Honor vs Toxicity.

MrKeopi·Mar 31, 2019·2 votes·2,037 views

Hey everyone! It's been a while since I've posted in the forums for league, but I think we really need to bring forth a call about the amount of trolling and toxicity and the lack of punishments for it. I've got two accounts sitting in low plat, two in silver/bronze, and this one is in Gold. I haven't in all my years of league been more shocked at the rapidly increasing amount of toxicity in the League of Legends community over the past 4 seasons.

As many people know chat restrictions go for the most part like this "10 games, 25 games, 50 games, 100 games, Suspension, Perma-ban". Which this is nice and all, because the system for the most part detects toxicity in a game after that person was reported. But what about the people who flame without cursing and telling people "KYS, Drink bleach, Die IRL" without any regard to the system? From what I've seen between the ranks of Bronze to Plat, there are a very large amount of people who get a chat restriction for a game, then flame before or after the game because they know they cant in game. Because of this flame people start running Ghost Cleanse and running it down, or just intentionally feed others lanes because of the toxicity.

People who soft-int dont seem to get any kind of punishment and continue to throw games and lose intentionally pre-15. Other than Soft-Inters, hard inters have games in gold/plat where they are not just having a bad game but blame the jungler or another lane for them dying under enemy turret saying "Why wont jungle gank or why is the support top". Even when they have a vision score of 0 at 20 minutes and complain about not getting help. These people continue to do it over and over and when you look at their match history you just wonder why they keep playing, or what reason they do it.

There needs to be some sort of increase in punishment and reward for players who act with integrity. If you are Honor level 0 or 1 you will not get queued with Honor level 2 and above or something of the sort. Maybe if you've been punished recently you get placed in a different queue that prevents you from playing with non-punished players until you have been considered mostly reformed from your punishment. Doing something like this or more to protect players who wish to play the game seriously without toxicity and trolling.

12 Comments

GatekeeperTDSMar 31, 20192 votes

"10 games, 25 games, 50 games, 100 games, Suspension, Perma-ban".

No they do not go like this. Where did you get those middle two steps?

MrKeopiMar 31, 20191 votes

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No they do not go like this. Where did you get those middle two steps?

Because I've actually talked to Riot support, and tested it out on a smurf account. After a 10 game chat restrict, it increased to 25, after 25 it increased to 50 and then 100, riot support told me after 100 it was a suspension then perma-ban. This was from my understanding of the system pre-changes

GatekeeperTDSMar 31, 20191 votes

Nope. Show me those chat logs from Riot support. You're blatantly lying, and that's really sad.

rujitraMar 31, 20192 votes

How do you prove someone is “soft inting” and not just bad, making bad decisions, tired, distracted, or otherwise?

Furthermore, Riot will not make any sort of “prisoner’s island” by implementing different queues, restricting game modes, or otherwise. It’s all or nothing. Players either behave and have access to everything, or they will be punished up to a permanent ban.

Bring me my beltMar 31, 20191 votes

I have been chat restricted for indiviual games, but hard-inters people clearly trolling, it takes so long for those players to receive a penalty IMO. Almost every game I have played lately 3-4 people trolling, and in ranked I think that pretty bad when almost half of the lobby is there to ruin the game for everyone else. The game right now, someone/something annoys you just int, you'll likely get away with it

MrKeopiMar 31, 20191 votes

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How do you prove someone is “soft inting” and not just bad, making bad decisions, tired, distracted, or otherwise?

Furthermore, Riot will not make any sort of “prisoner’s island” by implementing different queues, restricting game modes, or otherwise. It’s all or nothing. Players either behave and have access to everything, or they will be punished up to a permanent ban.

The soft-inting comes from people who I watch refuse to play their lanes correctly, and instead like a recent game I had, a Karthus support who spent more time walking in river, then going mid dying to the enemy and then proceeding to walk back into the river and basically guard the river. I know the feeling of tired/distracted making bad decisions. I've made my share of them in fact, but the people who throw the game without actually trying to play the game, and say give up free kills and then just sit and wait until the game is over without trying are who i believe are "Soft-inters". I've had too many games where a Duo Queue game is nowhere close to enough when you have to play with an inting person, somebody who has just given up and somebody who took it a step farther and just afk'd only to come back at 15 or 20 minutes to FF so they can "go next".

ShinikaruMar 31, 20191 votes

Honestly all you need to do is report and convince your other teammates to report. Their system will do the rest. It's unforgiving.

Fork New EnglandMar 31, 20192 votes

Inherent problem here, and I know it for a fact because I got a chat-restriction for it, literally got told as much by a Riot support response: "Suggesting people should report someone else is not very sportsmanlike" ~ I was saying it for someone that went 0-4 in lane then was spamming spells AFK in spawn... so Riot & their system literally don't care about what the other person is doing, you're not allowed to say "report them".

Pretty ridiculous ain't it?

Bring me my beltMar 31, 20191 votes

asking people to report your teammate can get you penalized, trust me on that one D: