early feed, yes Renekton got out of control for it, but that's exactly the goal for a toplaner to carry such a lead into squashing squishies.

My main shocker for the game is how an inting player managed to be the only one on the team to reach level 11, particularly when she clearly teamfought and/or inted basically all game.

TL;DR, This game is bad from the base up. Irelia was essentially destined to be fodder all game while others tried to squander whatever kills they could get.

And final note, this doesn't have to do with the context of the actual ban at all. However, this was a team game that was lost as a team, and when the team needed to come together, you focused on reporting your own ally with the enemy team rather than bringing anybody together. After that happened, you then got hounded by the enemy team for toxic behavior, and even defended that with insults. I don't know about bannable, tbh, but this is the behavior I despise the most from teammates.

disregardable1 votes

more toxic than anything I typed this week, and I feel like I was particularly toxic this week.

arguing with the support and whatnot.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Leave it for the kiddies? You think kids are nice and uplifting to eachother? Lmao. You got so much to learn.

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