Just wondering.I've met a lot of smurfs this week who were obviously high plat-diamond skilled,made themselves a smurf just so they can flame/troll in games.They even admit it usually since there is nothing they will lose.Their main account stays untouched which is sad.
Hyperiön2 votesThey ban the account, and then they just make a new one. Nothing they can 100% do to stop it, except maybe to cap the number of accounts you can make per IP address.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesMaybe make a rule where if you have 3 smurfs banned, then they ban your main too.
Hyperiön1 votesI doubt it would still change anything. If they paid lots of money, than yeah, but if they just played and never bought anything, i don't see it being a huge issue to deal with, because they would just be able to get right back there again on a new account.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesThey probably spent time getting their main up to diamond.
They might not care if a bronze 5 smurf acc gets banned but I'm sure they'd be mad if their diamond acc with all the legacy skins and victory skins and famous name (if they're a streamer) gets banned.
Weathered2 votesI've (kinda) done this. I didn't act toxic, actually the opposite, but I made a fresh account to see what it was like. My normals MMR is ~1850, so it was a huge change.
It's eerily silent. Most of the games lvls 1-20 are half people grinding for a lvl 30 account, a quarter bots, and a quarter new players. Most of the smurfs just don't say anything, they are on autopilot just winning games to level the account. Bots will occasionally say things like "wtf" or "no/yes", but obviously don't talk much.
What amazed me is newer players don't say anything either. I have to start the conversation if I'm trying to help someone out. Like, really simple stuff like running back to base instead of hitting B or not realizing how an item works. They will just keep going until someone notices and tries to help.
It's almost creepy.
Morality Coach2 votesRolling Bronzies is fun, and no they won't be taking it out of the game, lol.
If you don't like getting rolled defend yourself.
BigKittenPaws1 votes[{quoted}](name=Morality Coach,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GuWiQINn,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-10-31T20:38:41.466+0000)
Rolling Bronzies is fun, and no they won't be taking it out of the game, lol.
If you don't like getting rolled defend yourself.
Nobody said anything about rolling.It helps a lot if you can understand what you read baby :D
Morality Coach1 votesAn EU crying about getting rolled in a low elo game and I'm the baby? Do babies do something else in your broke euro hell hole?
LOL
BigKittenPaws1 votes[{quoted}](name=Morality Coach,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GuWiQINn,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-11-01T18:06:25.322+0000)
An EU crying about getting rolled in a low elo game and I'm the baby? Do babies do something else in your broke euro hell hole?
LOL
Nobody said anything about getting rolled.Nor low elo games. If you want me to,I can link some good dictionaries.They might help with your problem of not understanding written text. ^^
MUSHROOM MIDGET2 votesits not against the rules. and if it was how would you possibly prove it? just ban everyone who is better than you?
BigKittenPaws2 votes[{quoted}](name=MUSHROOM MIDGET,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GuWiQINn,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-10-31T23:18:34.767+0000)
its not against the rules. and if it was how would you possibly prove it? just ban everyone who is better than you?
Flaming and trolling is not against the rules?since when?
MUSHROOM MIDGET2 votessmurfing is not against the rules. their smurf accounts will get banned if they flame and troll. that is the punishment. they arent going to investigate every account and try to figure out which other accounts the person might play so they can punish all of them. that is ridiculous.
BigKittenPaws1 votes[{quoted}](name=MUSHROOM MIDGET,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GuWiQINn,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-11-01T09:11:53.269+0000)
smurfing is not against the rules. their smurf accounts will get banned if they flame and troll. that is the punishment. they arent going to investigate every account and try to figure out which other accounts the person might play so they can punish all of them. that is ridiculous.
There are algorithms that can do that,no need for people to investigate every toxic account.Just how they caught eloboosters.I.e. computers and every network gear(routers,phones) do have unique MAC addresses so you know which accounts are being played from the same PC.
MUSHROOM MIDGET2 votesfamily members, internet cafe's, college dorms, etc
xyzoom1 votessmurfing - buy XP boost, IP boost -> revenue .
a smurf just so they can flame/troll in games.They even admit it usually since there is nothing they will lose.Their main account stays untouched which is sad.
for this toxic player, smurf or no , report them, move on . helping riot getting another revenue (they not gonna stop make another account)- smurf --> win ->trigger fun + lower queue time.
from my knowledge. toxic exist in all tier,--> challenger have it, famous one getting banned , and we all knew it.
Elisheva1 votesUnless they make a rule that says flat out "no creating alternate accounts," this will be impossible. Hell... Even if they made that rule, it wouldn't stop anyone.
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesIf someone has 3 smurfs banned, then their main gets banned too. most of them don't care about smurf accs but don't want their main banned.
notice me Sin pi1 votesbut how will riot be able to tell if multiple accounts are owned by the same person (not same household, not college campus, etc.)?
XinZhao2WinNhao1 votesSame algorithm they use for checking if someone is boosted or if someone is acc sharing.
They were able to tell for Tyler 1
CrazyBear19871 votesNothing they can do that will stop the behavior from continuing. Currently they can only remove the account, but it's the player that can remake and troll that's the problem.
Here is hoping that the new client will be able to ban not only the account, but also lock out the user from logging in for the next 1-2 hours.
That way it does't matter if they other accounts, if they are caught and banned, the client is disabled for awhile. allowing 1-3 games of peace without them.
but I don't work for Riot so I don't know XD
gintsu1 votesWhile smurfing just to win is bad I personally admit to smurfing when trying to teach a new player or a friend the game. The main reason I do it on another account is that it would be less fair having my runes and mysteries at a low level with a friend and it's hard to teach them about things like warding and the effects in a bot game when trying to go into detail bot games can only teach so much.
Plus when someone is new they enjoy playing with their friends obliviously I don't look at smurfing as a whole to be a bad thing but doing so to just screw with other players is.
There are many reasons players smurf aside the reason I stated previously, I mostly just bring friends into arams as it's the least toxic mode and the mode I personally have the most fun in. But they don't really unlock that until level 6.
I have known people who have made new accounts simply to learn a new roll such as creating and account on only going support or jungle/etc. to learn a roll without getting snowballed by players at their own level and learning nothing.
There are many ways to look at smurfing but I can tell you there is a large amount of players that do it for no other reason but to feel good about beating lower level players or to just piss people off on another account.
I'm not sure what you would do as far as punishment for this because you would also have to punish those who do so for none toxic reasons. If they player isn't in chat being a jerk etc. It's rather hard to tell why they are doing it in the first place.
I will end on this note while not in league specifically I have tried playing other games and had a hard time learning because other players would make new accounts just to make it harder for newer players on purpose.
BigKittenPaws1 votesWhile smurfing just to win is bad I personally admit to smurfing when trying to teach a new player or a friend the game. The main reason I do it on another account is that it would be less fair having my runes and mysteries at a low level with a friend and it's hard to teach them about things like warding and the effects in a bot game when trying to go into detail bot games can only teach so much.
Plus when someone is new they enjoy playing with their friends obliviously I don't look at smurfing as a whole to be a bad thing but doing so to just screw with other players is.
There are many reasons players smurf aside the reason I stated previously, I mostly just bring friends into arams as it's the least toxic mode and the mode I personally have the most fun in. But they don't really unlock that until level 6.
I have known people who have made new accounts simply to learn a new roll such as creating and account on only going support or jungle/etc. to learn a roll without getting snowballed by players at their own level and learning nothing.
There are many ways to look at smurfing but I can tell you there is a large amount of players that do it for no other reason but to feel good about beating lower level players or to just piss people off on another account.
I'm not sure what you would do as far as punishment for this because you would also have to punish those who do so for none toxic reasons. If they player isn't in chat being a jerk etc. It's rather hard to tell why they are doing it in the first place.
I will end on this note while not in league specifically I have tried playing other games and had a hard time learning because other players would make new accounts just to make it harder for newer players on purpose.
Seriously guys,how hard can it be to read and understand 3 sentences? Nobody said anything about these things.The topic is: Flaming,Intentionally feeding,just generally making sure your team loses without any care for punishments because "Just a smurf acc".
I am really out of ideas how to make it more simple.
Example: Player loses a game.Gets angry. Wants to vent out his frustration but knows if he does that he gets punished. He goes on a smurf account and starts flaming people.Then starts running into the enemy nexus turret. He can do that,because even if he gets punished,his main account stays untouched.